Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 8 - Dead History Is Writ In Ink

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Leo voted. Points for Leo.

And guys I'm on lunch so I haven't read 100% scholastically. I've done this pretty much every week day
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bng_mmmk posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Read the previous post

Then again Day ends at Day 3 regardless so hm.... I'm probably wrong x_X

I read the posts

Are you insinuating I rolled usurper and claimed it?

You never claimed it, but Shad rolled godfather and only went after you
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does anyone happen to have a full list of everyones flavor claims?
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Moon Boy, sexiest heathen around
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red13n posted...

does anyone happen to have a full list of everyones flavor claims?

Asking this after you were asked to claim pings me in a bad way.
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My Immortal posted...

red13n posted...

does anyone happen to have a full list of everyones flavor claims?

Asking this after you were asked to claim pings me in a bad way.

This is stupid logic.
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There are a total of 5 vanilla flips + claims.

Thinking about it... that actually seems like a fairly reasonable number for a game this size.

VI, KBM, Puns, myself, plus a Dowolf flip.
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VeryInsane posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Read the previous post

Then again Day ends at Day 3 regardless so hm.... I'm probably wrong x_X

I read the posts

Are you insinuating I rolled usurper and claimed it?

You never claimed it, but Shad rolled godfather and only went after you

I see what you mean. The fact of there being an obvious flavor explanation is what I missed the first time. I've just glossed over flavor since it's all Greek to me so that point didn't stick
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1) bng_mmmk - Moon Boy, Vanilla
5) HanOfTheNekos - Edmure Tully, Vanilla
6) htaeD - Rorge, Thief
7) Jeff_Zero - Lady Stoneheart, Vig
8) Leafeon13N
9) Leo3L - Hall of Faces, Town Dead Mans Mason Recruiter and Backup
11) My_Immortal - Margarey Tyrell, Jack
13) Nanahara715 - Arys Oakheart, Vanilla
16) Vengeful_KBM - Randyll Tarly, Vanilla
17) VeryInsane - Arya Stark, Vanilla

Pretty sure this is correct?
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MI can you give flavor by chance
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inb4 vanilla
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I'm "the guild of the faceless men"

I mean I'm No One

I always highly overestimate the airport. That took 5 minutes to get through. The flights themselves still sick and take 12 hours tho
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Where are you flying? Airport security is usually highly overrated in the time it takes except at absolute peak hours.

(I'm curious what time you will not be here)
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I'm a beloved highborn in King's Landing because I'm kind and actually take care of the small folk instead of just being nasty to them. But while I am kind, I am not naive, I know the game of King's Landing and I came prepared. I've already made my way to being betrothed to the king and I'm just a few moves away from where I want to be.

Psychic scan is my legion of handmaidens telling me who visited me during the night
Bus drive is using my litter to transport two players
Tracking is using my family's connections to discover where someone has been
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My Immortal posted...

legion of handmaidens

I find this highly amusing
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red13n posted...

Where are you flying? Airport security is usually highly overrated in the time it takes except at absolute peak hours.

(I'm curious what time you will not be here)

My flights are ~12 to 430 PST and then ~6:30 to 9:30 PST

At which point I'll fall asleep

Times are PST for the sake of convenience because they're all different time zones
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I really hate the way it feels like MI had that post prepared.
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Prepared? I saw the request, opened my PM in a new window and paraphrased.

How long do you think that should take?
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red13n posted...

I really hate the way it feels like MI had that post prepared.

red13n posted...

This is stupid logic.

tbh
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An essay 12 inches of parchment long due by next week.
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Ehh, its a little orderly for a 5 minute post.
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Also forgive me for the rehash but...what is still bothering me is those day 1 kills.

Chris claimed he shot puns.

The obvious answer is he just shot stan and was lying but...

Somehow scum knows about bus driver. The one flip of power we have from them cant target anyone. There shouldn't have been any reason for scum to target puns following that first day.

Explanations for this have only gotten more thin as we've progressed.
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I was figuring either tracked MI or role scanned me due to the way I flirted with being power. Would make sense to know if I was worth shooting regardless. But maybe I'm being egocentric.
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Red are you going to claim?
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Wow lol I'm getting set up HARD here by scum. I'll be on my computer in a bit and able to properly respond, but this is pretty transparent now. Hell Chris was probably TRYING to make me look bad in case he died.

and yes, I've made it this far into the game before as town but not without some sort of informative power unless I'm very much mistaken. I have ALWAYS hated vanilla, and there are people here who should remember this if their memory of my play from years ago is as good as they claim.
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I mean

I don't think scum has to do much if you're town

I can't even remember what your current game opinions are
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Red are you going to claim?

When I feel like it.
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red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Red are you going to claim?

When I feel like it.

Pleeeeeeeease
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VengefulKaelee posted...

Wow lol I'm getting set up HARD here by scum. I'll be on my computer in a bit and able to properly respond, but this is pretty transparent now. Hell Chris was probably TRYING to make me look bad in case he died.

and yes, I've made it this far into the game before as town but not without some sort of informative power unless I'm very much mistaken. I have ALWAYS hated vanilla, and there are people here who should remember this if their memory of my play from years ago is as good as they claim.

One good way to counter scum setting you up would be to discuss who you think is town and scum, particularly with respect to the current day which I don't think you've acknowledged at all outside of it pertaining to yourself.
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Nanahara715 posted...

There are a total of 5 vanilla flips + claims.

Thinking about it... that actually seems like a fairly reasonable number for a game this size.

VI, KBM, Puns, myself, plus a Dowolf flip.

Ignore this because I forgot Han also claimed vanilla.
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Nana would you vote someone please?

This is seriously how towns lose. Piss the day away until there's no time left and scum has the upper hand.
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We have over 24 hours still I don't get your rush for votes?
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My Immortal posted...

We have over 24 hours still I don't get your rush for votes?

WHY WAIT FOR VOTES

This game was not 6 v 11 so it's not 4 v 6. And obviously not 5 v 5.

WHY NOT VOTE.
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red13n posted...

Also forgive me for the rehash but...what is still bothering me is those day 1 kills.

Chris claimed he shot puns.

The obvious answer is he just shot stan and was lying but...

Somehow scum knows about bus driver. The one flip of power we have from them cant target anyone. There shouldn't have been any reason for scum to target puns following that first day.

Explanations for this have only gotten more thin as we've progressed.

There are three thoughts

1) Chris still targeted Stan but got redirected to Stan or alarmed that the switch was overridden
2) Scum scanned MI N1 with a track and found out the hard way
3) MI is just scum
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Votes are how we force scum to objectively commit to shit
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I wish Leo, if town, could have recruited Boko last night. I feel like Boko probably targeted Stan N1 and could confirm that I'm not making up this bus drive.
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How about we just ask who people think are town

I miss death
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bng_mmmk posted...

My Immortal posted...

We have over 24 hours still I don't get your rush for votes?

WHY WAIT FOR VOTES

This game was not 6 v 11 so it's not 4 v 6. And obviously not 5 v 5.

WHY NOT VOTE.

bng_mmmk posted...

Votes are how we force scum to objectively commit to shit

I guess, but I'm feeling very hesitant and don't want to fuck this up.

Gun to my head I'd probably vote KBM right now, but I still really don't feel good about Leo.
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Hey VI who do you think is town?
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I'm still totally confused at what leo is actually claiming. Like, I'm pretty sure hes now claiming he just has ffd.

But I don't know what the hell to believe.
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MI, if it makes you feel better right now, I'm kicking myself that my gut of "we should just kill han" has possibly been right the whole time.
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Re-reading and I have a question for Leo when he's around. I want to ask it in real time though.
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I thought I did good being ambiguous about power day 1. :(

Maybe my flavor made it obvious or maybe scum chris don't give a fuck about puns.

I mean I know it's a strong list but wouldn't scum want to scan the weaker players they wouldn't end up killing regardless? Especially if they hinted power?
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bng_mmmk posted...

I thought I did good being ambiguous about power day 1. :(

Maybe my flavor made it obvious or maybe scum chris don't give a fuck about puns.

I mean I know it's a strong list but wouldn't scum want to scan the weaker players they wouldn't end up killing regardless? Especially if they hinted power?

The problem here is, by your logic you think they thought they could lynch you.
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My Immortal posted...

Hey VI who do you think is town?

Jeff... and Death/red I guess.

Most of everybody else is a crapshoot but I do lean a MI/Leo/Han side atm
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But that last playerslot can be anyone of Han/Puns/Nana

Maybe I'll sit down tonight and look more in depth
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My Immortal posted...

I wish Leo, if town, could have recruited Boko last night. I feel like Boko probably targeted Stan N1 and could confirm that I'm not making up this bus drive.

I feel like Boko definitely did this N1 and N2 probably wasted his save on Shad and shamed his family. Got shot because of posting about suspecting Chris and didn't actually protect anyone, which I think would be interesting.

The bus drive is 100% real, the question is was it a scum BD or can Chris's shot get around that?

I'm leaning towards scum just all being in the vanilla at this point honestly. They already had two power claims, no need to go for more than that.
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Jeff is confirmed as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think it makes sense for Death to be lying, and I've felt good about MI all game. Looking back over day 2 lynch, it seemed like Chris really wanted VI dead so I feel good about VI at the moment. I don't feel good about puns, but being flat out wrong about Shad makes me think I was flat out wrong about puns.
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My Immortal posted...

Re-reading and I have a question for Leo when he's around. I want to ask it in real time though.

Yo
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Leo3L posted...

I mean

I don't think scum has to do much if you're town

I can't even remember what your current game opinions are

Maybe you can't remember even this far back but the last time I even got a serious chance to say something was two game days ago, so this shouldn't be wildly surprising. Weekends are a bitch for me, which I said when I signed up. I managed to make it work for the first weekend of the game, but I'm sorry my second weekend (which, again, I warned people ahead of time would be a serious challenge) doesn't meet with your approval.

Anyway, thoughts on the current state of the game. In fact, let's go one by one:

Puns - Probably town. The optics of the game have just worked better the whole time when I've made that assumption.

Han - I... don't know. He's seemed pointlessly irritable the whole game but I can't tell if it's an act or just "Han feeling irritable". No read.

Death - My gut earlier said that he was scum. He's my probable "sixth man" if we're assuming a six-man scumteam, but I could just as easily see him being town.

Jeff - Almost certainly town, unless Jeff shooting Chris was some kind of insane scum gambit to vindicate Jeff through to the end of the game. That small possibility keeps nagging at me, but that's something to pursue later (if there even is a later; I'm dreading this being a lylo situation).

Red - Probably scum. This is a gut feeling.

Leo - I have been mostly taking his claim as read, which is a read that only becomes stronger when MI tries to take it apart (see below). Town.

MI - Trying to spin my interactions with Chris into largely nonsensical points against me. I have said several times that my and Chris' interactions make sense regardless of our alignment so trying to pigeon-hole me into an alignment based on those interactions just because we have a flip on him is foolish. As I have said, I was prodding Chris a whole bunch of different ways to see how he would react, and had some material ready to use it against him on D3 so I could provide something. This admittedly looks horrible for me since I never got to use it and wasn't free apart from that, but there you go. I'm not entirely accustomed to him dying on N2 (although, again, my memory, I'm sure it's happened.) The icing on top of all of this is that to have a Jack on top of everything just feels like the last straw on the camel's back in terms of "power overload". My strongest scum read.

Nana - Town. I've seen nothing to change my mind back to my original read here - likely town Puns saying one of the two of us has to be scum doesn't really change that either, as I have to go with how I feel. He seems to genuine and too earnest in his cluelessness to be anything else (and if you are scum, well, you've played a surprisingly good game so good on you, but you're certainly not my target for today even though you probably expect to be).

VI - Pushing me very hard all of a sudden. I'm starting to think Chris might have been trying to pull one of his patented "lynches on a scum mate to make himself look better" with his insistence on the VI lynch at the end of Day 2.