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averagejoel
06/01/17 11:36:49 PM
#51:


JerickoX posted...
frozenshock posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Paxton#Fascism


Ironically enough, the five stages of fascism could be used to illustrate Obama's presidency to a T. Paxton' s suggestion of fascism as a conservative ideology is suggestive at best. There is no evidence within his argument that actually supports the claim.


it might come as a surprise to you, but the US is historically very sympathetic towards fascism
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JerickoX
06/01/17 11:56:45 PM
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JE19426 posted...
JerickoX posted...
. You can absolutely be a communist/socialst and also be Facist. Just look at Russia, China, and Venezuela. Greed and power is not exclusive to partisan groups.


You really think Russia is communist or socialist?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_Russia

The foundation of the modern Russian government is inherently communist. Today it may not appeaer that way, but many russian citizens identify as communist. Case and point, communism tranformed into a fascist dictatorship. In the cases of Nazis, China, North Korea, Venezuela, and the Soviets, the government is absolute overlord.
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JerickoX
06/01/17 11:59:33 PM
#53:


averagejoel posted...
JerickoX posted...
frozenshock posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Paxton#Fascism


Ironically enough, the five stages of fascism could be used to illustrate Obama's presidency to a T. Paxton' s suggestion of fascism as a conservative ideology is suggestive at best. There is no evidence within his argument that actually supports the claim.


it might come as a surprise to you, but the US is historically very sympathetic towards fascism


Since when, in the history of the United States, was a single party granted absolute control? There have always been checks and balances, there have always been fair trials, and there will always be a three-tiered constitutional paradigm. Out with your bogus claims.
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Bluster
06/02/17 12:01:06 AM
#54:


JerickoX posted...
averagejoel posted...
JerickoX posted...
frozenshock posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Paxton#Fascism


Ironically enough, the five stages of fascism could be used to illustrate Obama's presidency to a T. Paxton' s suggestion of fascism as a conservative ideology is suggestive at best. There is no evidence within his argument that actually supports the claim.


it might come as a surprise to you, but the US is historically very sympathetic towards fascism


Since when, in the history of the United States, was a single party granted absolute control? There have always been checks and balances, there have always been fair trials, and there will always be a three-tiered constitutional paradigm. Out with your bogus claims.

you're so thick holy shit

go look up all the coups the CIA committed during the cold war to depose democracies and put dictatorships in charge
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JerickoX
06/02/17 12:09:44 AM
#55:


Bluster posted...
JerickoX posted...
averagejoel posted...
JerickoX posted...
frozenshock posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Paxton#Fascism


Ironically enough, the five stages of fascism could be used to illustrate Obama's presidency to a T. Paxton' s suggestion of fascism as a conservative ideology is suggestive at best. There is no evidence within his argument that actually supports the claim.


it might come as a surprise to you, but the US is historically very sympathetic towards fascism


Since when, in the history of the United States, was a single party granted absolute control? There have always been checks and balances, there have always been fair trials, and there will always be a three-tiered constitutional paradigm. Out with your bogus claims.

you're so thick holy shit

go look up all the coups the CIA committed during the cold war to depose democracies and put dictatorships in charge


Now you're gambling with conspiracy theories? As if the CIA would commit acts that endorse your hatred of the government. That's the best you can do? Might as well argue that the U.N. hosts child sex slave rings, or that aliens built the pyramids.

The Soviet Union failed because of generational infighting between nations who already hated each other. Democracy fails, and transforms into dictorships because human nature encourages leaders to rule with power and fear. The general population are born and bread on the hatred of their ancestors, not humane diplomacy.
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Bluster
06/02/17 12:10:21 AM
#56:


JerickoX posted...
Now you're gambling with conspiracy theories?

FUCK I FELL FOR THE TROLL GUYS
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DarkChozoGhost
06/02/17 12:14:41 AM
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Really? What are you not grasping?

Authoritarianism is not inherently right or left. Fascism is specifically right wing authoritarianism. Communism is left wing authoritarianism. Hitler was right wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a communist. Stalin was left wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a fascist.

Fascism has always been defined that way.
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JerickoX
06/02/17 12:15:39 AM
#58:


Bluster posted...
JerickoX posted...
Now you're gambling with conspiracy theories?

FUCK I FELL FOR THE TROLL GUYS


You're the one freaking out here. Provide a link that proves your exact statement: the unit states' central intelligence agency, led coups to remove democracy, and install a dictatorship during the cold war. If anything, cia coups are designed to destroy hostile dictatorships, such as in Lybia, Iraq, and now Syria. We are and always have been against dictatorships, from my understanding.
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JerickoX
06/02/17 12:16:34 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Really? What are you not grasping?

Authoritarianism is not inherently right or left. Fascism is specifically right wing authoritarianism. Communism is left wing authoritarianism. Hitler was right wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a communist. Stalin was left wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a fascist.

Fascism has always been defined that way.


No, no it has not. I think you need to stop sipping the liberal coolaid.
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DarkChozoGhost
06/02/17 12:17:37 AM
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Reread the middle stanza of my post
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Bluster
06/02/17 12:24:46 AM
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JerickoX posted...
he unit states' central intelligence agency, led coups to remove democracy, and install a dictatorship during the cold war.

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_backed_international_crime_partner/

Note that all the things listed in that article have been declassified by the CIA.
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averagejoel
06/02/17 12:30:18 AM
#62:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
Really? What are you not grasping?

Authoritarianism is not inherently right or left. Fascism is specifically right wing authoritarianism. Communism is left wing authoritarianism. Hitler was right wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a communist. Stalin was left wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a fascist.

Fascism has always been defined that way.


while I agree with the general gist of what you're saying, there are two big things that you're wrong about:

1. Communism is not authoritarian - the final stage of marxism is a stateless society

2. Stalin tried to resign 4 times, but people didn't want him to
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frozenshock
06/02/17 3:30:03 PM
#63:


JerickoX posted...
frozenshock posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Paxton#Fascism


Ironically enough, the five stages of fascism could be used to illustrate Obama's presidency to a T. Paxton' s suggestion of fascism as a conservative ideology is suggestive at best. There is no evidence within his argument that actually supports the claim.

This is equivalent to putting any weight into Al Gore's "truth." Fear tactics and pop science doesn't make you correct.


Read the part below that when it talks about the definition

Fascism is inherently right wing for the simple reason that extreme nationalism is a central point of any fascist movement. The left wing tends to be more globalist than nationalist. Not to say that far left government are any better than far right, but calling a communist country "fascist" is just incorrect.
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JE19426
06/02/17 3:36:42 PM
#64:


JerickoX posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_Russia

The foundation of the modern Russian government is inherently communist.


You must of linked the wrong source as that one doesn't support this claim at all.

Today it may not appeaer that way, but many russian citizens identify as communist.


And many American citizens identify as communist does that mean the USA is communist?

Case and point, communism tranformed into a fascist dictatorship.


So it isn't communist?

In the cases of Nazis, China, North Korea, Venezuela, and the Soviets, the government is absolute overlord.


Which is different to being fascist.
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frozenshock
06/02/17 3:39:31 PM
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North Korea and China are not fascist.

A fascist movement is like a flash in the pan. Short lived, intensely aggressive, then it goes out in flames. And each stage progresses differently. It's inherently unstable.

North Korea and China simply don't fit the bill. Too stable.
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ROBANN_88
06/02/17 5:41:39 PM
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DeltaRayquaza posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
the way i understand it, fascism isn't really a political wing, as much as it is a modifier of a political wing.

like, there can be Enlightened Monarchy, and Fascist Monarchy.
Democratic Republic, and Fascist Republic

Fascist Right (Hitler) and Fascist Left (Stalin, possibly North Korea)

you're confusing authoritarianism with fascism


i see.
yeah, that's absolutely possible that i don't know the difference.
do you mind explaining it, as if you would explain it to a 10-year old?
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scoobydoobydont
06/02/17 5:47:11 PM
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DiesMortis posted...
Except fascism has always been an extreme right-wing political system


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ChromaticAngel
06/02/17 5:48:25 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
i see.
yeah, that's absolutely possible that i don't know the difference.
do you mind explaining it, as if you would explain it to a 10-year old?


Authoritiarianism = Government has the power to control you
Fascism = They also want to control all private interests and ethnic singularity
Communism = There are no private interests, everything is public, at the most extreme level, even your house is public and the government would foricbly assign you roomates
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Broseph_Stalin
06/02/17 5:59:55 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
yeah, that's absolutely possible that i don't know the difference.
do you mind explaining it, as if you would explain it to a 10-year old?


Right vs left has nothing to do with authoritarianism. You can have two governments (Nazi Germany and the USSR) which are both authoritarian but on opposite ends of the left–right political spectrum.

People on the left are egalitarian, people on the right believe social hierarchies are inevitable or even desirable. That's the only difference. We get these terms from the French Revolution, where liberals sat on the left in the National Assembly and supporters of the church and monarchy sat on the right.

In other words communist and fascist had opposing views on society, they just both used force to implement them. Liberals and conservatives would also have opposing views but lean more towards personal freedom over authoritarianism.
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Mr Sandbag
06/02/17 6:30:43 PM
#70:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
Really? What are you not grasping?

Authoritarianism is not inherently right or left. Fascism is specifically right wing authoritarianism. Communism is left wing authoritarianism. Hitler was right wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a communist. Stalin was left wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a fascist.

Fascism has always been defined that way.


Wow. Holy shit I can't believe I read that and that someone actually thinks that. Hitler was left wing. Right wing is less government. Radical right wingers are anarchists. Learn 2 spectrum.
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JerickoX
06/02/17 6:32:14 PM
#71:


Mr Sandbag posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Really? What are you not grasping?

Authoritarianism is not inherently right or left. Fascism is specifically right wing authoritarianism. Communism is left wing authoritarianism. Hitler was right wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a communist. Stalin was left wing, and a horrible authoritarian, but not a fascist.

Fascism has always been defined that way.


Wow. Holy shit I can't believe I read that and that someone actually thinks that. Hitler was left wing. Right wing is less government. Radical right wingers are anarchists. Learn 2 spectrum.


I know how you feel. This board reminds me of a really loud DNC rally.
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pinky0926
06/02/17 6:34:24 PM
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Is this what rebelling looks like when your life is fine?
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m_mungmung
06/02/17 6:36:43 PM
#73:


JerickoX posted...
First, Google the word fascism, and read the definition for yourself. Do it now.

Then, get your copies of 1984 ready, and hold tight,

fas·cism
noun

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms:authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More

(in general use) extreme griht-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

Yeah. This has encouraged me to try new search engines, because the altering of definitions is about as fascist as one can get. Imo, try Goodgopher. Youll find articles that show coloquial discrimination against fathers, white men, and free thinkers.

Seriously though, this is deplorable.

It seems odd to me, isn't the right more approving of smaller government? How does making smaller government lead to a more oppressive, powerful government?
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JE19426
06/02/17 6:39:37 PM
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m_mungmung posted...
It seems odd to me, isn't the right more approving of smaller government?


No.
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JerickoX
06/02/17 6:40:35 PM
#76:


m_mungmung posted...
JerickoX posted...
First, Google the word fascism, and read the definition for yourself. Do it now.

Then, get your copies of 1984 ready, and hold tight,

fas·cism
noun

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms:authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More

(in general use) extreme griht-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

Yeah. This has encouraged me to try new search engines, because the altering of definitions is about as fascist as one can get. Imo, try Goodgopher. Youll find articles that show coloquial discrimination against fathers, white men, and free thinkers.

Seriously though, this is deplorable.

It seems odd to me, isn't the right more approving of smaller government? How does making smaller government lead to a more oppressive, powerful government?


TBH, if we're arguing that fascism and authoritarianism are two sides of the same coin, then we might as well argue that fascism and authoritarianism are products of the same factors: Greed and Power. Ergo, from where I stand, the only party in the United States currently acting either Fascist or Authoritarian are the Liberal Democrats, especially hollywood.
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ASithLord7
06/02/17 6:41:30 PM
#77:


JerickoX posted...
Greed and Power. From where I stand, the only party in the United States currently acting either Fascist or Authoritarian are the Liberal Democrats.

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Mr Sandbag
06/02/17 6:45:00 PM
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m_mungmung posted...
JerickoX posted...
First, Google the word fascism, and read the definition for yourself. Do it now.

Then, get your copies of 1984 ready, and hold tight,

fas·cism
noun

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms:authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More

(in general use) extreme griht-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

Yeah. This has encouraged me to try new search engines, because the altering of definitions is about as fascist as one can get. Imo, try Goodgopher. Youll find articles that show coloquial discrimination against fathers, white men, and free thinkers.

Seriously though, this is deplorable.

It seems odd to me, isn't the right more approving of smaller government? How does making smaller government lead to a more oppressive, powerful government?


It doesn't. Hence this topic and why fascism is left wing and why google is a globalist piece of shit company hell bent on controlling you.
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JE19426
06/02/17 6:46:20 PM
#80:


Asherlee10 posted...
I believe that is for certain sects of the conservative side.


There's a significant difference between "The right is more approving of smaller government", and "certain sects of the conservative side are more approving of smaller government".
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JerickoX
06/02/17 6:49:50 PM
#81:


Mr Sandbag posted...
m_mungmung posted...
JerickoX posted...
First, Google the word fascism, and read the definition for yourself. Do it now.

Then, get your copies of 1984 ready, and hold tight,

fas·cism
noun

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms:authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More

(in general use) extreme griht-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

Yeah. This has encouraged me to try new search engines, because the altering of definitions is about as fascist as one can get. Imo, try Goodgopher. Youll find articles that show coloquial discrimination against fathers, white men, and free thinkers.

Seriously though, this is deplorable.

It seems odd to me, isn't the right more approving of smaller government? How does making smaller government lead to a more oppressive, powerful government?


It doesn't. Hence this topic and why fascism is left wing and why google is a globalist piece of shit company hell bent on controlling you.


Bingo. Nail-head. You guys really have nowhere left to cuck.
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Kineth
06/02/17 10:44:49 PM
#82:


When y'all are done patting each other on the back, come back to the adult's table.
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Webmaster4531
06/02/17 10:50:59 PM
#83:


JerickoX posted...
Right wingers are fascists.

Fixed that for you.
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JerickoX
06/03/17 3:00:58 AM
#84:


Kineth posted...
When y'all are done patting each other on the back, come back to the adult's table.


The one that does or does not pay child support?
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ThyCorndog
06/03/17 3:11:50 AM
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wasn't fascism created to oppose communism? I dunno how opposing political systems can be the same
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AcFan87
06/03/17 3:11:53 AM
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Basically confirms the left are the true fascists. Not surprising.
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Axiom
06/03/17 3:20:58 AM
#87:


This topic is really ironic considering right wingers are desperate to change the long since established definition of fascism
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UnholyMudcrab
06/03/17 4:22:34 AM
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Nobody seems to have a clue what fascism is, but that sure doesn't stop them from lecturing you anyway.
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Kineth
06/03/17 4:40:58 AM
#89:


JerickoX posted...
Kineth posted...
When y'all are done patting each other on the back, come back to the adult's table.


The one that does or does not pay child support?


I don't have any children so I think you have me confused with somebody that puts up with bullshit.

Axiom posted...
This topic is really ironic considering right wingers are desperate to change the long since established definition of fascism


Nah, it's the exact same thing, but yes they are desperate to deny what they're trying to establish. It sucks because the people arguing against it have no clue what the fuck they're even talking about.
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