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refmon
07/07/17 10:10:45 PM
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Boring ass forced jokes, boring ass action, boring ass characters, boring ass villains

Boring Ass Movies
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Mernardi
07/07/17 10:12:07 PM
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Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.
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1NfamousACE_2
07/07/17 10:12:53 PM
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Mernardi posted...
Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.


Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was NO WHERE NEAR as good as Logan.
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lukabrosci
07/07/17 10:12:59 PM
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that should have been obvious, they still can't top the nolan trilogy
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Mernardi
07/07/17 10:13:28 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Mernardi posted...
Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.


Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was NO WHERE NEAR as good as Logan.

You're right; it was better.
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LightningAce11
07/07/17 10:17:35 PM
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Yeah, Logan's visceral brutality and emotion made me like the movie more than most superhero films.

I actually cared about the characters.
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Mernardi
07/07/17 10:18:01 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Mernardi posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Mernardi posted...
Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.


Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was NO WHERE NEAR as good as Logan.

You're right; it was better.


ha good one mate

I don't base my opinions on what the internet agrees on, so I thought Guardians 2 was better.
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WizardPowers
07/07/17 10:26:23 PM
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I think most of the internet would actually say GOTG because that's just more popular. People with good taste prefer logan
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Mernardi
07/07/17 10:35:29 PM
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WizardPowers posted...
I think most of the internet would actually say GOTG because that's just more popular. People with good taste prefer logan

No...it's actually the reverse (not talking about good taste).

Guardians 2 got decent ratings so everyone thought it sucked and skipped it. Logan got stellar ratings (which I personally think is overblown tbh) which made people think it was the perfect movie.

It was good, but only x-23 was great. The rest of the cast was just okay.
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OlorinTheOtaku
07/08/17 5:17:01 PM
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I wouldn't actually compare the 2. Logan didn't exactly feel like a "Super hero movie" it felt more like an actual movie that just happened to have super hero themes. It showed us what super powers & such would actually be like IRL, were as MCU movies show use what a comic book would look like as a live action movie.

Logan kind of reminded me of "Kick Ass" but without the comedy. It had that same feel of "what if super heroes actually existed".
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EverDownward
07/08/17 5:33:37 PM
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Who knew making a film involving superheroes instead of a popcorn flick would make it better than most superhero popcorn flicks?

DISCLAIMER: Unbreakable was bad.
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Smashingpmkns
07/08/17 5:36:54 PM
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Logan was amazing. Had a lot on the line and really exceeded expectations. Unfair to compare it to the MCU movies imo though.

Spidey and GotG2 were both amazing.
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Raikuro
07/08/17 5:39:08 PM
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how is clone logan considered even a decent villain. felt super lazy.
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muchdran
07/08/17 5:41:19 PM
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Logan was the best superhero movie ever.
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Offworlder1
07/08/17 5:42:00 PM
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I like both Logan and the MCU films.
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GameGodOfAll
07/08/17 5:46:40 PM
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Logan was like an 8.5
Guardians was like an 8
Wonder Woman was like a 6
Spidey was like an 8.75
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sylverlolol
07/08/17 5:52:25 PM
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Logan was good, but sheesh is it vastly overrated on here.
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GOATSLAYER
07/08/17 5:54:44 PM
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I feel like the MCU has finally become stale. But Logan wasn't mind blowing for me either. It's silly how adding in a little bit of gore made people act like its the best thing ever lol. It's a good movie but it didn't really do anything special or unique.
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GameGodOfAll
07/08/17 5:54:50 PM
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sylverlolol posted...
Logan was good, but sheesh is it vastly overrated on here.

It was the first actually good darker, gritter movie, which people have been starved for since TDK. Knew it'd get overrated, but it's still a good ass movie overall.
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prince_leo
07/08/17 5:57:11 PM
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I mean, really only IM 1 and Cap 2 are good films. the rest of the MCU, while various amounts of enjoyable, are pretty much just popcorn flicks
TDK, Logan, etc. happen to be genuinely good films as well as being superhero flicks
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CreekCo
07/08/17 6:19:07 PM
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Cap 2 is so good it's basically the best special feature segment on the Civil War special features.
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The X Dawg
07/08/17 6:36:38 PM
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Outside of GoTG, I think I actually hate the MCU. I mean the movies just aren't good after watching Logan, Deadpool, X-Men DoFP, etc.

Just something always seems to be missing from them. I mean I am excited for the new Thor, but eh. Well actually, Dr. Strange was good as well now that I think about it.
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Wagger_25
07/08/17 6:40:04 PM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
Logan was like an 8.5
Guardians was like an 8
Wonder Woman was like a 6
Spidey was like an 8.75




Wonder Woman was better then gotg
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GOATSLAYER
07/08/17 6:40:21 PM
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Wagger_25 posted...
GameGodOfAll posted...
Logan was like an 8.5
Guardians was like an 8
Wonder Woman was like a 6
Spidey was like an 8.75




Wonder Woman was better then gotg

It definitely wasn't
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fusespliff
07/08/17 6:47:45 PM
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The X Dawg posted...
Outside of GoTG, I think I actually hate the MCU. I mean the movies just aren't good after watching Logan, Deadpool, X-Men DoFP, etc.

Just something always seems to be missing from them. I mean I am excited for the new Thor, but eh. Well actually, Dr. Strange was good as well now that I think about it.


Speaking as someone who likes DoFP, I don't get how you can utter that name in the same sentence as Logan and Deadpool. Two of those are movies that the cast and crew were passionate about and it shows. The other was yet again a half assed adaptation with characters' actions and importance based on actor popularity instead of what makes sense for the character in that screwed up continuity they've got going.
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GameGodOfAll
07/08/17 6:50:16 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
Wagger_25 posted...
GameGodOfAll posted...
Logan was like an 8.5
Guardians was like an 8
Wonder Woman was like a 6
Spidey was like an 8.75




Wonder Woman was better then gotg

It definitely wasn't

Yeah Wonder Woman was just fine. Had some stuff I liked, some stuff I didn't. I didn't find any of the comedy funny, didn't like the slow down action and the overall story was bare bones. It was still easily the best DC movie yet. Guardians was pretty darn good with a cool Ego plot and some great moments like Yondu's escape. And Yondu alone was just full of great stuff. Some of the jokes didn't land, specifically early on "legendary turds", but by the end far more hit than missed. Very fun movie.
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The X Dawg
07/08/17 7:49:24 PM
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fusespliff posted...
The X Dawg posted...
Outside of GoTG, I think I actually hate the MCU. I mean the movies just aren't good after watching Logan, Deadpool, X-Men DoFP, etc.

Just something always seems to be missing from them. I mean I am excited for the new Thor, but eh. Well actually, Dr. Strange was good as well now that I think about it.


Speaking as someone who likes DoFP, I don't get how you can utter that name in the same sentence as Logan and Deadpool. Two of those are movies that the cast and crew were passionate about and it shows. The other was yet again a half assed adaptation with characters' actions and importance based on actor popularity instead of what makes sense for the character in that screwed up continuity they've got going.


I mean it is not a great movie by any means, but I actually gave a shit about what happened storyline wise more so than I have for any MCU movie. At best, it was an...eh...ok adaptation of the story.
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Kamiccolohan
07/08/17 8:00:56 PM
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Mernardi posted...
Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.

GotG was pretty shit-tier tbh...

I liked the God angle but there were waaay too many forced jokes and most of them weren't even funny. SMH was way funnier for sure, but the jokes won't work on a second viewing.

Rogue One was shit tier...

Disney is going down the toilet now man. Way too much propaganda is being forced into these films with things like ROgue One and Homecoming. it will only get worse.

Logan was amazing in every way.
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sylverlolol
07/08/17 9:01:05 PM
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Kamiccolohan posted...
Mernardi posted...
Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.

GotG was pretty shit-tier tbh...

I liked the God angle but there were waaay too many forced jokes and most of them weren't even funny. SMH was way funnier for sure, but the jokes won't work on a second viewing.

Rogue One was shit tier...

Disney is going down the toilet now man. Way too much propaganda is being forced into these films with things like ROgue One and Homecoming. it will only get worse.

Logan was amazing in every way.

what a bunch of shit opinions tbqh
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OlorinTheOtaku
07/09/17 8:02:37 PM
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@Kamiccolohan How could you say Rogue one was "Shit Tier"? I absolutely loved it, 1 of the best movies released in recent years. Then again I liked the Star wars prequals so I guess my opinion is invalid... Oh well.

For the record, I thought all the star wars movies were brilliant, can't wait for episode VIII.
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Kamiccolohan
07/09/17 8:14:24 PM
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OlorinTheOtaku posted...
@Kamiccolohan How could you say Rogue one was "Shit Tier"? I absolutely loved it, 1 of the best movies released in recent years. Then again I liked the Star wars prequals so I guess my opinion is invalid... Oh well.

For the record, I thought all the star wars movies were brilliant, can't wait for episode VIII.

Maybe I need to re-watch it, but I felt Ep 7 was better than RO.

It was just a boring film, with an uninteresting main cast. All the main characters were a bore. I cared not a single bit when they all died at the end.

The best part of it was entirely the Empire, and Darth Vader. Vader had the highlight scene at the end, as did CGI Princess and Tarkin, but especially Tarkin. He was great. The war scenes with the big Mechs were fine, but the rest of the film was lackluster. They even somehow managed to give Donnie Yen boring fight scenes.

Rogue One was just a big mess. Should have just made it a Darth Vader movie with his own major adventure after he turned to the dark side. Maybe a search for his children before he buried that attachment?
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Darmik
07/09/17 8:19:17 PM
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I wouldn't go that far but Logan is the best example as to why it's sometimes a good thing that Marvel/Disney doesn't have the rights to everything. They'd never make a movie like this.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/09/17 8:20:30 PM
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Rogue One was pretty meh tbh.

Also LOL at calling GotG shit tier. Thanks for telling me about your shitty opinions in the first sentence so I can skip over the rest of the post.
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Dragon239
07/09/17 8:22:02 PM
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Logan spoilers.

Raikuro posted...
how is clone logan considered even a decent villain. felt super lazy.

Do people say "clone logan" was himself a good villain?

He struck me as more of just a literal weapon, the same as any other bad guy has a gun, they had "a clone logan."
It served to highlight their inhumanity and callousness, that they did this weird cloning thing and then treated him as a mere attack dog used to hunt his "father" and the last of the mutants.
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ChromaticAngel
07/09/17 8:24:16 PM
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Mernardi posted...
Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.

Logan and Deadpool are better than anything MCU made for last 2 years.
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gafemaqs
07/09/17 8:26:02 PM
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Spiderman Homecoming is shit
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Mernardi
07/09/17 8:26:10 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Mernardi posted...
Logan was overrated. Both MCU movies were way better this year.

Logan and Deadpool are better than anything MCU made for last 2 years.

Lmao no
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ChromaticAngel
07/09/17 8:27:47 PM
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Dragon239 posted...
Logan spoilers.

Raikuro posted...
how is clone logan considered even a decent villain. felt super lazy.

Do people say "clone logan" was himself a good villain?

He struck me as more of just a literal weapon, the same as any other bad guy has a gun, they had "a clone logan."
It served to highlight their inhumanity and callousness, that they did this weird cloning thing and then treated him as a mere attack dog used to hunt his "father" and the last of the mutants.


"Clone logan" is literally a canon character. Weapon X. Or if you're looking for a numerical designation, he's the 10th attempt, and the 23rd attempt created X-23.
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Kamiccolohan
07/09/17 8:31:08 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Rogue One was pretty meh tbh.

Also LOL at calling GotG shit tier. Thanks for telling me about your shitty opinions in the first sentence so I can skip over the rest of the post.

I loved Guardians of the Galaxy 1. That's possibly my favorite MCU film. I loathed the sequel. I should've put GotG2 instead of GotG.

In case you try to say I'm changing it, look at my description of GotG right below where I say it's shit-tier. "God-angle". There was no god angle in the first one but there was in the 2nd one. Like I said, for that movie, it's like the writers tried turning the jokes up to a million, and it just didn't work for me like it did in the first one. most of the jokes weren't funny. That extended Groot scene at the very beginning when they're fighting that giant monster was probably meant to be funny, but I didn't even smirk once at all. Rocket was more annoying than a character you could sympathize with like in the first one. He was having outburstsfor seemingly no reason at all. The Gammora and blue girl scenes were almost as bad as the Martha scene from BvS. The blue girl literally tried blowing Gammora up with a machine gun, and then literally tried ramming into her with a fucking spaceship at full speed. And then Gamorra literally tried to murder her with one ofthe space ship's machine guns. And then they're BFFs five minutes later. Fuck that shit. That was BvS levels of cringe. "I wanted a SISTER!!!!!!!".... really? Is that why you tried to brutally murder her?. Fucking shit man. Just because I liked the first movie and felt it was great, doesn't mean I'm going to accept bullshit from the sequel.

Wonder Woman rekt GotG2 imo and will likely have a longer shelf-life than SM Homecoming too.
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ChromaticAngel
07/09/17 8:31:58 PM
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WW still made 9m this week despite Spiderman.
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OlorinTheOtaku
07/09/17 8:33:12 PM
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Personally I thought Rogue One's ending was quite moving. I never realised how much actually went into getting the Death star plans & I thought all the characters had great personality, especially K-2SO, I might even like him more then C-3P0.

I can understand @Kamiccolohan not thinking its the best movie ever, but calling it "Shit Tier" is a bit of a stretch.
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