Current Events > How is it that Japan almost never experiences terror attacks?

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They dont allow illegal immigration
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Racial and cultural homogeneity.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

The original poem was just a poem, people who advocate for open borders use that famouse line you quoted as a justification for their beliefs.

I'm sorry, the smell of bullshit is so dizzying I kinda lost track.

Are you saying the poem we chose to stamp at the base of the most recognizable American symbol does NOT reflect American ideals?
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Wherethisfeom posted...

Not any more than countries like the UK

Yes, more. They also have a tendency to get false confessions from innocent people. Their justice system has some issues...
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SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

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refmon posted...

SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

This is a pretty entertaining notion but it's not quite accurate. China and Indonesia are examples of countries with a lot of Muslims and they're rarely targeted either.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

Yes. China too...China even has its own Communities of Muslim areas.

Yes and china has issues with Islamic terrorism

The Uyghurs I believe
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The Deadpool posted...

KamenRiderBlade posted...

The original poem was just a poem, people who advocate for open borders use that famouse line you quoted as a justification for their beliefs.

I'm sorry, the smell of bullshit is so dizzying I kinda lost track.

Are you saying the poem we chose to stamp at the base of the most recognizable American symbol does NOT reflect American ideals?

The Star-Spangled Banner, America's national anthem, has this verse:
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'

Which subsequently became our country's official motto some 60~ years ago.

I'm sure you'll come up with a double-standard as to why a poem on the SoL is legitimate, but how the national anthem and every other instance where the referencing of the Christian God can be found, is somehow not representative of the country.

HiddenRoar posted...

The Deadpool posted...

KamenRiderBlade posted...

The original poem was just a poem, people who advocate for open borders use that famouse line you quoted as a justification for their beliefs.

I'm sorry, the smell of bulls*** is so dizzying I kinda lost track.

Are you saying the poem we chose to stamp at the base of the most recognizable American symbol does NOT reflect American ideals?

The Star-Spangled Banner, America's national anthem, has this verse:
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'

Which subsequently became our country's official motto some 60~ years ago.

I'm sure you'll come up with a double-standard as to why a poem on the SoL is legitimate, but how the national anthem and every other instance where the referencing of the Christian God can be found, is somehow not representative of the country.

Probably has a lot to do with our country being founded by and being open to immigrants which justifies the legitimacy of the Statue whereas the separation of church and state has a lot to do with why the country isn't actually a theocracy.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack

The Deadpool posted...

I'm sorry, the smell of bullshit is so dizzying I kinda lost track.

Are you saying the poem we chose to stamp at the base of the most recognizable American symbol does NOT reflect American ideals?

It's just a poem, somebody chose to hijack it later as justification for their political cause.
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HiddenRoar posted...

The Star-Spangled Banner, America's national anthem, has this verse:
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'

Which subsequently became our country's official motto some 60~ years ago.

I'm sure you'll come up with a double-standard as to why a poem on the SoL is legitimate, but how the national anthem and every other instance where the referencing of the Christian God can be found, is somehow not representative of the country.

But it is representative of the US.
The US was founded by a population of people who were Majority Protestant Christian / Minority Catholic.

There's no denying that, that's historical fact.
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SoundNetwork posted...

Japan doesnt impose itself in the middle east

They literally cant
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J E S U S posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

Yes. China too...China even has its own Communities of Muslim areas.

Yes and china has issues with Islamic terrorism

The Uyghurs I believe

Doesn't China deliberately stir shit up with them and the Tibetans to destabilize both?
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Because "stranger danger" is engrained in their culture
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HiddenRoar posted...

The Star-Spangled Banner, America's national anthem, has this verse:
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'

Was this some sort of "gotcha" moment? What exactly are you trying to prove?

KamenRiderBlade posted...

It's just a poem, somebody chose to hijack it later as justification for their political cause.

Wait wait wait, are you arguing people are misinterpreting New Colossus?
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The Deadpool posted...

Wait wait wait, are you arguing people are misinterpreting New Colossus?

People are using it as a justification for their political Ideology when the entire concept of that poem and the SoL wasn't meant for that.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Awesome posted...

SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

yes and the government says they keep tabs on them and spy on them to make sure they wont blow anybody up. fortunately for their citizens the government has their best interests for them instead of letting things happen in fear of sounding racist or xenophobic.

how many people have they arrested or gotten rid of because of this?

No way to know for sure because the government censors things very hard in China. Additionally, if some shit goes down, people only are gotten rid of if the government can't cover it up.

Some people got put on the chopping block a few years ago when a mudslide caused by poor excavation management killed like 100 people.

If America was China, I imagine that the flint water problem would see all kinds of government officials being publicly executed.
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SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

Afaik, Japan is very unlikely to let Muslims live in japan, and those who do live there have lots of restrictions. Also, in Japan there's like overall 40-70k muslims. I have heard someone claiming that it might be less than 10k idk. They are only allowed to do their religion in their own homes or the few mosques. Hell, i would imagine that preaching through megaphone in jP gets you in prison, or even get you thrown out, unless you are 100% Japanese.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Awesome posted...

SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

yes and the government says they keep tabs on them and spy on them to make sure they wont blow anybody up. fortunately for their citizens the government has their best interests for them instead of letting things happen in fear of sounding racist or xenophobic.

how many people have they arrested or gotten rid of because of this?

No way to know for sure because the government censors things very hard in China. Additionally, if some shit goes down, people only are gotten rid of if the government can't cover it up.

Some people got put on the chopping block a few years ago when a mudslide caused by poor excavation management killed like 100 people.

If America was China, I imagine that the flint water problem would see all kinds of government officials being publicly executed.

China and Japan are two massively different beasts. I mean China can actually threaten countries for one lol
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

The Deadpool posted...

Wait wait wait, are you arguing people are misinterpreting New Colossus?

People are using it as a justification for their political Ideology when the entire concept of that poem and the SoL wasn't meant for that.

New Colossus, the poem that ends with:

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Is being incorrectly interpreted?

What's the "correct" interpretation?
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The Deadpool posted...

New Colossus, the poem that ends with:

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Is being incorrectly interpreted?

What's the "correct" interpretation?

https://qz.com/898486/give-me-your-tired-your-poor-the-statue-of-libertys-unexpected-transformation-into-a-beacon-for-refugees-and-immigrants/

These lines were published in 1883 as part of efforts to fund-raise for the statue%u2019s completion.
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In 1865, French abolitionist Edouard de Laboulaye proposed the construction of a monument for the US to mark the end of the US civil war and institutionalized slavery. To de Laboulaye, the end of American slavery was the last step in the US becoming a beacon of democracy to the world, explains George Tselos, head archivist for the statue and neighboring Ellis Island.

But Laboulaye did not include a pedestal in his gift, and the US government struggled to raise funds to mount the new statue. In 1883, New York artists held an auction to raise money for the statue, commissioning poetry for their exhibition catalog. One of their poets was Emma Lazarus, an upperclass Jewish New Yorker.

Lazarus conjured her own myth for the monument: She imagined the statue as a goddess called the Mother of Exiles, who welcomes the poor and tired looking for freedom, guiding the way with her lamp. Lazarus was devoted to the cause of Russian-Jewish refugees, and felt strongly that the settled and more established Jews in the US had a responsibility to help downtrodden newcomers.

That was just Emma Lazarus' personal interpretation of what the Statue meant.
Originally, The "Statue of Liberty" was commissioned for a different purpose than what she wanted.

The "Statue of Liberty" was originally mean to symbolize:
1) America being a beacon of Democracy
2) Mark the end of the Civil War / Institutionalized Slavery
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

That was just Emma Lazarus' personal interpretation of what the Statue meant.

Which we then etched onto the statue ourselves.

But good, you admit the meaning of the poem isn't being misrepresented. Are you arguing it wasn't an American ideal? Back when we decided it was a good idea to etch it into our most recognizable symbol?
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The Deadpool posted...

Which we then etched onto the statue ourselves.

But good, you admit the meaning of the poem isn't being misrepresented. Are you arguing it wasn't an American ideal? Back when we decided it was a good idea to etch it into our most recognizable symbol?

https://qz.com/898486/give-me-your-tired-your-poor-the-statue-of-libertys-unexpected-transformation-into-a-beacon-for-refugees-and-immigrants/

But Lazarus died a year after the statue was completed, and the poem fell into obscurity. Only 20 years later, thanks to the lobbying of Georgina Schuyler, an art patron and Lazarus’s friend, was the poem inscribed on a memorial plaque and placed at the foot of the statue.

1) It was Lazarus' personal interpretation, that's all. She had a personal devotion to helping Jewish refugees, that's her thing; whatever.
2) An Art Patron wanted to memorialize Emma Lazrus' poem for the world to see, the Bureaucracy managing the Statue of Liberty obviously didn't see anything wrong with it since it was the Artists who helped raised funds for paying for the Statue base. So they granted her poem to be written on the plaque.

People chose to ascribe it meaning to their personal beliefs / ideology / causes later on.

The purpose of the Statue was a monmument to US Democracy / End of Slavery.

That's the original meaning.

Any other meaning you derive from Emma Lazurus' plaque / poem is on the user to interpret.

Just like any art, it's all up to the person on how they choose to interpret it.

The original meaning for the "Statue of Liberty" is something else entirely.

As far as "American Ideals", it's going to vary person to person.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

People chose to ascribe it meaning

By "People" you mean "The American People". Like "The People who pick what American ideals are."

It's funny how you turn on American ideals as soon as you don't like them. American conservatives are so used to doing that with religion they don't even notice it anymore...
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The Deadpool posted...

By "People" you mean "The American People". Like "The People who pick what American ideals are."

It's funny how you turn on American ideals as soon as you don't like them. American conservatives are so used to doing that with religion they don't even notice it anymore...

Not all of us agree with the poem, there are a giant chunk of the population who doesn't support the meaning of that poem.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Not all of us agree with the poem, there are a giant chunk of the population who doesn't support the meaning of that poem.

Today.

Today there's a bunch of people going against American ideals. It doesn't mean they weren't American ideals.
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The Deadpool posted...

Today.

Today there's a bunch of people going against American ideals. It doesn't mean they weren't American ideals.

American Ideals are vast and wide, and changing depending on who you ask.

Don't prescribe to speak for everybody.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/15/americans-views-of-immigrants-marked-by-widening-partisan-generational-divides/
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

The Deadpool posted...

Today.

Today there's a bunch of people going against American ideals. It doesn't mean they weren't American ideals.

American Ideals are vast and wide, and changing depending on who you ask.

Don't prescribe to speak for everybody.

I'm not speaking for everybody. I know people TODAY don't like our former ideals. But it was still a core American ideal for a century.

You wanna go against that ideal, go for it. But be honest about it.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

If America was China, I imagine that the flint water problem would see all kinds of government officials being publicly executed.

this would be a good thing. corruption needs this kind of punishment.
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Awesome posted...

SanyuQube posted...

Are there any Muslims in Japan?

yes and the government says they keep tabs on them and spy on them to make sure they wont blow anybody up. fortunately for their citizens the government has their best interests for them instead of letting things happen in fear of sounding racist or xenophobic.

racist alert................
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another ignorant snowflake that thinks a religion is racial
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Mostly because no active terrorist organization has any interest in Japan.

^ this is the real reason. LOL at people thinking its tough immigration policies or that Japan has no crime.
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JE19426 posted...

Doe posted...

IIRC Japan is so utopic in regards to crime rates that their police are practically stuck with nothing to do

Nope. The police just cover up crimes.

Of course it's true there is crime in Japan and that the police are rather zealous about their law enforcement tactics, but you are vastly underestimating how relatively crime-free Japan is, if you think it's just a matter of cover-ups. Go live there for a little bit. It's kind of crazy how people keep to themselves and are not violent. I saw a family leave their toddler in a stroller by herself for nearly an hour in a busy area, and nobody worried that the kid would be kidnapped or just messed with. It's not a perfect place by any means, but you will absolutely feel the difference especially if you come from another country with high population and high crime rates.
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When you are culturally, ethnically homogenous and don't let outside influences corrupt your society; you tend to have a very peaceful society.
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As has been mentioned sometimes already, Japan had a couple of sarin gas attacks at the same time in the subway. This was in the 90s, and hundreds if not thousands of people were injured so that they still have issues today. The attack was performed by a religious sect, and they had done a test attack a couple of years earlier.
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ModLogic posted...

another ignorant snowflake that thinks a religion is racial

just parodying people like you, dude
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wow i got modded for that
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SGT_Conti posted...

Etherealfare posted...

Japan has no military due to the end of WWII. How could they 'impose themselves' on the Middle East? wat

How do you make this post immediately after I posted about the SDF and a deployment to Iraq? It wasn't an especially large deployment, but they were there in the Middle-East.

I make the post because it's the fucking truth. Japan has no fucking military, lmao. The US keeps a base on Okinawa and Nagasaki and protects them.
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Etherealfare posted...

SGT_Conti posted...

Etherealfare posted...

Japan has no military due to the end of WWII. How could they 'impose themselves' on the Middle East? wat

How do you make this post immediately after I posted about the SDF and a deployment to Iraq? It wasn't an especially large deployment, but they were there in the Middle-East.

I make the post because it's the fucking truth. Japan has no fucking military, lmao. The US keeps a base on Okinawa and Nagasaki and protects them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Self-Defense_Forces

Stop posting
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/world/asia/japan-constitution-shinzo-abe-military.html

Time for them to wake out of their Pacifist non-sense and become the great Warriors that we know they're capable of being.
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They have harsh rules on who they let into the country.

I think this is a misdirected question because, unless I'm mistaken, most countries avoid terrorist attacks.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

If America was China, I imagine that the flint water problem would see all kinds of government officials being publicly executed.

Except China has tons of their very own water problems that are actually worse than Flint and no one has died.
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AcFan87 posted...

They have harsh rules on who they let into the country.

That really worked well to prevent the Aum Shinrikyo people from gasing subway trans during rush hour, didn't it?
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scar the 1 posted...

As has been mentioned sometimes already, Japan had a couple of sarin gas attacks at the same time in the subway. This was in the 90s, and hundreds if not thousands of people were injured so that they still have issues today. The attack was performed by a religious sect, and they had done a test attack a couple of years earlier.

It's also why there are no trash cans anywhere.
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Muflaggin posted...

scar the 1 posted...

As has been mentioned sometimes already, Japan had a couple of sarin gas attacks at the same time in the subway. This was in the 90s, and hundreds if not thousands of people were injured so that they still have issues today. The attack was performed by a religious sect, and they had done a test attack a couple of years earlier.

It's also why there are no trash cans anywhere.

Did you read the Haruki Murakami book about the attacks? It's a compilation of interviews with victims, really really interesting. His synthesis in the end is typical Murakami stuff, but even if you're not into that, the accounts are interesting to read on their own. He did a follow-up with interviews of some Aum Shinrikyo members, which I haven't read through completely yet. It was also interesting, but a bit less so.
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Cause all terrorists are secretly huge fucking weebs and don't want to interfere with anime production.
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