Current Events > possibly a suicide bomber according to CNN

(+) Yeah! (+)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/europe/live-blog-manchester-arena/index.html

Already highly suspected but still lots of push back from certain users, sigh
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EvoTech posted...

Already highly suspected but still lots of push back from certain users, sigh

remember that time @The_Admiral (apologies if im misremembering here) was so cocksure it was BLM that iced some cops in NY when it reality is was just some crazy not black dudes?

thats why assuming is stupid
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People still use CNN as some sort of authoritative source for reporting/confirming news?
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Possibly the missing plane, too. It's just conjecture at this point
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EnragedSlith posted...

Possibly the missing plane, too. It's just conjecture at this point

wow

ManSpread posted...

EvoTech posted...

Already highly suspected but still lots of push back from certain users, sigh

remember that time @The_Admiral (apologies if im misremembering here) was so cocksure it was BLM that iced some cops in NY when it reality is was just some crazy not black dudes?

thats why assuming is stupid

But pushing a political agenda right now is the only thing that matters.

Mr_MacPhisto posted...

People still use CNN as some sort of authoritative source for reporting/confirming news?

Despite Prima Donald's butthurt, CNN is actually not fake news. HuffPo, yes, Breitbart yes, but CNN is just biased. It's Fox News level

lets not jump to conclusions guys. there's a 0.5% chance we might be wrong
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what if he was an alt right guy who thought Ariana was muslim because she's brown? it wouldn't be the first time racists got confused.
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EvoTech posted...

Already highly suspected but still lots of push back from certain users, sigh

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75359785

It's likely this is a terrorist attack and it's similar to many Islamic inspired ones, but so you don't look stupid like some of the users in that topic it's best to wait

ModLogic posted...

lets not jump to conclusions guys. there's a 0.5% chance we might be wrong

Actually it's 0.005%

Since people bitch about sources; pick one you like.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+many+suicide+bombers+were+muslim
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The IRA bombed Manchester back in 1996

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing
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This one is pretty obvious. I mean you should point out some skepticism, but it is pretty ridiculous to avoid the conversation at this point. It isn't like the car thing, which I definitely knew not to jump on. There is a clear line between "racism"(again race isn't involved, not that Arabs aren't Caucasian anyways) and accurately pointing out issues in a dangerous medieval ideology that preaches the violent intolerance the people who yell racism say they oppose(I guess we should just ignore all the polling, laws, and statistics coming out of Islamic nations).
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Ampelas posted...

Mr_MacPhisto posted...

People still use CNN as some sort of authoritative source for reporting/confirming news?

Despite Prima Donald's butthurt, CNN is actually not fake news. HuffPo, yes, Breitbart yes, but CNN is just biased. It's Fox News level

Nah, CNN is just slightly center left. MSNBC is a liberal bias that is comparable to Fox News on the right.
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EvoTech posted...

Already highly suspected but still lots of push back from certain users, sigh

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75376028/879624520
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Nomadic View posted...

ModLogic posted...

lets not jump to conclusions guys. there's a 0.5% chance we might be wrong

Actually it's 0.005%

Since people bitch about sources; pick one you like.

Honestly, none of those sources looked legitimate. I'm not saying you're wrong, but anything quoting Breitbart and The Blaze is probably not true. Although I can't think of a suicide bomber that wasn't related to terrorism.
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this_is_wow_huh posted...

The IRA bombed Manchester back in 1996

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Don't forget the OKC bomber who was retconned to being Muslim.
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Blue_Inigo posted...

EvoTech posted...

Already highly suspected but still lots of push back from certain users, sigh

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75376028/879624520

To be fair, non-Muslims purposely committing mass vehicular homicide is not unprecedented in the last decade. You had that white woman with mental issues drive her car into a crowd and kill several people a few years ago. But suicide bombing is exclusively Al-Qaeda and ISIS and those inspired by them.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

this_is_wow_huh posted...

The IRA bombed Manchester back in 1996

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Don't forget the OKC bomber who was retconned to being Muslim.

There's reaching and then there's this guy.
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BillyKidd posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

this_is_wow_huh posted...

The IRA bombed Manchester back in 1996

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Don't forget the OKC bomber who was retconned to being Muslim.

There's reaching and then there's this guy.

I'm just showing people how stupid they look making stupid posts politicizing tragedies.
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Ammonitida posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

EvoTech posted...

Already highly suspected but still lots of push back from certain users, sigh

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75376028/879624520

To be fair, non-Muslims purposely committing mass vehicular homicide is not unprecedented in the last decade. You had that white woman with mental issues drive her car into a crowd and kill several people a few years ago. But suicide bombing is exclusively Al-Qaeda and ISIS and those inspired by them.

There's really nothing wrong with saying something like "I'm guessing it was ISIS" since that's a reasonable assumption. When you add other stuff just to shit on muslims liberals or the like then you become a disgusting piece of trash that is using a tragedy to shitpost

sktgamer_13dude posted...

BillyKidd posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

this_is_wow_huh posted...

The IRA bombed Manchester back in 1996

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Don't forget the OKC bomber who was retconned to being Muslim.

There's reaching and then there's this guy.

I'm just showing people how stupid they look making stupid posts politicizing tragedies.

By comparing a bomber to, what the topic is on, suicide bomber?
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I mean, ISIS already took credit for it. That shouldn't be remotely offensive or controversial to state at this point.
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The Admiral posted...

I mean, ISIS already took credit for it. That shouldn't be remotely offensive or controversial to state at this point.

If this is a suicide bombing, then there's like a 99% chance that this is ISIS or Al-Qaeda inspired, but ISIS is not exactly a credible source.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

BillyKidd posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

this_is_wow_huh posted...

The IRA bombed Manchester back in 1996

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Don't forget the OKC bomber who was retconned to being Muslim.

There's reaching and then there's this guy.

I'm just showing people how stupid they look making stupid posts politicizing tragedies.

Difference between gloating about "HEY LOOK IT"S A MUSLIM" or "WHITE TERRORIZMZ". And actually not burying your head in the sand, looking at the ideology and reason behind an event, and analyzing it without fear of being called an ism.

The IRA thing is just a pathetic deflection to any argument that isn't "Muslims are the only religion that does anything bad, Christians/Catholics have never done anything." I know a little more about that too and it wasn't quite a religious thing either(trust me I have no issue talking shit about Catholic bullshit and it's effect in other places, like Latin America specifically, and it's cult of suffering).
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The Admiral posted...

I mean, ISIS already took credit for it. That shouldn't be remotely offensive or controversial to state at this point.

To be fair. It is a lot of time sympathizers and people influenced, but not people specifically sent by ISIS. Which shows how dumb the war on terror is when it is based on defeating an ideology with force.
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Ammonitida posted...

The Admiral posted...

I mean, ISIS already took credit for it. That shouldn't be remotely offensive or controversial to state at this point.

If this is a suicide bombing, then there's like a 99% chance that this is ISIS or Al-Qaeda inspired, but ISIS is not exactly a credible source.

When has ISIS taken credit for an attack and it didn't turn out to be Islamic terrorism?
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Ampelas posted...

Mr_MacPhisto posted...

People still use CNN as some sort of authoritative source for reporting/confirming news?

Despite Prima Donald's butthurt, CNN is actually not fake news. HuffPo, yes, Breitbart yes, but CNN is just biased. It's Fox News level

The best thing about CNN and Trump:

Any rare piece of good, factual news from CNN about/from,the Trump administration? He tweets a link to them.

Factual news from CNN about the numerous bad things that come from or about the Trump administration?

FAKE NEWS!!!!!!
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The Admiral posted...

Ammonitida posted...

The Admiral posted...

I mean, ISIS already took credit for it. That shouldn't be remotely offensive or controversial to state at this point.

If this is a suicide bombing, then there's like a 99% chance that this is ISIS or Al-Qaeda inspired, but ISIS is not exactly a credible source.

When has ISIS taken credit for an attack and it didn't turn out to be Islamic terrorism?

The chances of this being ISIS is remotely slim in the UK.

But you think any terrorist who is Muslim = ISIS
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isis claimed responsibility borussia dortmund attack when it wasnt them or anything about radical islamic terror
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Didn't ISIS take credit for that driver who ran over those people in New York?
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Maeiv posted...

Didn't ISIS take credit for that driver who ran over those people in New York?

ISIS takes responsibility for everything. I'd wait for it to be independently verified.
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Amputation posted...

The Admiral posted...

Ammonitida posted...

The Admiral posted...

I mean, ISIS already took credit for it. That shouldn't be remotely offensive or controversial to state at this point.

If this is a suicide bombing, then there's like a 99% chance that this is ISIS or Al-Qaeda inspired, but ISIS is not exactly a credible source.

When has ISIS taken credit for an attack and it didn't turn out to be Islamic terrorism?

The chances of this being ISIS is remotely slim in the UK.

But you think any terrorist who is Muslim = ISIS

I think most of these attackers are radicalized by ISIS videos and propaganda. So it's not really a stretch when they take credit. They are usually loosely responsible.

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?
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ISIS is basically an annoying co-worker that everyone hates.
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The Admiral posted...

Amputation posted...

The Admiral posted...

Ammonitida posted...

The Admiral posted...

I mean, ISIS already took credit for it. That shouldn't be remotely offensive or controversial to state at this point.

If this is a suicide bombing, then there's like a 99% chance that this is ISIS or Al-Qaeda inspired, but ISIS is not exactly a credible source.

When has ISIS taken credit for an attack and it didn't turn out to be Islamic terrorism?

The chances of this being ISIS is remotely slim in the UK.

But you think any terrorist who is Muslim = ISIS

I think most of these attackers are radicalized by ISIS videos and propaganda. So it's not really a stretch when they take credit. They are usually loosely responsible.

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

Kind of like when an abortion clinic bomber is radicalized by right wing propaganda.

I would prefer you be annoyed instead of answering you
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The Admiral posted...

I think most of these attackers are radicalized by ISIS videos and propaganda. So it's not really a stretch when they take credit. They are usually loosely responsible.

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

What about the Pulse nightclub shooting? ISIS takes credit for just about anything that they can whether they're directly involved or not.
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TheGonzoSpider posted...

The Admiral posted...

I think most of these attackers are radicalized by ISIS videos and propaganda. So it's not really a stretch when they take credit. They are usually loosely responsible.

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

What about the Pulse nightclub shooting? ISIS takes credit for just about anything that they can whether they're directly involved or not.

@Mal_Fet thinks the Orlando shooter IS a full-fledged ISIS member, despite the CIA confirming "Nope, zero connection"
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ManSpread posted...

thats why assuming is stupid

If your neighbor has a dog that habitually shits in other people's yard and you step in shit when you walk outside tomorrow are you not going to assume the dog did it or will you ask everyone if they shit on your porch instead of the dog?

Assuming that a suicide bomber was very likely a radical Muslim isn't stupid by any means just because it hurts your feelings.

Anthropologist Scott Atran states that since 2004 the overwhelming majority of bombers have been motivated by the ideology of Islamist martyrdom.[10]

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Amputation posted...

TheGonzoSpider posted...

The Admiral posted...

I think most of these attackers are radicalized by ISIS videos and propaganda. So it's not really a stretch when they take credit. They are usually loosely responsible.

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

What about the Pulse nightclub shooting? ISIS takes credit for just about anything that they can whether they're directly involved or not.

@Mal_Fet thinks the Orlando shooter IS a full-fledged ISIS member, despite the CIA confirming "Nope, zero connection"

It was confirmed he was radical extremist and the fake articles about him being a closeted homosexual were confirmed fake. But I guess you just love to spread propaganda. That's what trolls do.
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Siaperaz posted...

Amputation posted...

TheGonzoSpider posted...

The Admiral posted...

I think most of these attackers are radicalized by ISIS videos and propaganda. So it's not really a stretch when they take credit. They are usually loosely responsible.

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

What about the Pulse nightclub shooting? ISIS takes credit for just about anything that they can whether they're directly involved or not.

@Mal_Fet thinks the Orlando shooter IS a full-fledged ISIS member, despite the CIA confirming "Nope, zero connection"

It was confirmed he was radical extremist and the fake articles about him being a closeted homosexual were confirmed fake. But I guess you just love to spread propaganda. That's what trolls do.

You purposely dodged the point because you know I am right - he was not a member of ISIS. Radical extremist? Of course, nobody said otherwise.

Not a member of ISIS.
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Amputation posted...

Siaperaz posted...

Amputation posted...

TheGonzoSpider posted...

The Admiral posted...

I think most of these attackers are radicalized by ISIS videos and propaganda. So it's not really a stretch when they take credit. They are usually loosely responsible.

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

What about the Pulse nightclub shooting? ISIS takes credit for just about anything that they can whether they're directly involved or not.

@Mal_Fet thinks the Orlando shooter IS a full-fledged ISIS member, despite the CIA confirming "Nope, zero connection"

It was confirmed he was radical extremist and the fake articles about him being a closeted homosexual were confirmed fake. But I guess you just love to spread propaganda. That's what trolls do.

You purposely dodged the point because you know I am right - he was not a member of ISIS. Radical extremist? Of course, nobody said otherwise.

Not a member of ISIS.

Did you not understand the question I asked, or are being deliberately dense because you can't answer it?
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26_Sandman_39 posted...

When people have to go way back to 1996 to try to discredit the statistical probability that a suicide bomber was muslim, that's pretty much like going back to the 1950s to discredit the statistical probability that your relative didn't die of polio.

Well, there is still a chance it could have been someone else:


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People who are experts on terrorism are already betting that it's an Islamist attack (on CNN). There's an amount of people who gravitate towards an answer because of prejudice and cynicism, yes. But there are certain aspects of this attack that point towards an Islamist attack. Europe, suicide attack, explosives, and a crowded concert. I'll wait until official confirmation to say anything definitive of course, but don't act like it's impossible to formulate a reasonable guess based on what we know right now. That's what law enforcement and terrorism experts do.
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Admiral posted...

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

Amputation posted...

I would prefer you be annoyed instead of answering you

Reading pays off
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I don't think Times of Israel is a very reputable source. Apparently anyone can write an article for them and there's little editing done. The Blaze and Breitbart also quoted them for that graph.

As I said to the poster above I don't doubt the number is high but I'd like to read a more established source.
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Amputation posted...

Admiral posted...

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

Amputation posted...

I would prefer you be annoyed instead of answering you

Reading pays off

I'm not annoyed, I just know you're not smart enough to answer it. Otherwise you would.
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The Admiral posted...

Amputation posted...

Admiral posted...

Do you have an answer to my previous question, cowardly alt account?

Amputation posted...

I would prefer you be annoyed instead of answering you

Reading pays off

I'm not annoyed, I just know you're not smart enough to answer it. Otherwise you would.

Explain how answering you would make me "smart". This should be lol-worthy
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