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MJ_Max
06/15/17 3:46:36 PM
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But now he actually is a hate symbol?

thats cause meanings can change
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Shadow20201
06/15/17 3:51:42 PM
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Repeat a lie enough times it becomes truth.
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MJ_Max
06/15/17 3:52:50 PM
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Shadow20201 posted...
Repeat a lie enough times it becomes truth.

It wasn't the repeating of a lie, it was just the repeating of the meme by alt righters
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The Admiral
06/15/17 3:52:55 PM
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MJ_Max posted...
But now he actually is a hate symbol?

thats cause meanings can change


No, it's not a hate symbol on its own. If Pepe is drawn saying racist/bigoted shit, then it is. If he's not saying anything like that, then it isn't.
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MJ_Max
06/15/17 3:55:06 PM
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The Admiral posted...
MJ_Max posted...
But now he actually is a hate symbol?

thats cause meanings can change


No, it's not a hate symbol on its own. If Pepe is drawn saying racist/bigoted shit, then it is. If he's not saying anything like that, then it isn't.

Did you know the swastika used to symbolize the sun and prosperity in Hinduism
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The Admiral
06/15/17 3:55:56 PM
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MJ_Max posted...
The Admiral posted...
MJ_Max posted...
But now he actually is a hate symbol?

thats cause meanings can change


No, it's not a hate symbol on its own. If Pepe is drawn saying racist/bigoted shit, then it is. If he's not saying anything like that, then it isn't.

Did you know the swastika used to symbolize the sun and prosperity in Hinduism


Great, thanks for the irrelevant trivia.
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weapon_d00d816
06/15/17 3:58:43 PM
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Pepe was popular long before racists started using it, and the non-racist versions are still popular alongside it.
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3rd_Best_Master
06/15/17 3:58:52 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
except he isn't actually a hate symbol now, he is still just pepe

If that's true the why did his creator retire him?
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MJ_Max
06/15/17 4:00:52 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Great, thanks for the irrelevant trivia.

Kay I'll try to be explicit with the analogy then. Even though in its original context swastikas represented something positive, if you try to use it in that context today it won't work, cause the negative context has become too strongly associated with the symbol. It's similar with pepe, even if used in an innocent context, to the layperson the symbol itself has become associated with negativity
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SGT_Conti
06/15/17 4:02:26 PM
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It really did become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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weapon_d00d816
06/15/17 4:03:02 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
except he isn't actually a hate symbol now, he is still just pepe

If that's true the why did his creator retire him?

He didn't retire him. Everyone is still using him. You can't just retire a meme. "Hey everyone stop using this meme, I started it so I decide when and how everyone uses it."
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3rd_Best_Master
06/15/17 4:04:08 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
except he isn't actually a hate symbol now, he is still just pepe

If that's true the why did his creator retire him?

He didn't retire him. Everyone is still using him. You can't just retire a meme. "Hey everyone stop using this meme, I started it so I decide when and how everyone uses it."

Is his creator still using Pepe in his comics? Gee, why not? He's been retired breh.
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Kaname_Madoka
06/15/17 4:05:07 PM
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he made a strip of Pepe being dead
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weapon_d00d816
06/15/17 4:05:18 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
except he isn't actually a hate symbol now, he is still just pepe

If that's true the why did his creator retire him?

He didn't retire him. Everyone is still using him. You can't just retire a meme. "Hey everyone stop using this meme, I started it so I decide when and how everyone uses it."

Is his creator still using Pepe in his comics? Gee, why not? He's been retired breh.

People don't pay attention to his comics. I for one didn't even know where it came from and that there was someone making "official" comics of him.
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3rd_Best_Master
06/15/17 4:06:16 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
except he isn't actually a hate symbol now, he is still just pepe

If that's true the why did his creator retire him?

He didn't retire him. Everyone is still using him. You can't just retire a meme. "Hey everyone stop using this meme, I started it so I decide when and how everyone uses it."

Is his creator still using Pepe in his comics? Gee, why not? He's been retired breh.

People don't pay attention to his comics. I for one didn't even know where it came from and that there was someone making "official" comics of him.

Great, glad we agree that he's been retired due to his being adopted as a hate symbol.
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MakoReizei
06/15/17 4:07:35 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
except he isn't actually a hate symbol now, he is still just pepe

If that's true the why did his creator retire him?

He didn't retire him. Everyone is still using him. You can't just retire a meme. "Hey everyone stop using this meme, I started it so I decide when and how everyone uses it."

Is his creator still using Pepe in his comics? Gee, why not? He's been retired breh.

People don't pay attention to his comics. I for one didn't even know where it came from and that there was someone making "official" comics of him.

Great, glad we agree that he's been retired due to his being adopted as a hate symbol.

nobody cares. He's still going to be used
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3rd_Best_Master
06/15/17 4:08:52 PM
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And I never said he wouldn't.
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Taxer
06/15/17 4:09:20 PM
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Pepe has primarily been used by alt righters for the past year or two. No one aside from them really uses Pepe anymore.
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The Admiral
06/15/17 4:10:06 PM
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MJ_Max posted...
The Admiral posted...
Great, thanks for the irrelevant trivia.

Kay I'll try to be explicit with the analogy then. Even though in its original context swastikas represented something positive, if you try to use it in that context today it won't work, cause the negative context has become too strongly associated with the symbol. It's similar with pepe, even if used in an innocent context, to the layperson the symbol itself has become associated with negativity


Nope, Pepe is not the swastika regardless of what you or anyone else would like to think. A harmless Pepe meme is not a hate symbol.
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MakoReizei
06/15/17 4:10:08 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
And I never said he wouldn't.

he hasn't been "retired" either
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3rd_Best_Master
06/15/17 4:12:14 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
And I never said he wouldn't.

he hasn't been "retired" either

*yawn*
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snesmaster40
06/15/17 4:12:18 PM
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Someone got triggered hard by an image of Pepe
https://www.twitter.com/rbraceysherman/status/875023493678739456
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weapon_d00d816
06/15/17 4:16:02 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Pepe has been successfully co-opted by the alt-right so yes, he is a hate symbol now. His creator even retired him from his comic due to it.

I haven't seen a non-alt-right or non-hateful use of Pepe in what feels like years.

He's not a hate symbol because if you post a picture of the "feels bad man" Pepe you're not declaring white supremacy.
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gmanthebest
06/15/17 4:30:08 PM
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It's all about how it's used. For the most part though, it's just a harmless meme.
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