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MaverickXeo 06/08/17 3:43:09 PM #102: |
ASithLord7 posted...
myzz7 posted...the first president in US history to be pro gay rights He claimed to be for gay rights coming into office. Obama did not claim that when he came into office. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 3:43:55 PM #103: |
Caution999 posted...
Caution999 posted...You said (instead of Hitler) "A Nazi" No, it doesn't. And you're still getting what I said wrong regardless --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 3:44:31 PM #104: |
Axiom posted...
Caution999 posted...I love how I'M the crazy one, but the people who are saying "aligning yourself with Trump is like a Jew loving Hitler" are perfectly level-headed. I'm just defending Trump, though. I wasn't very happy about Pence as the VP but I had to pick my poison - I certainly wasn't gonna vote Hillary. - My thing, is that I let the VP effect my decision back in 08 with McCain, and I vowed not to let that happen again. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 3:46:27 PM #106: |
And with regards to the topic: I'm just saying I hope these people get sued. Regardless of outcome, it will cost people money, and negative press, so maybe they change their mind.
I just think, in the land of the free, a person shouldn't be discriminated against for his/her political beliefs. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 3:47:13 PM #107: |
Caution999 posted...
And with regards to the topic: I'm just saying I hope these people get sued. Regardless of outcome, it will cost people money, and negative press, so maybe they change their mind. They won't because it's not discrimination Also being a Trump supporter isn't a protected class --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scoobydoobydont 06/08/17 3:50:06 PM #108: |
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 3:50:24 PM #109: |
scoobydoobydont posted...
Fair, next. To be pro-Trump is to be anti-LGBQT, period. --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 3:50:25 PM #110: |
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things
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TheVipaGTS 06/08/17 3:50:28 PM #111: |
-Gavirulax- posted...
Caution999 posted...I love how I'M the crazy one, but the people who are saying aligning yourself with Trump is like a Jew loving Hitler are perfectly level-headed. They only end badly because the person receiving the comparison fails to understands it. It's not being used as a direct comparison. It's being used to illustrate a point. It's supposed to be extreme. It's exaggerated to help paint a better picture of something similar on a smaller level. In this case, supporting trump and his admin in context of the pride parade is supporting something directly against your best interest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 3:51:51 PM #112: |
scoobydoobydont posted...
Fair, next. To be pro-Trump is to be anti-LGBQT, period. That's absurd! I'm pro LGBQT period. It's a free country and you should be allowed to do what you want. I may not agree with it(or parts of that 'alliance'), but I don't support anything that effectively blocks their freedom. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 3:51:57 PM #113: |
Caution999 posted...
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. FTFY Don't know why you left that important part out --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 06/08/17 3:52:09 PM #114: |
Caution999 posted...
I'm just saying I hope these people get sued. Regardless of outcome, it will cost people money Yes it will - it will cost the plaintiffs money when they move forward with a lawsuit that gets laughed out of court. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 3:52:39 PM #115: |
Caution999 posted...
scoobydoobydont posted...Fair, next. To be pro-Trump is to be anti-LGBQT, period. Pro LGBTQ but support an anti LGBTQ regime Lol okay --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 3:53:23 PM #116: |
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Caution999 posted...the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. Doesn't mean it excludes discrimination based on another belief. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 06/08/17 3:54:09 PM #117: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
_Near_ posted...But we know because of polling and statistical data that people of color in America have been, traditionally, more religious and less accepting of homosexuality than white people. It's interesting how when you're backed into a corner, you rail against some amorphous leftist agenda. Actually, it isn't interesting - its incredibly dull and predictable. You're a joke. --- http://i.imgur.com/QoIYepz.gif Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AugustAdoulin 06/08/17 3:54:10 PM #118: |
for a republican caution999 is very gay friendly, I'll give him that. :v If the rest of them could be more like him the party might be able to get some favor from the gay community. That is a long ways off though.
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Antifar 06/08/17 3:54:18 PM #119: |
Caution999 posted...
I may not agree with it(or parts of that 'alliance'), but I don't support anything that effectively blocks their freedom. Except for the president. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 3:55:39 PM #120: |
Caution999 posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Caution999 posted...the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. Nope, but it still implies that those three things are more important than what you're claiming Also, still doesn't matter as being a Trump supporter isn't a protected class --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 3:56:18 PM #121: |
Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...I may not agree with it(or parts of that 'alliance'), but I don't support anything that effectively blocks their freedom. So, you cannot support Trump and LGBTQ's at the same time? I guess my existence is causing a paradox in this universe then. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 3:57:25 PM #122: |
Caution999 posted...
Antifar posted...Caution999 posted...I may not agree with it(or parts of that 'alliance'), but I don't support anything that effectively blocks their freedom. You can in the same way you can revere cows but still eat cheeseburgers It just makes you look extremely stupid --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 06/08/17 4:01:20 PM #123: |
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Caution999 posted...Antifar posted... No, it just makes you look extremely ignorant for making ridiculous comparisons that don't have any foundation in reality. --- woof ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 06/08/17 4:02:22 PM #125: |
_Near_ posted...
DifferentialEquation posted..._Near_ posted...But we know because of polling and statistical data that people of color in America have been, traditionally, more religious and less accepting of homosexuality than white people. Any time anyone on the right has brought up statistical data that suggests any kind of negative trend in minority groups, the left immediately starts crying racism. But when the left brings up it to virtue signal to other "marginalized groups" it all of a sudden becomes acceptable. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 06/08/17 4:06:27 PM #128: |
According to the left all gay people have to be extremely far left or that's equivalent to being a Jew for Nazis, thinking of cows as sacred and eating cheeseburgers, or being a literal cuck.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:07:16 PM #129: |
Howl posted...
According to the left all gay people have to be extremely far left or that's equivalent to being a Jew for Nazis, thinking of cows as sacred and eating cheeseburgers, or being a literal cuck. Nope, nobody thinks this The entire argument itt is that if you support Trumps regime, and also claim to support the LGBT community, you're either dumb, or a liar --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:07:56 PM #130: |
Literally "I support the LGBT but I also support the ones who want to shock them until they're not gay"
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D34D5P4C3 06/08/17 4:07:59 PM #131: |
So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people?
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Howl 06/08/17 4:08:48 PM #132: |
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Howl posted...According to the left all gay people have to be extremely far left or that's equivalent to being a Jew for Nazis, thinking of cows as sacred and eating cheeseburgers, or being a literal cuck. That's literally the words you used. --- woof ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:08:55 PM #133: |
D34D5P4C3 posted...
So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? What would you call a vegetarian that eats meat? --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 06/08/17 4:09:02 PM #134: |
Given the contents of the Republican platform, yes.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:10:23 PM #135: |
Howl posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Howl posted...According to the left all gay people have to be extremely far left or that's equivalent to being a Jew for Nazis, thinking of cows as sacred and eating cheeseburgers, or being a literal cuck. No it's not, it's words that I used being rephrased into nonsense. I never said that they have to extremely far left or even left at all. I never said they have to be like "A Jew for Nazis" I did say the cheeseburger and cuck one though, yeah, because they make sense given the context of the current political ideology of the republican part and their attitude towards gay people. --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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D34D5P4C3 06/08/17 4:11:33 PM #136: |
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
D34D5P4C3 posted...So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? Sorry I don't think awful analogies are good arguments for literally thinking that gay people are dumb or lying if they don't support your candidate of choice. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 06/08/17 4:12:12 PM #137: |
D34D5P4C3 posted...
So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? They can support him if they want. If they love his other policies have at it. The point being made is that when it comes to LGBT issues his admin is against them. So in the context of a pride event that is supposed to focus primarily on LGBT pride and rights, supporting Trump makes no sense. Are they going to have a float praising his financial policy during a pride parade? I doubt it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:12:35 PM #138: |
D34D5P4C3 posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...D34D5P4C3 posted...So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? It doesn't matter which analogy I used. You'd still call them terrible because you have no argument as to why someone would support a regime that hates them and actually wants to hurt them --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 06/08/17 4:12:35 PM #139: |
But someone whose (apparent) existence is anathema to the positions of theocrats enabling said theocrats certainly qualifies as dumb or lying.
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_Near_ 06/08/17 4:15:49 PM #140: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
_Near_ posted...DifferentialEquation posted..._Near_ posted...But we know because of polling and statistical data that people of color in America have been, traditionally, more religious and less accepting of homosexuality than white people. This isn't reality. You're taking the shitty little spats that you've had with Trolls on CE and assigning them "left" and "right". Lots of people here on both sides fail to understand statistical data in the first place, least of all know how to apply it. Your generalizations gets us nowhere because you put forth whatever narrative you want based on anecdotal experience. --- http://i.imgur.com/QoIYepz.gif Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 06/08/17 4:17:36 PM #141: |
D34D5P4C3 posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...D34D5P4C3 posted...So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? You know there's a difference between ostracizing someone because they don't support someone you do and doing so because they support Trump, right? --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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D34D5P4C3 06/08/17 4:19:03 PM #142: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
D34D5P4C3 posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...D34D5P4C3 posted...So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? Which is? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:21:58 PM #143: |
D34D5P4C3 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...D34D5P4C3 posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...D34D5P4C3 posted...So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? The difference is literally in the post you just quoted Holy shit this can't be real --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 06/08/17 4:23:39 PM #144: |
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/06/trump-will-honor-pride-month-today-speaking-anti-lgbt-conference/amp/
The man is anti lgbt. This isn't the same as sanders supporters hosting the parade and barring Hillary supporters from attending. --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:25:23 PM #145: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/06/trump-will-honor-pride-month-today-speaking-anti-lgbt-conference/amp/ No, he totally supports LGBT And regardless, if a gay person supports someone who actually hates them, it makes perfect sense because... uh... well reason. Yeah that's why --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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D34D5P4C3 06/08/17 4:25:52 PM #146: |
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
D34D5P4C3 posted...FrisbeeDude posted...D34D5P4C3 posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...D34D5P4C3 posted...So you think gay people can't support trump without being liars or dumb people? So what was the difference exactly? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/08/17 4:26:38 PM #147: |
I would like to set up a gofundme to give D34D5P4C3 the help he needs
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TheVipaGTS 06/08/17 4:39:16 PM #148: |
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/06/trump-will-honor-pride-month-today-speaking-anti-lgbt-conference/amp/ There is a difference between supporting and simply not caring. He doesn't care. They just exist to him. He won't go out of his way to help them and the people around would go out of their way to hurt them while he just sits back doing nothing to stop them. Because he simply doesn't care. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 4:41:47 PM #149: |
Would your opinion change if the organizers of this parade said that "blue eyed" people are not allowed to attend?
Would it then become discrimination? --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 06/08/17 4:45:20 PM #150: |
Caution999 posted...
Would your opinion change if the organizers of this parade said that "blue eyed" people are not allowed to attend? For someone who is bitching about terrible analogies ITT that sure is a stupid argument....then again it is Caution so... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 06/08/17 4:45:55 PM #151: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Caution999 posted...Would your opinion change if the organizers of this parade said that "blue eyed" people are not allowed to attend? Answer the question. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/08/17 4:47:38 PM #152: |
1) blue eyes are something a person can't change (well, I suppose there are those colored contacts now?)
2) Trump voters have not been barred from attending. 3) Context is a thing. X is not Y. Blue eyes and support for Donald Trump are not analogous. They get treated differently for the same reason dogs and sports cars are treated differently. In short: excluding people on the basis of their eye color would be needlessly discriminatory in a way that preventing a political float in a political parade is not. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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