Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 1 - Some Men Think Because They're Afraid To Do

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Also I want to ISO vi to give him a better answer than I did. Might not be right away, but it's on my to do list.
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Current Votals
[1] Jeff: Nana
[1] dowolf: Chris
[1] MI: puns
[1] Chris: (puns), Scare
[1] Nana: (Chris), KBM
[1] red: VI
[1] puns: Shad


With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch (early). Day ends Monday at 9 PM CST (roughly 33.75 hours from now).
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I figured the personality type would be the direction you would be taking.

That said, I disagree. We have had several confrontational head cases over the years that manage to not get lynched during the Day. Also, for the couple games this year that Nana was playing (CC and TP) he was extremely obvtown in the former and never was a serious lynch candidate in the latter. Personality can be a slight factor leading by to certain mislynches, but I think the biggest is more miscommunication.

I also don't take the outsider argument that seriously. Nana may be CE, but Suprak made him auto in for a reason
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I mean, you are free to disgree(you are wrong, but thats ok).

My Immortal posted...

Not red but

The last like, 3 games I've played with red no one listens to him and either lynches him or the person he is not voting for and it's always ended poorly for town.

I think a big issue is he is at work during deadline and players have a short attention span and forget everything he has said and done.

Nana voting Jeff is the most Nana thing he could've done. Nana tends to go after new players regardless of his alignment.

why so meta

I think that dowolf post was fucking adorable and anyone seriously thinking he was scum because of it is either scum themselves of hates fun.

the only thing i hate more than fun is adorableness.

how dare you mock my absolutely 100% literal depiction of what chris's eyes look like.

VeryInsane posted...

Thinking about it, that's a slip

##vote: red

Nana hasn't gotten lynched in a mafia game on board 8 tonmy historian-esque knowledge. If it happened, it was in Forum Mafia. Red hasn't played in Forum Mafia (he was largely against the move)

Ergo, made up tell. If this was for, say, Kanz or KBM I would understand. But Nana? Nah

remind me to also respond to this once red responds.
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You are reminded
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oh right. brain decided to forget that leafeon = red. derp.

anyways, the argument is dumb. most "perspective swap" arguments are.
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I mean, I'm biased but I don't think it's that bad

Nana is pretty argumentative but I don't think he's ever really been in danger of getting mislynched. Was an odd statement
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But bad enough to vote?
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Shaduln posted...

OK, I've read through page 5, and puns is not coming off well at all. I don't like the single mindedness with MI. There isn't anything "modkillable" like red said, but to me it looks like puns trying to make a reason to vote on MI "hey guys look MI ran away and didn't answer my question".

##Vote: puns

Also, I don't like Nana's JZ vote. Literally going for the newbie.

Chris and FFD seem very comfortable. Don't think that means anything, as they probably both would be as either scum or town. Maybe slight town points to FFD as he's out of practice?

Gonna make some coffee and tackle the rest.

puns suspicion is good.

What is wrong about going for the newbie?
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dowolf posted...

But bad enough to vote?

Well... I don't have many other leads atm

I mean, I guess if the only other players I really disliked were Scare and Stan but it's not enough to warrant votes atm
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Fair enough.
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okay fully back now

anything Immediate I need to know before I dig in?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

What is wrong about going for the newbie?

It feels very lazy and easy. Like MI was saying, it's not that Jeff shouldn't be considered, but I don't feel like he is a good "start of D1" vote. I also felt like nana's defensiveness was a little forced.
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My Immortal posted...

Oh there's shad. Hi shad.

Hi MI.
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dowolf posted...

oh right. brain decided to forget that leafeon = red. derp.

anyways, the argument is dumb. most "perspective swap" arguments are.

It's not really a perspective swap, it's more 'this thing he said is false'
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i thought the implication was that someone had told him that nana gets lynched all the time as town in forum games?
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That said, I'm very interested to see JZ's return as Basil.
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What the haps my peeps?
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There are 9 pages of posts for you to find out, leo.

Nana is one of those scrum players who doesn't enjoy/can't really play scum, so he doesn't. Someone who has a real issue thinking up things to say. It may be the most blatant shift of any player I can think of aside from Spiral.

He did fake claim cop once and win, that was pretty cool.
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Other than that those 9 pages had a lot of nonsense. Hardly counts as the haps at all.
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4 to 6 can mostly be ignored, if i recall correctly.

also quick question since the last game was a blur

Nana was the fake claimed selfhealing doc jack right?
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Nana's defensiveness didn't strike me as forced so much as maybe a little bizarre. I guess he latches on to just about anything from the word go and hopes it sticks? I can see the logic in that, but inevitably it is going to involve some heat.
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I also kinda like KBM for town for having a sort of towny stubborness, continuing to go after Nana even though a lot of the game considers him Town. Scum would be more likely to go after easier prey, I think.
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##Vote: Scare

Let's just lynch Scare. I'm a bit salty nobody lynched him after I died in the last game I played, he was really obvious.

Note: This isn't a joke vote, I just don't have a good reason besides slight gut from his posts last night. I wanna see where this goes.
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At the very least, mind telling us what posts triggered your gut?
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okay I know from experience that red likes to do this
but I really dont like it when he goes and tosses out opinions but sets the reasoning aside for later

regardless, not much of interest so far (page 4)
thought I'd get something out of Chris's 'push' against Red, but everyone was joking there anyway
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I dunno, any of them? All of them? I know the game is just starting and most people haven't said anything worthwhile yet but I am singling out Scare .
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So I was thinking before going to bed (this was a bad idea, couldn't get to sleep quickly) that I really didn't like Scare's comments earlier. Don't want my question for him to get glossed over in whatever recap that he does so I'm just going to leave this here for now.

##Vote: Scare

Oh hi there, Leo. I like your vote.

See??? He just gives off that vibe!
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Back-to-back Scare votes within minutes of one-another for separate reasons, eh?
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The only thing better than back to back votes is back to back to back to back to back votes, like a herd of elephants protecting their young.
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(Translation: You should vote him too. Vote him like he's Yuna in the final three)

(It's been awhile since I paid attention to SMFFC sorry if I forgot who you support there)
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Jeff Zero posted...

Back-to-back Scare votes within minutes of one-another for separate reasons, eh?

very visibly so

...any immediate thoughts about that?
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(No, no. You did well. Yuna is still one of my mains.)
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I don't think that analogy works when the votes are meant to kill scum...not protect baby elephants.

But anyway, for me it was really the "anyways" it of Scare's post when he listed me, KBM, and Nana as top easy lynches like it was already a forgone conclusion that that was what's going to happen. The rest of the content of his posts are pretty much rehashes of stuff that's already happened. So when he gets back I'd like to know why he listed those three specifically.

htaeD posted...

Jeff Zero posted...

Back-to-back Scare votes within minutes of one-another for separate reasons, eh?

very visibly so

...any immediate thoughts about that?

Sure, but they can't possibly be remotely original: it feels too much like a play, which makes it feel innocent, which in turn makes it feel suspicious to me. This being my first game, I'm likely to see things more surface-level than the vets, but my immediate impulse is to find it questionably obvious.
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So are you saying you're not going to vote Scare like he's Yuna in the final three at this time?
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Leo3L posted...

So are you saying you're not going to vote Scare like he's Yuna in the final three at this time?

He strikes me as more of a Vincent.

I'm not voting for Scare, no. That may change, but as of this moment I do not suspect him as much as I suspect you.
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Why do you suspect Leo?

MysteriousStan posted...

Why do you suspect Leo?

I suspect both of you, albeit not enough to vote. The serendipity of your posts just strikes me as potentially planned.
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Okay cool. I was going to say that it'd be weird for you to say that you suspect Leo and not me for his Scare vote. But you did. I'm liking you right now, Mr. Zero.

*salute!*
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this conversation feels off to me.

is one of you scum?

you can tell me. I promise I won't hurt you if you do.
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dowolf posted...

this conversation feels off to me.

is one of you scum?

you can tell me. I promise I won't hurt you if you do.

Stick around me long enough and you'll learn that half my conversations feel off. I'm an off-kilter kind of dude, but I'm sure I have plenty of recurring literary ticks I've not yet been made aware of.

But no, I'm not scum. I'm actually town, as it happens.
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A likely story.
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Well, I do think that Jeff's thinking here is coming more from a town perspective. And I'm town so, you're probably just reading it wrong, dowolf. Unless you meant Leo in which case I can't really help you there!