Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 4 - No Fight Is Hopeless Till It Has Been Fought

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red13n posted...

FFDragon posted...

red took unusual umbrage when I said I was not an easy lynch (going to far as to say it would be simple with this playerlist), so whether because he's scum or because of his ego he's giving it a whirl.

In an effort to make this all about me now because that is when I have the most fun, I am going to tell you all straight up that I will not claim today. I will not give red the satisfaction of coercing me off of those (either scum or ego).

I've given you guys all the free time I've had, if this amount of activity isn't good enough for you, go ahead and push me out of the game now.

And to make everything even MORE bad on the optics, I just got off of work and I'm going to dinner so I'll be back like 8ish (and should be here until lynch after that).

Discuss.

So you finally have time to post and all you give us is a "poor me I put in all my time" post? Seriously. And not even just a small one. You should be better than that.

He'll be back in two minutes on the dot or else...!
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Remind me what do people think of

Shad
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Like he's done very little except poke turbopuns yet is basically invisible
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Leo3L posted...

Would scum Han double down on trying to lynch a claimed cop D1? That's a hard sell

Shad can go ahead and die though tbh

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[5] FFD: red, death, Leo, KBM, Scare
[3] puns: Shad, Stan, Han
[2] dowolf: (Chris), (MI), (Leo), MI, VI
[1] Chris: (puns), (Scare), Nana
[1] Leo: Chris, (MI)
[1] Han: puns
[0] death: (VI)
[0] MysteriousStan: (Han), (dowolf), (Jeff Zero), (puns), (Leo), (death)
[0] Nana: (Chris), (KBM), (MI), (KBM), (Stan)
[0] Scare: (Leo), (Stan), (puns), (Death)
[0] Boko: (MI), (KBM)
[0] VI: (Chris)
[0] red: (VI), (KBM)
[0] MI: (puns)
[0] Jeff: (Nana)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch. Day ends at 9 PM CST tonight, a little less than 2 hours from now.
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I don't think Han quite doubled down
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MI and VI tag team

Join the crusade! Bring down the big bad wolf!
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I liked Shad for calling out Nana going after JZ early, as it bothered me too.

I have minimal memories of what he's done since then though. Let me read some
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can't tell if collusion?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Shaduln posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Shaduln posted...

I wouldn't follow onto a lynch started by anyone that was on my scumlist.

Have you ever voted a scum buddy on day 1?

jw

Sure but I don't think I've ever tried to full on lead a lynch.

Congrats, you're in that position now.
Take the wheel and drive.

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mmmm yesssss I've been waiting for this pain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QezS57OODKc

I have no intention of actively fight against my lynch here, so feel free to continue talking about others while I do some reading.
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bng_mmmk posted...

can't tell if collusion?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Shaduln posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Shaduln posted...

I wouldn't follow onto a lynch started by anyone that was on my scumlist.

Have you ever voted a scum buddy on day 1?

jw

Sure but I don't think I've ever tried to full on lead a lynch.

Congrats, you're in that position now.
Take the wheel and drive.

I don't really see at as collusion - isn't he calling Shad your scummate since Shad is also on you?
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Is that Shad's last contribution since my claim?
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Why would FFD not wish to fight his lynch?
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FFD isn't going to claim here, town or scum. If people are voting for a claim, then he's not gonna give you one. Pretty sure he won't back down on this
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did Boko give us his minimum 100 word mafia MO? I posted that while I was having a beer and then completely forgot about it!
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What's the point of stating how you play

If you are able to correctly point it out you're probably able to replicate it as scum
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bng_mmmk posted...

did Boko give us his minimum 100 word mafia MO? I posted that while I was having a beer and then completely forgot about it!

found his response

MajinZidane posted...

@puns: what exactly are you asking for me to do?

people have been talking about how you're a great player but lack activity so I want you to talk freely for a bit about how you approach the game for comparison against your actual play as we've seen here
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bng_mmmk posted...

did Boko give us his minimum 100 word mafia MO? I posted that while I was having a beer and then completely forgot about it!

Pfft, what do you think.

I don't think he posted since you asked that until just now!
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Honestly this par for the course for Boko.
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VeryInsane posted...

What's the point of stating how you play

If you are able to correctly point it out you're probably able to replicate it as scum

I don't see the point of banking on this "probably" stuff

His name has come up a lot as being inactive and I'm trying to make him be more active. Saying 'boko what do you think of X' didn't seemed like a boring approach
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*seemed like a boring approach
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I'd like it better if it was something like Boko wrote about FFD's play and FFD wrote about Boko's play.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Er,

##Vote: FFD

This is what I get for multitasking, I got ninja'd by another vote in the proper format >_<

Wow, I hate this vote.

You've already blatantly stated that the only reason you aren't voting for me is bexause you don't think there will be reaction to vote me and I can be saved for later.

Voting FFD here when you strongly feel I'm scum indicates that you feel our entire "spat" on page three/four where I tell him I'm not getting into a dick pissing contest with him was completely faked content.

The reason I'm not voting you is because splinter votes are useless at the end of the day and there are other people that look scummy. Just because I think there is a possibility that you are scum, does not preclude my thinking there is a possibility that FFD is scum, and of the viable options for today, FFD is currently the most compelling.

Like the only way that post is not totally stupid is if you think I'm somehow 100% positive that every person I've voted for is scum, which I assure you, I'm not 100% positive of anything on the first day of a game.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Like the only way that post is not totally stupid is if you think I'm somehow 100% positive that every person I've voted for is scum, which I assure you, I'm not 100% positive of anything on the first day of a game.

True/false I'm your number 1 scum read
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Han stopped posting.

FFD says he isn't going to fight his lynch, but he's reading which probably means content to come.

Considering moving to dowolf.
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Let's see after a scan, the whole caravan on Stan has its problems, and it's led by the guy I don't trust the most!

##Vote: Han

When I'm gone, poke this one with the sharp sides of sticks.

Calling my shot on the rest of them -- dowolf, Scare, possibly Shad, possibly red.
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wow what timing
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I'll probably keep chunking out thoughts until 10, but yeah that's the most you're going to get out of me.

Take them seriously tomorrow.
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Nanahara715 posted...

True/false I'm your number 1 scum read

False. I've been vacillating back and forth. An actually true statement would be "you have remained on my list and I would be willing to lynch you based on current information".

Anyone else for Han?

I realize the awkward nature given the fact that the lynch leader just returned and voted him.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

True/false I'm your number 1 scum read

False. I've been vacillating back and forth. An actually true statement would be "you have remained on my list and I would be willing to lynch you based on current information".

Do you believe the exchanges between me and FFD were faked?
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##Vote: FFD

Not liking his complete lack of defense. Admittedly I'm also not sure what to make of it, except that it's a possible full-scale handwave dismissal of the various rationales for voting him.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Do you believe the exchanges between me and FFD were faked?

Do you believe that for me to think one or the other of you could be scum, I need to believe that both of you are scum? Or are you just going to ask me pointless questions?

No handwaving necessary. Part of me wants to let red hang himself and part of me enjoys the novelty of me getting lynched after saying I'm a hard lynch.

If this is my Wizards season, I'll still always have the Bulls!
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bng_mmmk posted...

Anyone else for Han?

I realize the awkward nature given the fact that the lynch leader just returned and voted him.

Summarize your case on Han for me, your back and forth with him felt like a lot of angry yelling
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FFD why would you not even claim? If you're town there's so much time left for people to shift somewhere else and you could, ya know, maybe live instead.
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Also lol at FFD not giving a shit about the game at all all of a sudden.

I give shits! Living is always preferable to dying.

I've already explained why I won't claim though.
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I don't like FFD's attitude here, but I've seen town take this stupid hill to die on too many times to not be wary.
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Well yeah, seeing as I don't play regularly anymore I get to take stupid hills without further repercussions and be fine with it.
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My Immortal posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Anyone else for Han?

I realize the awkward nature given the fact that the lynch leader just returned and voted him.

Summarize your case on Han for me, your back and forth with him felt like a lot of angry yelling

Right from the off he called me suspicious but didn't do anything about it. His favorite thing to do is to tell people he knows they're Scum. He just pointed it out but didn't vote me because he had a Guaranteed Scum which ended up being Stan who turned out to claim Ninja Cop. And when Shad voted me early on, also with bad reasoning mind you, Han gave him praise but again without pressuring me in any way. When I've attacked Han his justification for his suspicion on me has felt fake. It's honestly largely a stone cold gut read but maybe his silence here is also somewhat telling.
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The reasoning being not giving red the satisfaction?

What if your claim was believable and we lynched red like you want if you claim? Wouldn't that be MORE satisfying?
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Do you believe the exchanges between me and FFD were faked?

Do you believe that for me to think one or the other of you could be scum, I need to believe that both of you are scum? Or are you just going to ask me pointless questions?

I think it's ironic that when I wouldn't answer FFD's questions about being an easy lynch, you considered it unhelpful and disengenuous, but are now doing the same here.
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Or, Han since that's who your actually voting.

Either way, better than just dying, sin't it?
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I don't CARE if the exchanges between you and FFD were faked. It literally doesn't make a difference.

I swear you and FFD are acting intentionally dumb right now.

I don't know if I want red lynched yet, I still don't know if it's scum or ego driving it. I want Han lynched.

And no, setting ultimatums is the most satisfying of all. Like I said, I enjoy the game when the focus is on me. If that's just for another 90 minutes, I am very okay with this.
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bng_mmmk posted...

people have been talking about how you're a great player but lack activity so I want you to talk freely for a bit about how you approach the game for comparison against your actual play as we've seen here

Okay, sure.

I kind of take a backseat early on, but I stay up to date on what's going on in topic. I don't really put my hat in the ring for any of the top lynches on day 1, and will instead occasionally ask people questions casually in order to try and get a read on them and ask how they feel about other things that are happening (which, usually, apparently have to do with their thoughts on me). I don't do nothing at all, though; I weigh in on topics that I have an opinion on (in this game: things like Scare's initial vote, red's thoughts on FFD, dowolf in general), and I especially like to point out people that I think are town (this game: Jeff Zero, KBM).

At least, that's how I remember it. I haven't played in 2-4 years. There's probably to be a lot of rust. I also never claimed to be a "great player" at any point.
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I just want everyone to know that this is classic FFD, this isn't a town or scum move.

He might be doing it for a legitimate reason, he might be doing it because it's fun, he might be doing it because he's scum and ... it's fun. Or the red thing, too.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

I swear you and FFD are acting intentionally dumb right now.

I seldom feel so close to the mafia gods as when I am being whipped for mine own wickedness tbqh
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