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megamanfreakXD
05/26/17 3:35:16 PM
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This is related to that locked topic

I used pokesav back in the day to make my own perfect team (within legal limits) and play the game this way.

It saves the trouble and time to grind
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Shame_Car_2
05/26/17 3:36:31 PM
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there's nothing wrong with it
just keyboard warriors trying to convince you that tauros simulator is skill
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PrinceDBF
05/26/17 3:36:50 PM
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as long as you don't hack illegal move combinations or natures or whatever, it doesn't really make a difference to me.
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Dark_SilverX
05/26/17 3:37:43 PM
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My Pichu knew Ice Beam
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megamanfreakXD
05/26/17 3:38:28 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
My Pichu knew Ice Beam

magikarp knowing explosion

very meme
such explosions
wow
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Calwyn
05/26/17 3:39:11 PM
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As long as they're within the game's legal limits, and as long as you don't try to lie and say they're 100% legit when you're trying to trade them, there's nothing wrong with them. As you said, all it does it save time. That's the way I see it.
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SpiralDrift
05/26/17 3:51:07 PM
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To each their own but I don't think I could be happy with my Pokemon if I knew they weren't "real". It's like the difference between giving birth or picking a random baby out of a vat.
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myztikrice
05/26/17 4:00:52 PM
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Yes, a digital representation of a fictional creature is the same thing as a living human baby
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TapuFini
05/26/17 4:02:41 PM
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myztikrice posted...
Yes, a digital representation of a fictional creature is the same thing as a living human baby

you severely overestimate the maturity of most pokemon players
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Tappor
05/26/17 4:03:02 PM
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Shame_Car_2 posted...
there's nothing wrong with it
just keyboard warriors trying to convince you that tauros simulator is skill

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iosifsvoboda
05/26/17 4:03:30 PM
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Whah whah my 1000 hours are for nothing
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ThePrinceFish
05/26/17 4:06:08 PM
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There's nothing wrong with cheating at single player games if that is something you enjoy.

Taking your unearned Pokemon online is pretty lame though.
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weapon_d00d816
05/26/17 4:08:38 PM
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I personally think it defeats the entire purpose of a game about searching and random chance. Can't see it being fun unless you're done with the game and dicking around.
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SpiralDrift
05/26/17 4:10:32 PM
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myztikrice posted...
Yes, a digital representation of a fictional creature is the same thing as a living human baby

You understand.
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GiftedACIII
05/26/17 7:48:52 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
To each their own but I don't think I could be happy with my Pokemon if I knew they weren't "real". It's like the difference between giving birth or picking a random baby out of a vat.

Unless it's impossible/illegal, it's literally the same thing though. Random numbers spontaneously generated.

And your analogy seems opposite imo. Editing in all the details using Pkhex or something seems more like giving birth while randomly encountering a set of numbers with the random number generator ingame seems more like picking a random baby out of a vat.
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Puglia77
05/26/17 8:03:57 PM
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Nothing. I'm a hacker myself. Hacking is such an ingrained part of competitive battling that no one really cares about that anymore.

Now, if you're talking about hacking event Pokemon, that's a different story. Even though I'm a hacker, I'm against trading hacked event Pokemon since it's so easy to spread through the event collector community and it's not a legit event obtained from the legit source.
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Kafkaf
05/27/17 5:45:54 PM
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I wouldnt do it if EVs and IVs had in game numbers
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TheLazyChampion
05/27/17 5:50:22 PM
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TC, why do I have you tagged as Apache?
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SpiralDrift
05/27/17 10:04:05 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
To each their own but I don't think I could be happy with my Pokemon if I knew they weren't "real". It's like the difference between giving birth or picking a random baby out of a vat.

Unless it's impossible/illegal, it's literally the same thing though. Random numbers spontaneously generated.

And your analogy seems opposite imo. Editing in all the details using Pkhex or something seems more like giving birth while randomly encountering a set of numbers with the random number generator ingame seems more like picking a random baby out of a vat.

I should have said "genetically engineered super baby, perfect in every way but with none of your DNA" pulled from a vat. In other words you can make a perfect baby but if it's not really yours there's less of a connection. On the other hand you can do it the hard way and they may be flawed, but their flaws add depth to your relationship with them.
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Kafkaf
05/27/17 10:06:11 PM
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That's like saying adopted children arent real children
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SpiralDrift
05/27/17 10:09:15 PM
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Kafkaf posted...
That's like saying adopted children arent real children

You missed the comparison to genetic engineering. Care to address that?
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Darklit_Minuet
05/27/17 10:10:51 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
Kafkaf posted...
That's like saying adopted children arent real children

You missed the comparison to genetic engineering. Care to address that?

Are genetically engineered children any less real? They're still children
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GiftedACIII
05/27/17 10:14:45 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
To each their own but I don't think I could be happy with my Pokemon if I knew they weren't "real". It's like the difference between giving birth or picking a random baby out of a vat.

Unless it's impossible/illegal, it's literally the same thing though. Random numbers spontaneously generated.

And your analogy seems opposite imo. Editing in all the details using Pkhex or something seems more like giving birth while randomly encountering a set of numbers with the random number generator ingame seems more like picking a random baby out of a vat.

I should have said "genetically engineered super baby, perfect in every way but with none of your DNA" pulled from a vat. In other words you can make a perfect baby but if it's not really yours there's less of a connection. On the other hand you can do it the hard way and they may be flawed, but their flaws add depth to your relationship with them.

I actually feel closer to my pkhexed mons then I do random wild mons with no editing. I usually just edit my wild mons into having the right natures and hidden ability. I mean, EV training and Pokemon Refresh are the only things that connect you more to a Pokemon and you can do the same with a hexed mon. Natures and hidden ability can't be changed which is dumb and flies in the face of the "you can do anything if you try" optimistic mindset so this is to compensate for that.
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SpiralDrift
05/27/17 10:26:56 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Kafkaf posted...
That's like saying adopted children arent real children

You missed the comparison to genetic engineering. Care to address that?

Are genetically engineered children any less real? They're still children

Let's say you can eliminate any flaws that you might not want to deal with in them. You can make them exactly to your specification so you'll never have a problem with them and they'll be basically perfect, by your definition. The question arises whether they're even a separate thing then or just an extension of your will.

If on the other hand none of that was in your control, they would be more their own thing and you would be forced to adapt to them. This is more difficult and they'll never be perfect in your eyes but it's more true to real life.
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GiftedACIII
05/27/17 10:41:00 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Kafkaf posted...
That's like saying adopted children arent real children

You missed the comparison to genetic engineering. Care to address that?

Are genetically engineered children any less real? They're still children

Let's say you can eliminate any flaws that you might not want to deal with in them. You can make them exactly to your specification so you'll never have a problem with them and they'll be basically perfect, by your definition. The question arises whether they're even a separate thing then or just an extension of your will.

If on the other hand none of that was in your control, they would be more their own thing and you would be forced to adapt to them. This is more difficult and they'll never be perfect in your eyes but it's more true to real life.

I'm sure most people including children would jump at the opportunity to be immediately enhanced if given the option.
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SpiralDrift
05/27/17 10:52:24 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Kafkaf posted...
That's like saying adopted children arent real children

You missed the comparison to genetic engineering. Care to address that?

Are genetically engineered children any less real? They're still children

Let's say you can eliminate any flaws that you might not want to deal with in them. You can make them exactly to your specification so you'll never have a problem with them and they'll be basically perfect, by your definition. The question arises whether they're even a separate thing then or just an extension of your will.

If on the other hand none of that was in your control, they would be more their own thing and you would be forced to adapt to them. This is more difficult and they'll never be perfect in your eyes but it's more true to real life.

I'm sure most people including children would jump at the opportunity to be immediately enhanced if given the option.

Yes, but as individuals with their own interests in mind.
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ClockworkHare
05/27/17 11:14:55 PM
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rofl @ pokemon purists

it's a kids game
And competitive 12 year olds have been using cheat methods to speed up raising perfect mons since the 90s.
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DrizztLink
05/27/17 11:16:12 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
Kafkaf posted...
That's like saying adopted children arent real children

You missed the comparison to genetic engineering. Care to address that?

Are genetically engineered children any less real? They're still children

Let's say you can eliminate any flaws that you might not want to deal with in them. You can make them exactly to your specification so you'll never have a problem with them and they'll be basically perfect, by your definition. The question arises whether they're even a separate thing then or just an extension of your will.

If on the other hand none of that was in your control, they would be more their own thing and you would be forced to adapt to them. This is more difficult and they'll never be perfect in your eyes but it's more true to real life.

I'm sure most people including children would jump at the opportunity to be immediately enhanced if given the option.

Yes, but as individuals with their own interests in mind.

So all we're doing is giving them what they want before they even realize they want it.
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SpiralDrift
05/27/17 11:18:47 PM
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Look, you guys can do what you want. I don't really have a problem with it. I just prefer the more real world good/bad relationship I get with randomly generated Pokemon.
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Spidey5
05/27/17 11:38:36 PM
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You dorks are bringing up adopted babies versus your own babies in a topic about Pokemon hacking. Just wanted to bring this to your attention.
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ViewtifulGrave
05/27/17 11:47:14 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Editing in all the details using Pkhex or something seems more like giving birth

How???

Nobody edits their unborn children.
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GiftedACIII
05/28/17 12:00:22 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Editing in all the details using Pkhex or something seems more like giving birth

How???

Nobody edits their unborn children.

It's more like creating your own personal Pokemon rather than just encountering it randomly.
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