Current Events > Canadian Supreme Court forcing Google to deindex a site

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/google-ruling-1.4181322

I don't like this one bit. Not one bit at all.
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I think that's fair. A company was stealing a product and reselling it online. Fuck those guys.
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I'd love it if Google just went "okay then no Google for Canadians" in response. =P
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

I think that's fair. A company was stealing a product and reselling it online. Fuck those guys.

But why is its googles responsibility to do anything? Can't you just order the site itself taken down?

I just don't like the potential fallout of such a decision. Anything that makes it easier for government to control the internet is something that makes me very uneasy.
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God damnit is the whole world dedicated to the complete destruction of the Internet as a neutral platform? Between Canada and the EU this week, it's like every decision has been made to force international companies under their thumb under force if necessary.
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Good thing I use Bing
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pikachupwnage posted...

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

I think that's fair. A company was stealing a product and reselling it online. Fuck those guys.

But why is its googles responsibility to do anything?

Because they also are in charge of a huge portion of online advertisements too.
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Can't Google just tell them to eat it? I mean what is Canada really going to do? Google is based in the US.
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I could understand ordering it's removal from the Canadian search results but not the global ones.

pikachupwnage posted...

Can't you just order the site itself taken down?

I would assume the website is based outside of Canada and therefore doesn't need to follow Canadian law.

Error1355 posted...

I'd love it if Google just went "okay then no Google for Canadians" in response. =P

I would imagine most Canadians would switch to another Search engine without to much care and the more tech literature would figure out how to get around it.

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?
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s0nicfan posted...

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?

It was an illegal fucking site. Do you think Google should keep up child pornography?
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damn liberal governments
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ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?

It was an illegal fucking site. Do you think Google should keep up child pornography?

Illegal in what country? Homosexuality is illegal in a bunch of countries, I guess Google should globally de-index any website that's pro homosexuality as well. Fundamentally, I think Google needs to be completely neutral as a search web site. Algorithms index sites, all sites, using the same technique. It's not their job, nor should it be, to stuff their results with exceptions based on the many demands of various countries and individuals.

EDIT: As others have mentioned, you go after the site, not Google. If you can't go after the site, go to the country hosting the site and get them to do it.
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This is bullshit. I can understand de-indexing it for Canadian google, but global de-indexing is horrible and sets terrible precedent.
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uwnim posted...

This is bullshit. I can understand de-indexing it for Canadian google, but global de-indexing is horrible and sets terrible precedent.

I cannot wait for all the disgusting propaganda slandering the heroes of our time such as Putin, Trump, Theresa May, and Jim Jung to be unsearchable.

Praise our wonderful glorious leaders!
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s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?

It was an illegal fucking site. Do you think Google should keep up child pornography?

Illegal in what country? Homosexuality is illegal in a bunch of countries, I guess Google should globally de-index any website that's pro homosexuality as well. Fundamentally, I think Google needs to be completely neutral as a search web site. Algorithms index sites, all sites, using the same technique. It's not their job, nor should it be, to stuff their results with exceptions based on the many demands of various countries and individuals.

EDIT: As others have mentioned, you go after the site, not Google. If you can't go after the site, go to the country hosting the site and get them to do it.

So you think it's perfectly okay for Google to leave up CP sites and anyone can just google it. Ok.
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ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?

It was an illegal fucking site. Do you think Google should keep up child pornography?

Illegal in what country? Homosexuality is illegal in a bunch of countries, I guess Google should globally de-index any website that's pro homosexuality as well. Fundamentally, I think Google needs to be completely neutral as a search web site. Algorithms index sites, all sites, using the same technique. It's not their job, nor should it be, to stuff their results with exceptions based on the many demands of various countries and individuals.

EDIT: As others have mentioned, you go after the site, not Google. If you can't go after the site, go to the country hosting the site and get them to do it.

So you think it's perfectly okay for Google to leave up CP sites and anyone can just google it. Ok.

Not taking the bait, at least not from someone actively campaigning to remove all homosexual material from the Internet.
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s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?

It was an illegal fucking site. Do you think Google should keep up child pornography?

Illegal in what country? Homosexuality is illegal in a bunch of countries, I guess Google should globally de-index any website that's pro homosexuality as well. Fundamentally, I think Google needs to be completely neutral as a search web site. Algorithms index sites, all sites, using the same technique. It's not their job, nor should it be, to stuff their results with exceptions based on the many demands of various countries and individuals.

EDIT: As others have mentioned, you go after the site, not Google. If you can't go after the site, go to the country hosting the site and get them to do it.

So you think it's perfectly okay for Google to leave up CP sites and anyone can just google it. Ok.

Not taking the bait, at least not from someone actively campaigning to remove all homosexual material from the Internet.

I never said that. You however won't answer the question. Clearly you think some exceptions should be made, unless you don't.
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EternalDivide posted...

Can't Google just tell them to eat it? I mean what is Canada really going to do? Google is based in the US.

Google still needs Canadian infrastructure to provide google to Canadians. Unless Google is fine with being blocked in Canada there's nothing beside litigation.
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ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?

It was an illegal fucking site. Do you think Google should keep up child pornography?

Illegal in what country? Homosexuality is illegal in a bunch of countries, I guess Google should globally de-index any website that's pro homosexuality as well. Fundamentally, I think Google needs to be completely neutral as a search web site. Algorithms index sites, all sites, using the same technique. It's not their job, nor should it be, to stuff their results with exceptions based on the many demands of various countries and individuals.

EDIT: As others have mentioned, you go after the site, not Google. If you can't go after the site, go to the country hosting the site and get them to do it.

So you think it's perfectly okay for Google to leave up CP sites and anyone can just google it. Ok.

Not taking the bait, at least not from someone actively campaigning to remove all homosexual material from the Internet.

I never said that. You however won't answer the question. Clearly you think some exceptions should be made, unless you don't.

No exceptions should be made. That's my point you troll, but I don't know why I'm even bothering....
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s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

s0nicfan posted...

GOATTHlEF posted...

This was pretty fair. People were getting fucked over by another company and google was being very disingenuous in helping deal with it, even though they were the main platform enabling it.

Do you have ANY idea horrifying it is that we might be setting precedent for one country to legally require google to de-index something globally? Are you really having trouble seeing how Russia, or Turkey, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or North Korea, or China might abuse that kind of rule?

It was an illegal fucking site. Do you think Google should keep up child pornography?

Illegal in what country? Homosexuality is illegal in a bunch of countries, I guess Google should globally de-index any website that's pro homosexuality as well. Fundamentally, I think Google needs to be completely neutral as a search web site. Algorithms index sites, all sites, using the same technique. It's not their job, nor should it be, to stuff their results with exceptions based on the many demands of various countries and individuals.

EDIT: As others have mentioned, you go after the site, not Google. If you can't go after the site, go to the country hosting the site and get them to do it.

So you think it's perfectly okay for Google to leave up CP sites and anyone can just google it. Ok.

Not taking the bait, at least not from someone actively campaigning to remove all homosexual material from the Internet.

You're literally advocating for the accessibility of CP....
Hopefully you are put in prison asap
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s0nicfan posted...

God damnit is the whole world dedicated to the complete destruction of the Internet as a neutral platform? Between Canada and the EU this week, it's like every decision has been made to force international companies under their thumb under force if necessary.

the consequences of going too far to the left

QuantumScript posted...

s0nicfan posted...

God damnit is the whole world dedicated to the complete destruction of the Internet as a neutral platform? Between Canada and the EU this week, it's like every decision has been made to force international companies under their thumb under force if necessary.

the consequences of going too far to the left

Trump and Ajit Pai aren't exactly helping either.
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Yeah I wouldn't do it if I were them. I'd release a statement saying that they complied with the Canadian request in 2014, but that they don't believe Canada has the right to regulate their business in other countires, and it ain't happening.

What can they do? Seriously.
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a lot of people are basing their fear on the false notion that Google is a neutral entity
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nexigrams posted...

What can they do? Seriously.

Canada could fine Google.

Error1355 posted...

I'd love it if Google just went "okay then no Google for Canadians" in response. =P

This is a very valid option. If they want to go down the authoritarian route they can be treated like China and Iran.
And lol at the shitposters trying to go the CP route. Google is notoriously family friendly. They already remove/put the slightest of risque stuff at the end.
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