Current Events > Stallone is writing Creed 2 currently and is hinting at bring back *Spoilers

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Ivan Drago. I hope he doesn't go on to try to make him the big end of the movie fight as some type of revenge story line.

Creed was such a good movie and going that way would just cheapen it I think.
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I think they were done with Rocky a long time ago.
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God, I loved Creed so much. I'm so hesitant about a sequel but at the end of the day, I hope it's good.
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If I cry, I cry.
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Drago's Son vs Adonis Creed
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...

I think they were done with Rocky a long time ago.

Good thing we've moved to Creed then, huh?
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Creed was absolutely incredible

Drago is currently a high ranking member of Putin's government and wants to use a bout with Creed as a sort of photo op.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Drago's Son vs Adonis Creed

Well, his Tweets did say "Here's a chance to stretch your imagination ... HISTORY WILL ALWAYS REPEAT ITSELF IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER, JUST GOT TO BE READY! ... Sins of the Father...." with a picture of Adonis and Ivan facing off.
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Didn't he end up respecting Rocky after the fight? So they semi ended on good terms I think. But I haven't seen IV in a long time so I don't remember exactly. But if I'm remembering correctly I'd imagine if that happened they'd be somewhat friendly or it could potentially lead to a coach vs coach rivalry between the two of them, Rocky having little Creed and Drago having someone else.
But I'm also curious if they'll continue or even acknowledge the brain damage thing from V or possibly touch on the steroid use. They could actually do some cool stuff with that if they did it right and wrote it well. It could be really dramatic.

I doubt we'll ever see Rocky fight again outside of just like training someone. He knows he's too old and Creed was all about passing the torch to a new generation.
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Gamer99z posted...

Didn't he end up respecting Rocky after the fight? So they semi ended on good terms I think.

i mean

he did kill Apollo Creed
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This is literally the first I've heard of their being such thing as a Creed movie.....and it's actually good?
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alexander37 posted...

This is literally the first I've heard of their being such thing as a Creed movie.....and it's actually good?

You being serious? It was amazing. It was paced well and the entire cast was great. I would highly recommend it.
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ZCheveyo posted...

alexander37 posted...

This is literally the first I've heard of their being such thing as a Creed movie.....and it's actually good?

You being serious? It was amazing. It was paced well and the entire cast was great. I would highly recommend it.

This. Great movie especially if you're a fan of the Rocky series.
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If they bring back anyone it should be Clubber
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alexander37 posted...

This is literally the first I've heard of their being such thing as a Creed movie.....and it's actually good?

Best Rocky movie
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voldothegr8 posted...

If they bring back anyone it should be Clubber

Mr. T doesn't look anywhere near as good as Dolph Lundgren still does. Lundgren still looks amazing at his age and could still be intimidating. Mr. T looks rough last time I saw him, plus there is no history between Adonis and Clubber....whereas Drago killed his father.
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If Drago is in it, he's helping Rocky (or Adonis). I could be very wrong, but that's my bet. Stallone loves a good redemption story and he's good friends with Dolph.
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I just don't see Rocky being on even remotely good terms with Clubber. I can't imagine any movie with Clubber / Clubber legacy that works out, and Stallone's stance on First Blood's story alterations makes me think it's highly unlikely that he'd have Clubber's son kill Rocky so it's probably best to just avoid Clubber altogether.

Plus, Drago was in Rocky 4, so they're already skipped passed Clubber in the timeline if this is the case.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

I just don't see Rocky being on even remotely good terms with Clubber. I can't imagine any movie with Clubber / Clubber legacy that works out, and Stallone's stance on First Blood's story alterations makes me think it's highly unlikely that he'd have Clubber's son kill Rocky so it's probably best to just avoid Clubber altogether.

I always got the sense that Clubber is just a nobody. He rose up pretty quickly, and got knocked out from the title pretty damn quickly.

I always imagined he just kinda faded into obscurity and never really affected their lives again.

Probably teaching a gym class in Omaha, Nebraska or some shit like that
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Doom_Art posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Didn't he end up respecting Rocky after the fight? So they semi ended on good terms I think.

i mean

he did kill Apollo Creed

Ya know that's a fair point >___>
Every Rocky antagonist has usually always been humbled and made respectable but they were all just arrogant or douches, not straight up killers.
Nvm I take it back >_>
But yeah it would make sense for Creed 2 to be vs Ivan's son since his lack of a dad was such a major character point for him.
I'm curious if the hostility between Rocky and Ivan will be there though. It might be a thing where Rocky and Ivan kinda came to terms with things but Creed wants to avenge his father or whatever. There's a few different ways they could go with it.
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only thing i didn't like about creed was (semi-important spoilers) rocky's cancer diagnosis and no mention of a possibly dying father to his actual son living in vancouver i think it was.

it makes sense not to bloat the movie with another character but again not very much when they focused so much on rocky and him in the last movie.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

only thing i didn't like about creed was (semi-important spoilers) rocky's cancer diagnosis and no mention of a possibly dying father to his actual son living in vancouver i think it was.

it makes sense not to bloat the movie with another character but again not very much when they focused so much on rocky and him in the last movie.

He briefly mentions his son in the movie and the way he does it's obviously trying to convey that they weren't particularly close, that his son is living his own life and there's hints of him almost feeling like he'd be an annoyance or burden to try to connect with him and such. It's touched on in Rocky 6 as well.
The entire point was he didn't want anyone to know about it and he didn't care. Like he said his career is in the past, his wife is dead, Paulie is dead, Apollo is dead, his kid has moved on and had his own life going on. He didn't really want to burden anyone with it or want anyone to know about it, he just felt like he'd lived his life and it was time for him to go, but Creed is the only thing that changed that. Made gave him a sense of purpose again or just feeling like someone even needed him anymore.
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Gamer99z posted...

Doom_Art posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Didn't he end up respecting Rocky after the fight? So they semi ended on good terms I think.

i mean

he did kill Apollo Creed

Ya know that's a fair point >___>
Every Rocky antagonist has usually always been humbled and made respectable but they were all just arrogant or douches, not straight up killers.
Nvm I take it back >_>
But yeah it would make sense for Creed 2 to be vs Ivan's son since his lack of a dad was such a major character point for him.
I'm curious if the hostility between Rocky and Ivan will be there though. It might be a thing where Rocky and Ivan kinda came to terms with things but Creed wants to avenge his father or whatever. There's a few different ways they could go with it.

I think it's probably more likely that Creed ends up killing Ivan's son and him (Creed) and Rocky have some kind of falling out as a result and then Rocky dies in some way that changes Creed to make him regret what he's done and give up boxing.
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Creed was what Rock Balboa failed to be

Doom_Art posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

I just don't see Rocky being on even remotely good terms with Clubber. I can't imagine any movie with Clubber / Clubber legacy that works out, and Stallone's stance on First Blood's story alterations makes me think it's highly unlikely that he'd have Clubber's son kill Rocky so it's probably best to just avoid Clubber altogether.

I always got the sense that Clubber is just a nobody. He rose up pretty quickly, and got knocked out from the title pretty damn quickly.

I always imagined he just kinda faded into obscurity and never really affected their lives again.

Probably teaching a gym class in Omaha, Nebraska or some shit like that

I mean, he only became champ because Rocky was distracted during the fight. Once Rocky came back he beat him pretty easily
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BlueBoy675 posted...

I mean, he only became champ because Rocky was distracted during the fight. Once Rocky came back he beat him pretty easily

Not even close. Him being distracted is why he lost so quickly, but he would have lost that fight anyway. It is flat out stated that Clubber had the strength to tear down Rocky's defenses, which were what made him such a successful boxer, which is why he had to learn an entirely new boxing style and retrain himself.
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That makes no sense. They aren't anywhere near the same weight class. How would the boxing commission approve a circus fight?
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ZCheveyo posted...

BlueBoy675 posted...

I mean, he only became champ because Rocky was distracted during the fight. Once Rocky came back he beat him pretty easily

Not even close. Him being distracted is why he lost so quickly, but he would have lost that fight anyway. It is flat out stated that Clubber had the strength to tear down Rocky's defenses, which were what made him such a successful boxer, which is why he had to learn an entirely new boxing style and retrain himself.

I guess yeah. It's been a while since I've seen Rocky 3
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BlueBoy675 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

I just don't see Rocky being on even remotely good terms with Clubber. I can't imagine any movie with Clubber / Clubber legacy that works out, and Stallone's stance on First Blood's story alterations makes me think it's highly unlikely that he'd have Clubber's son kill Rocky so it's probably best to just avoid Clubber altogether.

I always got the sense that Clubber is just a nobody. He rose up pretty quickly, and got knocked out from the title pretty damn quickly.

I always imagined he just kinda faded into obscurity and never really affected their lives again.

Probably teaching a gym class in Omaha, Nebraska or some shit like that

I mean, he only became champ because Rocky was distracted during the fight. Once Rocky came back he beat him pretty easily

Micky's death definitely impacted it but he would've lost either way imo. He had been having stacked fights that were easy wins for him for a long time at that point and his heart wasn't really in any of it anymore, he got comfortable as the movie puts it. Clubber was a legit powerhouse knocking people out left and right, he was hungry, determined, a bit younger (I think), and really had something to prove.
Rocky's whole thing is that he's able to take a beating, that and the fact that he himself had that same drive, determination, and nothing to lose is the only reason he beat Apollo, along with Apollo being out of his prime.
Clubber is shown to be a powerhouse fighter the likes of which he'd never been up against before, he couldn't take his punches the same as he could with others because he was simply too strong and fast for him. He bad to get that drive back and adapt his style in order to beat him. Clubber wasn't just some hack who got lucky, be was legitimately just a different type of fighter he'd never experienced before and wasn't prepared for.
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