Current Events > A terrorist bombing takes place and CE turns it into a political argument...

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Even for CE I feel like that is a shitty way to handle that situation...

If anything this type of thing should be one of the FEW situations CE can actually agree upon rather then throwing insults at each other...
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When is CE not a political argument?
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o/u 5 posts before someone blames the opposing side for starting it
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everything is political

especially tragedies
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FaultyGourry posted...

When is CE not a political argument?

You would hope when there is a tragedy that just happened, that all sides of CE would keep the insults to a minimum.

Maybe I am just old and too soft for CE these days...
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What did you expect to happen?
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Look, they did it again...who is surprised?

OMG not all of them are like that!

-continue the same two statements, just slightly reworded for 5 pages and you have a CE tragedy topic.
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I try to avoid CE when things like this occur, just a giant shitshow. Its sad.
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i mean are you surprised?
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Harpie posted...

What did you expect to happen?

The real question is, what did you want to happen?

500 posts of "thoughts and prayers"? "That sucks"?
What?

exactly. we claim it is islamic terrorism. the lefties say you don't know. turns out we're right. lefties still say we're racist because we said it before it was officially announced.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Harpie posted...

What did you expect to happen?

The real question is, what did you want to happen?

500 posts of "thoughts and prayers"? "That sucks"?
What?

That's certainly a good point, perhaps I just assumed CE would be less aggressive given the situation...
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Harpie posted...

What did you expect to happen?

The real question is, what did you want to happen?

500 posts of "thoughts and prayers"? "That sucks"?
What?

Exactly.

When it's random gun violence the left pushes their agenda, no problems. The right complains.

When it's an act of terrorism the right pushes their agenda and the left flips their shit.

And you know what. How many "my heart goes out to the victims" posts can you possibly get before someone posts a different style of post and someone loses their shit and slings insults.

The original topic got closed because a group of people didn't like opposing comments.
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this_is_wow_huh posted...

I try to avoid CE when things like this occur, just a giant s***show. Its sad.

Yup. Stayed away from that topic cause CE can just never help itself.
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CE has exploded like a pus-filled blister, and I think I'm just gonna stay away for the rest of the night.
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mattnd2007 posted...

exactly. we claim it is islamic terrorism. the lefties say you don't know. turns out we're right. lefties still say we're racist because we said it before it was officially announced.

This is because you guys are giddy about it because you feel it justiifes your narrative. You jump at every single event with multiple casualties and breathlessly spew about how you just "know" it was committed by a Muslim. Many even blatantly call for Muslim bans or deportations within the same post. You do this before ANY facts come out and smugly proclaim that the libs are in denial. You guys then simply ignore when you've been wrong, just in the past few months. Because you're not truthtellers, you're hacks with an agenda.
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It's a horrible, sad situation. Especially because this attack likely targeted young children.

But there's no reason it should not be political, as policies in place have made it conducive for these radical islamic attacks to occur. And there's people on CE who support those policies and world-view that continue to make these attacks conducive to occur. They don't want anything to change. In fact, some people want the immigration policies to be even more laxed.

But then they get upset because they don't want admit these policies are causing hundreds of people to lose their lives, become injured, sexually assaulted, etc.
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Capn Circus posted...

But there's no reason it should not be political, as policies in place have made it conducive for these radical islamic attacks to occur.

Pfft.
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legendary_zell posted...

mattnd2007 posted...

exactly. we claim it is islamic terrorism. the lefties say you don't know. turns out we're right. lefties still say we're racist because we said it before it was officially announced.

This is because you guys are giddy about it because you feel it justiifes your narrative. You jump at every single event with multiple casualties and breathlessly spew about how you just "know" it was committed by a Muslim. Many even blatantly call for Muslim bans or deportations within the same post. You do this before ANY facts come out and smugly proclaim that the libs are in denial. You guys then simply ignore when you've been wrong, just in the past few months. Because you're not truthtellers, you're hacks with an agenda.

personally i have never called for a ban on islam. mostly because it's stupid and wouldn't work. the way to get rid of the problem is to discredit the whole religion. but i have no idea how to do that.

i just call things like i see them. just saying, it probably wasn't a buddhist that attacked the concert.
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It's kinda what happens when a nation of misinformed morons is given a platform to spew their thoughts to a mass audience.
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Why cant we all just agree religion breeds hate imagine how nice we would be without religion
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and i admit when i'm wrong. in the rare occasions where it really wasn't islamic terrorism, i'll say well color me surprised.
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chrono625 posted...

The original topic got closed because a group of people didn't like opposing comments.

lmao sure. Completely ignore that half the topic was "Guys it's obviously Islam because I know it is and all Muslims are bad!"
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CADE FOSTER posted...

Why cant we all just agree religion breeds hate imagine how nice we would be without religion

You assume we wouldn't be blowing each other up over climate change or some other thing we end up radicalizing around. All that changes is these threads become "obviously greenpeace" and "oh, you just instantly assume it's greenpeace, huh?!"

It would certainly have made the Cola Wars more interesting, though. I'll give you that.

CADE FOSTER posted...

Why cant we all just agree religion breeds hate imagine how nice we would be without religion

We (as a species) would just find something else to get behind.
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Isn't it fucking pathetic and disgusting how far partisan hacks will go?
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i don't think anyone made a sweeping statement like all muslims are bad. maybe i missed it. but based on prior events it is reasonable to say with relative certainty that this was islamic terrorism as well.
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Maybe I'm just jaded but all this talk about it being the worst topic ever was very hyperbolic expect for that gore pick.
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legendary_zell posted...

mattnd2007 posted...

exactly. we claim it is islamic terrorism. the lefties say you don't know. turns out we're right. lefties still say we're racist because we said it before it was officially announced.

This is because you guys are giddy about it because you feel it justiifes your narrative. You jump at every single event with multiple casualties and breathlessly spew about how you just "know" it was committed by a Muslim. Many even blatantly call for Muslim bans or deportations within the same post. You do this before ANY facts come out and smugly proclaim that the libs are in denial. You guys then simply ignore when you've been wrong, just in the past few months. Because you're not truthtellers, you're hacks with an agenda.

Are you insane. This is the world we live in. It's not racism, it's facts.

CE is an absolute puss-filled shithole during any tragedy like this. Remember any mass shooting, random shooting or bombing talked about here and it's just toxic shit all over the place.

It's seriously not even worth posting about. It's just a waste of energy. Let the people who want to be assholes double down and go on the attack to each other.
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I'm just so relieved that Ariana Grande is okay. I got the tail end of all the news and my heart sunk when I heard. Thank God Ariana is okay.
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mattnd2007 posted...

Darmik posted...

CE is an absolute puss-filled shithole during any tragedy like this. Remember any mass shooting, random shooting or bombing talked about here and it's just toxic shit all over the place.

It's seriously not even worth posting about. It's just a waste of energy. Let the people who want to be assholes double down and go on the attack to each other.

isn't it glorious?

No. It's pathetic.
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very little political argument takes place here, it's mostly shitposts
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muchdran posted...

legendary_zell posted...

mattnd2007 posted...

exactly. we claim it is islamic terrorism. the lefties say you don't know. turns out we're right. lefties still say we're racist because we said it before it was officially announced.

This is because you guys are giddy about it because you feel it justiifes your narrative. You jump at every single event with multiple casualties and breathlessly spew about how you just "know" it was committed by a Muslim. Many even blatantly call for Muslim bans or deportations within the same post. You do this before ANY facts come out and smugly proclaim that the libs are in denial. You guys then simply ignore when you've been wrong, just in the past few months. Because you're not truthtellers, you're hacks with an agenda.

Are you insane. This is the world we live in. It's not racism, it's facts.

I didn't mention racism at all. I don't know why you're bringing it up now. The facts are that there's a section of society that actively hopes every public incident is a terrorist attack so they can get their 48 hour buffer period where it's okay to say hateful things. It happens with every major news story. A perfect example is Times Square accident that happened recently. People were smugly proclaiming within 10 seconds of the crash how an accident in NYC MUST have been a terrorist attack and anyone who couldn't see that was a blind SJW.

These people don't know anything. They WANT it to be a Muslim and assume it is so without regard to facts.
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It's often a political argument because the tragedy could have been prevented with the proper politics in place... what a shitty Monday this turned out to be.
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legendary_zell posted...

muchdran posted...

legendary_zell posted...

mattnd2007 posted...

exactly. we claim it is islamic terrorism. the lefties say you don't know. turns out we're right. lefties still say we're racist because we said it before it was officially announced.

This is because you guys are giddy about it because you feel it justiifes your narrative. You jump at every single event with multiple casualties and breathlessly spew about how you just "know" it was committed by a Muslim. Many even blatantly call for Muslim bans or deportations within the same post. You do this before ANY facts come out and smugly proclaim that the libs are in denial. You guys then simply ignore when you've been wrong, just in the past few months. Because you're not truthtellers, you're hacks with an agenda.

Are you insane. This is the world we live in. It's not racism, it's facts.

I didn't mention racism at all. I don't know why you're bringing it up now. The facts are that there's a section of society that actively hopes every public incident is a terrorist attack so they can get their 48 hour buffer period where it's okay to say hateful things. It happens with every major news story. A perfect example is Times Square accident that happened recently. People were smugly proclaiming within 10 seconds of the crash how an accident in NYC MUST have been a terrorist attack and anyone who couldn't see that was a blind SJW.

These people don't know anything. They WANT it to be a Muslim and assume it is so without regard to facts.

When people have a 90% success rate assuming attacks such as these are due to radical islamic terrorism, it's not that far fetched to start talking about the problem before "all the facts come in".

These events should be talked about. And it should have a political lens. Events unfolding today are a direct result of horrible policy. And policy that some people on CE support.
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Capn Circus posted...

legendary_zell posted...

muchdran posted...

legendary_zell posted...

mattnd2007 posted...

exactly. we claim it is islamic terrorism. the lefties say you don't know. turns out we're right. lefties still say we're racist because we said it before it was officially announced.

This is because you guys are giddy about it because you feel it justiifes your narrative. You jump at every single event with multiple casualties and breathlessly spew about how you just "know" it was committed by a Muslim. Many even blatantly call for Muslim bans or deportations within the same post. You do this before ANY facts come out and smugly proclaim that the libs are in denial. You guys then simply ignore when you've been wrong, just in the past few months. Because you're not truthtellers, you're hacks with an agenda.

Are you insane. This is the world we live in. It's not racism, it's facts.

I didn't mention racism at all. I don't know why you're bringing it up now. The facts are that there's a section of society that actively hopes every public incident is a terrorist attack so they can get their 48 hour buffer period where it's okay to say hateful things. It happens with every major news story. A perfect example is Times Square accident that happened recently. People were smugly proclaiming within 10 seconds of the crash how an accident in NYC MUST have been a terrorist attack and anyone who couldn't see that was a blind SJW.

These people don't know anything. They WANT it to be a Muslim and assume it is so without regard to facts.

When people have a 90% success rate assuming attacks such as these are due to radical islamic terrorism, it's not that far fetched to start talking about the problem before "all the facts come in".

These events should be talked about. And it should have a political lens. Events unfolding today are a direct result of horrible policy. And policy that some people on CE support.

We don't know anything about who did this even if they were muslim. We don't know their background, where they came from, what influenced them or anything. Yet people are still very happy to immediately use events like this to foster general anti-Muslim sentiment. You can dress it up as "political solutions" but you especially are not fooling anyone. The "problem" in your view is the presence of Muslims and your "political solutions" would involve mass human rights violations.
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I don't post in tragedy topics, but isn't it getting a little tiring that people claim it's "racist" to assume it's an Islamic attack when it almost always is?

Guys, Islamic Terrorism isn't real! If we just pretend it's not a problem, it will go away!