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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:28:07 PM
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Watch no one bitches about Spiderman's QTEs
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Johnny_Nutcase
06/12/17 11:28:30 PM
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*watches*
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gafemaqs
06/12/17 11:29:12 PM
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More like Arkham Spiderman
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PowerOats
06/12/17 11:29:47 PM
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Just like Resident evil 4
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voldothegr8
06/12/17 11:30:54 PM
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My post from the conference topic:

Man they even QTE'd up Spiderman
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Johnny_Nutcase
06/12/17 11:31:31 PM
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*keeps watching*

Nothing yet SIR!
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Iodine
06/12/17 11:32:22 PM
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What is wrong with QTEs?
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Banjo2553
06/12/17 11:32:34 PM
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Apparently Spider-Man has had QTEs for over a decade. Haven't played many Spider-Man games since 3.
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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:32:36 PM
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I want some RE6 level of shitting.
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Zodd3224
06/12/17 11:32:53 PM
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QTEs WTF OMG
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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:33:06 PM
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Iodine posted...
What is wrong with QTEs?

I guess you weren't around when RE6 came out.
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Squall28
06/12/17 11:34:57 PM
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I've been bitching since the trailer.
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FightingGames
06/12/17 11:35:56 PM
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SSBBSB
06/12/17 11:36:38 PM
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Squall28 posted...
I've been bitching since the trailer.

I've been bitching since 1922.
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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:37:59 PM
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I need more people to cry about QTEs like they did in 2014!!!!!
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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:44:19 PM
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TBH I don't mind QTEs. I rather enjoy them actually. I just want to point out the hippocrits that selective use this to bash certain games and give free passes to other games.
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Dragonblade01
06/12/17 11:45:30 PM
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Some QTEs are good and some are bad. It's all about how and when they're implemented.
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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:46:59 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Some QTEs are good and some are bad. It's all about how and when they're implemented.

What a nice way of saying QTEs are only good so long as you like them.
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Dragonblade01
06/12/17 11:53:06 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Some QTEs are good and some are bad. It's all about how and when they're implemented.

What a nice way of saying QTEs are only good so long as you like them.

Are you suggesting that something can only be good or bad regardless of implementation? Because that's blatantly wrong.
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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:54:26 PM
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Are you suggesting that this game's QTE based on the trailer is actually any better or different from other AAA titles?
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Dragonblade01
06/12/17 11:55:39 PM
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I don't know if they're any better or not. I haven't played the game.

If you notice, I didn't actually say whether I thought the QTEs in Spiderman are good or bad.

Now it's your turn to answer my question.
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Veggeta X
06/12/17 11:56:42 PM
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Oh there certainly can be good or bad QTEs... based on personal opinions.
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Spidey5
06/12/17 11:58:34 PM
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Dragonblade01
06/12/17 11:59:36 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Oh there certainly can be good or bad QTEs... based on personal opinions.

...and?

You say that like it somehow delegitimizes the distinction when it is the very thing that makes the distinction appropriate.
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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:00:26 AM
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Spidey5 posted...
There was quite the bitchfest in the e3 topic

I need to see them or else I'm gonna think people are objectively QTEs free passes.
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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:01:09 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Oh there certainly can be good or bad QTEs... based on personal opinions.

...and?

You say that like it somehow delegitimizes the distinction when it is the very thing that makes the distinction appropriate.

Well when people make comments such as "All QTES are bad!" it kinda makes your point moot.
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Holy_Cloud105
06/13/17 12:01:11 AM
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As long as the game is fun to play, and it looks like it should be fun. The QTE's seem likes it's all cutscene shit anyway.
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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:01:43 AM
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Honestly I won't be satisfied until someone make a QTE parody for Spiderman like they did for RE6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LrVou1Jo7w

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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:02:10 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
As long as the game is fun to play, and it looks like it should be fun. The QTE's seem likes it's all cutscene shit anyway.

What a nice way to say you'll make an exception to QTEs for this particular game.
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Holy_Cloud105
06/13/17 12:02:50 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Holy_Cloud105 posted...
As long as the game is fun to play, and it looks like it should be fun. The QTE's seem likes it's all cutscene shit anyway.

What a nice way to say you'll make an exception to QTEs for this particular game.

I never complained about QTE's though.
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Dragonblade01
06/13/17 12:03:54 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Oh there certainly can be good or bad QTEs... based on personal opinions.

...and?

You say that like it somehow delegitimizes the distinction when it is the very thing that makes the distinction appropriate.

Well when people make comments such as "All QTES are bad!" it kinda makes your point moot.

And I disagree with them that all QTEs are bad and can actually articulate why I think that and the benefit they can offer video games. Just because the discussion is centered on opinions doesn't mean you can't be persuasive.
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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:07:07 AM
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You can't be persuasive to people who objectively find bias confirmations on certain mechanics as a negative thing. In short, the people who hated AAA games for QTEs didn't actually hate QTEs. They hated the game for little to no good reasons so they used QTEs as a reason to rationalization. We're pointing out two different things here.
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Dragonblade01
06/13/17 12:13:54 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
You can't be persuasive to people who objectively find bias confirmations on certain mechanics as a negative thing. In short, the people who hated AAA games for QTEs didn't actually hate QTEs. They hated the game for little to no good reasons so they used QTEs as a reason to rationalization. We're pointing out two different things here.

So you're just making generalizations and assumptions about certain people, putting them in a group based on that, then hunting for examples by which you can criticize this manufactured group of yours. Noted.
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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:17:27 AM
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You can't make generalizations and assumptions about certain people when those certain people are already solid in what I'm saying LMAO.
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WizardPowers
06/13/17 12:18:56 AM
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Didn't the older spooder-man games have QTEs?
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Delirious_Beard
06/13/17 12:19:17 AM
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literally tons of people were
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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:20:55 AM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
literally tons of people were

Good.
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Banjo2553
06/13/17 12:22:50 AM
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WizardPowers posted...
Didn't the older spooder-man games have QTEs?

Every game since 3, apparently.
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Dragonblade01
06/13/17 12:25:21 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
You can't make generalizations and assumptions about certain people when those certain people are already solid in what I'm saying LMAO.

You're literally assuming that the same people who didn't like QTEs in RE6 wouldn't have a problem with QTEs in Spiderman because you really, really want to stick it to people who don't like RE6.
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Veggeta X
06/13/17 12:27:46 AM
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RE6 was just one of an example. I'm sorry I didn't make that clear. There was unfair QTE complaints for other games too like God of War and exceptions were made for games like KH2.
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DevsBro
06/13/17 12:51:18 AM
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QTEs and context moves both can be great. When they're done right, they keep you on your toes and form a greater bond between the player and character than simply watching the player do whatever in a cutscene.

Metal Gear Rising did them beautifully.

But they're not so great if it's clear the developer had no idea what purpose they serve and just did it to immitte RE4.

Which actually RE4 is another great example. Very appropriate for a survival horror game (though RE4 barely counts as such), especially one that focuses on hsmeplay features like barricading doors and such, which again a survival horror game should.
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