Current Events > ANOTHER video of a CNN host calling Russia a ''nothing burger'' surfaces

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Guy_Fieri posted...

All of you shut the fuck up and talk about burgers now.

If I do so, will you take me to Flavortown?
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Coffeebeanz posted...

It's kind of hard to argue against a video of an actual CNN editor saying he thinks the Russia stories are bullshit.

Only if you throw reason out the window.

Yet the video includes several journalistic evasions and shortcuts that would likely elicit outrage from critics if a mainstream news organization had employed the same techniques.

For example, it never mentions that Bonifield is a producer of health and medical stories, raising questions about how relevant his views are, and how informed he is, about CNN’s political coverage. It also doesn’t disclose that he is based in Atlanta — not in Washington or New York, where most of CNN’s coverage of national affairs and politics are produced.

Instead, the video identifies him a “supervising producer,” suggesting a senior decision-making role. O’Keefe, who appears on the video as a kind of master of ceremonies, furthers this impression by saying the footage describes “the real motivation behind our dominant media organizations.”

This trend of distrust in the mainstream media and blind faith in anything you see on the internet is really weird.

Imagine literally believing anything O'Keefe puts out lol
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Doom_Art posted...

Imagine literally believing anything O'Keefe puts out lol

Imagine still believing in the Russia conspiracy theory when no evidence had ever been produced in support of it and not even CNN's producers and hosts buy it.
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The MSM is a propaganda machine controlled by big, big money with an agenda. They largely do not report the news unless it is an event too big to ignore. What they do report, they choose it and frame it.

In the early stages of Trump administration, it happens to be an all out smear campaign, with many accusations and headlines that have driven the news cycle for months been since proven false. They're disgusting. Absolutely sick. They all knew, with such confidence, that they had the American people by the ***** and Hillary would win. Now it's plan B.
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Conservatives are getting duped by a criminal yet again lmao
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CNN taking L's.

Can't believe people actually go out of their way to defend this crap.
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Im confused. I could have sworn Mal is someone who has always downplayed Russia's influence, so shouldn't this video be something he agreed with?
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shockthemonkey posted...

Even the Trump Administration admits that the Russians interfered with the election.

That's...not the conspiracy

The conspiracy is that Trump was complicit in it

shockthemonkey posted...

It's the same shit they cried about when CNN did it for their coverage of Mike Brown, and they were absolutely in the right to point out that selectively editing a 911 call to remove context and change the information people are given.

So what context was removed from these videos to make "The Russia thing is bullshit, Trump is right when he says it's a witch hunt, and we have no proof" mean something other than what they say
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I'm more confused about how much AltRighters lack critical thinking that something like this makes them go "Ha! Conspiracy EXPOSED!! Trump VINDICATED!!"

They're definitely the type that buys the National Enquirer and The Globe

https://cdn.magzter.com/1368738884/1486978545/images/thumb/390_thumb_1.jpg

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/National-Enquirer-Trump-Cover-December-26-2016.jpg
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iPhone_7 posted...

I'm more confused about how much AltRighters lack critical thinking that something like this makes them go "Ha! Conspiracy EXPOSED!! Trump VINDICATED!!"

Says a guy who defends a narrative that has zero supporting evidence.

You're like a flat earther trying to act smug
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Mal_Fet posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Even the Trump Administration admits that the Russians interfered with the election.

That's...not the conspiracy

The conspiracy is that Trump was complicit in it

The original conspiracy was that dumbass Trump filled his inner circle with people friendly to Russian higher-ups and several contacts. That he is inadvertently working for Putin. Because he's a very impressionable manchild.

And time after time it's revealed that his people made secret dealings and secret meetings and people still go "fake news, lalala fake news!
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iPhone_7 posted...

The original conspiracy was that dumbass Trump filled his inner circle with people friendly to Russian higher-ups and several contacts.

No, the conspiracy is that Trump is complicit in Russia influencing the election. I'm glad you've realized that that narrative is no longer defensible, but let's not try to rewrite history, k?

shockthemonkey posted...

Like are we really at the point where conservatives are embracing the opinion of a CNN producer as fact?

Question: does the revelation that senior staff at CNN don't buy the story make you question the validity of the Russia conspiracy at all?

I'm not even asking if you still believe the conspiracy. I'm just asking if you're capable of considering new information like a normal human being is.
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Mal_Fet posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

The original conspiracy was that dumbass Trump filled his inner circle with people friendly to Russian higher-ups and several contacts.

No, the conspiracy is that Trump is complicit in Russia influencing the election. I'm glad you've realized that that narrative is no longer defensible, but let's not try to rewrite history, k?

He may very well have directly colluded through his channels. It's not unfeasible considering he openly boasted about appreciating the help and hoped his opponent would further be hacked. And that's one of the many things the investigation is looking at. So there, defended. Try again Mal
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Is the guy in the video a Trump supporter? If so, of course he thinks it is bullshit, along with the rest of the willfully ignorant.
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shockthemonkey posted...

The real context of who the guy was who was saying that, why he was saying it, why he should be considered an authority, who was he talking to, what's their relation to him, why was he talking to them, what information does he get from the political side of CNN, who his source are, and pretty much everything else other than "durrr my uncle works for Nintendo and said the Russian conspiracy is fake."

This reminds me of that Dave Chapelle skit where a jury member requires a mountain of irrefutable evidence before he would even consider R Kelly guilty.

I haven't really been following this debacle at all, but it does seem like you would really only believe this to be true if the chief editor of politics at CNN came out and announced it himself, despite the fact that it would never happen because it would be career suicide.
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iPhone_7 posted...

He may very well have directly colluded through his channels.

Ok, so what evidence do you have of that
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The investigations aren't based on CNN, unfortunately, and this video doesn't newly prove they've been lying about anything.
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Mal_Fet posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

He may very well have directly colluded through his channels.

Ok, so what evidence do you have of that

Jesus fucking Christ you're dense. We're not saying he without a doubt did do it. It's an investigation, not a damn conviction.

There's enough lies and revelations about his inner circle and cabinet communicating and dealings with Russian higher-ups to warrant the investigations and look at how far this corruption goes.

Inb4 so iphone_7 you don't have evidence, ha gotcha! Investigation pointless, Trump vindicated!
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iPhone_7 posted...

Jesus fucking Christ you're dense. We're not saying he without a doubt did do it.

I certainly hope not. Anyone who said such a thing would be really foolish, right?

iPhone_7 posted...

There's enough lies and revelations about his inner circle and cabinet communicating and dealings with Russian higher-ups to warrant the investigations and look at how far this corruption goes.

There's evidence of exactly one of his ex staff colluding with Russia. Hardly worth covering every day since November.
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The irony of the very people who justified endless investigations into Benghazi and email servers criticizing any examination of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia is palpable. It bespeaks a real fear; fear of possible collusion, fear of obstruction of justice, fear of any number of financial crimes and incidences of public corruption which the special prosecutor may yet undercover.

1. Paul Manafort
2. MIchael Flynn
3. Jeff Sessions
4. Jared Kushner
5. Carter Page
6. Roger Stone

More than one.

Lying or not disclosing various communications and hmeetings with Russian higher-ups, some of which are part of organizations that are under sanctions by the U.S. and some that are suspected Russian spys. Lying about working as foreign agents for Russia. Communications with Russian hackers.
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Glass_Phantom posted...

The irony of the very people who justified endless investigations into Benghazi and email servers criticizing any examination of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia is palpable. It bespeaks a real fear; fear of possible collusion, fear of obstruction of justice, fear of any number of financial crimes and incidences of public corruption which the special prosecutor may yet undercover.

Where's your evidence of these collusion, obstructions, corruption, or financial crimes?? Huh?
Huh?!

Well?!?

Didn't think so!

#FireRobertMueller #EndTheInvestigationNow #FakeNews
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iPhone_7 posted...

1. Paul Manafort
2. MIchael Flynn
3. Jeff Sessions
4. Jared Kushner
5. Carter Page
6. Roger Stone

More than one.

Lying or not disclosing various communications and hmeetings with Russian higher-ups, some of which are part of organizations that are under sanctions by the U.S. and some that are suspected Russian spys. Lying about working as foreign agents for Russia. Communications with Russian hackers.

You're exactly right.

And if they are innocent, and truly did nothing wrong then this begs the question of why they feel the need to lie about it.

Same goes for the Big Cheese himself. If he is truly innocent of anything and ignorant of anything his staff may have done. Why is he acting the way he is? Deflecting towards Clinton/Obama, complaining about media coverage and "witch hunts", obstructing the FBI investigation by firing Comey, now his attacks on Mueller. This isn't how an innocent man behaves.



I'll admit earlier on in his administration I was kinda iffy on it. I thought "ah well Russia did hack the election but maybe they figured Trump is so impressionable they didn't need to collude with him"

There was one thing early on. I believe in a meeting with the Israeli PM. This was after Flynn was fired, I think. And I think the Sessions news dropped a few days after. And a reporter asked him if he had any comment on his administrations ties to Russia.

What did he do?

He shut down. Said nothing. Made none of his stereotypical attacks or outbursts. He just blank faced and looked straight ahead.

The reporter asked again. And he continued looking straight ahead.


That's when I figured. Okay. If he didn't collude during the election he knows some serious shit now.
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iPhone_7 posted...

1. Paul Manafort
2. MIchael Flynn
3. Jeff Sessions
4. Jared Kushner
5. Carter Page
6. Roger Stone

More than one.

Do you know the difference between an investigation and evidence? Because an investigation is not proof of evidence, you simp.

Do you also believe Bernie Sanders is guilty of tax fraud since he's currently under investigation for that?
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Mal_Fet posted...

Do you know the difference between an investigation and evidence? Because an investigation is not proof of evidence, you simp.

this makes you really angry lol

those people all have documented connections with either Russia or Wikileaks (which is more or less operating as an extension of the FSB) hence the investigation.
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After all the revelations and investigations not being done and you still go on about how it's much a do about nothing. If anyone is a simp it's you.
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iPhone_7 posted...

After all the revelations and investigations not being done and you still go on about how it's much a do about nothing. If anyone is a simp it's you.

It's amusing how this is apparently a wild conspiracy theory but Pizzagate and/or Seth Rich are totally the real deal guyz
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Bloodychess posted...

Welcome to nothing burger, home of the nothing burger, can i take your order?

I want my order mountain-sized. Molehill isn't big enough for me.
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I really like how Mal just keeps screaming at everyone to produce evidence like he thinks we all work for the FBI and would have access to that information.
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Everyone agrees that CNN was wrong to push a story just for ratings.

But pushing a story for ratings doesn't mean there is no story. It just means that they wrongly acted as thought it was closer to a settled issue than it actually is.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I really like how Mal just keeps screaming at everyone to produce evidence like he thinks we all work for the FBI and would have access to that information.

"I want evidence!!!"

You're a random nobody and the FBI/federal government doesn't need to justify their investigations to you.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I really like how Mal just keeps screaming at everyone to produce evidence like he thinks we all work for the FBI and would have access to that information.

Say it with me: Innocent until PROVEN guilty.
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Doom_Art posted...

those people all have documented connections with either Russia or Wikileaks

A "connection" is not evidence that they were complicit in Russia influencing the election. Furthermore, a connection between one of these people to Russia is also not evidence of Trump being complicit in Russia influencing the election.

How many senior CNN staff do you need to say "The Russia thing is bullshit" before you admit that yes, it's all probably bullshit?

I get that O'Keefe gets your panties in a twist, but neither Van Jones nor Bonifield said their words were misrepresented. Neither of them. You look as foolish as Hannity with his Seth Rich nonsense. Just cut your losses, man. You used to be so much more reasonable than this.
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Caution999 posted...

Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

That's the point of the investigation you silly goose.

Mal_Fet posted...

A "connection" is not evidence that they were complicit in Russia influencing the election. Furthermore, a connection between one of these people to Russia is also not evidence of Trump being complicit in Russia influencing the election.

That's the point of the investigation you silly goose.

Mal_Fet posted...

How many senior CNN staff do you need to say "The Russia thing is bullshit" before you admit that yes, it's all probably bullshit?

I mean, as other people have pointed out already,

A) CNN is not an investigative branch of the federal government
B) O'Keefe has been known to deprive valuable context and edit his clips very particularly

Mal_Fet posted...

I get that O'Keefe gets your panties in a twist

Are you suggesting that O'Keefe does not have a history of what I just mentioned?

If I know a guy who has a history of selectively editing and misrepresenting what someone has said, to the point where he has been charged for it, why on Earth would I take anything he puts out seriously?
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Doom_Art posted...

That's the point of the investigation you silly goose.

Actually, proving someone guilty is the purpose of a trial. An investigation is what you do to collect evidence, assuming any exists.

A) CNN is not an investigative branch of the federal government

Which makes it really weird that they keep covering claims they can't back up with anything, huh?

B) O'Keefe has been known to deprive valuable context and edit his clips very particularly

If he left out anything relevant, you bet your ass CNN would be shouting it from the rooftops.

They don't dare lie about "missing context", because O'Keefe would just produce the rest of the video and prove they're lying again.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Actually, proving someone guilty is the purpose of a trial. An investigation is what you do to collect evidence, assuming any exists.

And their connections with Russia are what made them subjects of investigation

I'm not sure what you're not getting about this

Mal_Fet posted...

If he left out anything relevant, you bet your ass CNN would be shouting it from the rooftops.

They don't dare lie about "missing context", because O'Keefe would just produce the rest of the video and prove they're lying again.

They don't say anything because he's a nothing to them. He's discredited partisan and no one takes him seriously, apart from pro-Trump nuts. It's in no way beneficial for anyone to address him lol.
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Caution999 posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

I really like how Mal just keeps screaming at everyone to produce evidence like he thinks we all work for the FBI and would have access to that information.

Say it with me: Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

The investigation hasn't ended

That means there's no trial in which Trump has been found guilty

If he hasn't been found guilty then that could only means he's innocent.

And an investigation of an innocent person is pointless.

Therefor they should cancel the investigation.
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Doom_Art posted...

And their connections with Russia are what made them subjects of investigation

I'm not sure what you're not getting about this

I'm not sure how you're not getting that a "connection" is not evidence of collusion to influence an election.

They don't say anything because he's a nothing to them.

Does their viewership mean anything to them? Do they not care how more and more people think they're full of shit every day?
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iPhone_7 posted...

The investigation hasn't ended

That means Trump hasn't been found guilty

If he hasn't been found guilty then that could only means he's innocent.

And an investigation of an innocent person is pointless.

Therefor they should cancel the investigation.

Your logic cuts like steel, sir.
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The liberal tears about Trump and this Russia nonsense have resulted in a ratings bonanza for CNN and MSNBC:

https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/cable-news-ratings-cnn-fox-news-msnbc-q2-1202479416/

Viewers are stupid enough to believe it and not hold those networks accountable, so don't expect this garbage to end anytime soon.
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Let's remember that this "investigation" is based on a discredited dossier created by Trump's enemies in the Democratic party. Steele and his "contacts" weaved a conspiracy around actual events that were already known in the media (Carter's trip to Russia, for example), and drew conclusions that were already guessed at. Much like the MJ-12 documents (Roswell crash and coverup were actual events, Stanton Friedman just added aliens to the mix).

http://nypost.com/2017/06/24/inside-the-shadowy-intelligence-firm-behind-the-trump-dossier/
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

I love how every single topic complaining about fake news uses fake news as a source.

Ammonitida posted...

http://nypost.com

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

I love how every single topic complaining about fake news uses fake news as a source.

Ammonitida posted...

http://nypost.com

Clueless dim thinks nypost is fake news just because they don't spew Russian-Trump garbage as if it were fact like his favorite sources, CNN and NYT. How typical.
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