Current Events > I've watched Friday the 13th 1-4 + the remake in the last two days.

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@yusiko I know you were doing a watchthrough yourself. How far have you gotten?

Is it bad I kind of like them all? I'd say...

2>3>4>remake>1

And I've pretty much liked all the characters. I was under the impression 80s slashers characters were devoid of all character. And the acting really isn't bad for the most part, barring a few exceptions. Chris's boyfriend Paul? was pretty bad. And the hunter guy in 4 lmao
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im about to start the 8th
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i dont like the fifth one
every other one i enjoy
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dont like the remake either
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I never saw the remake. I've only seen 1 through 9.

I almost regret that I didn't leave it at 1 through 8. Jason Goes to Hell was bad fanfiction.

Most of them are terrible, especially the first one. They get better starting with The New Blood and then Jason Takes Manhattan. The best in the series is Jason X -- AKA Jason in Space.
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The only one i like to rewatch is 4

I love 'em all. I find their campiness awesome.
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Hellraiser and Nightmare on Elm Street are far superior 80s and early 90s horror franchises. Hell, even Leprechaun is better. With Friday the 13th movies, only the last 30 minutes are any good. Before that you're treated to lame one-on-one killing scenes proceeded by a dreadfully slow build up.
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Now watch all Nightmare on Elm Street and then Freddy vs Jason
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Ammonitida posted...

Hellraiser and Nightmare on Elm Street are far superior 80s and early 90s horror franchises. Hell, even Leprechaun is better. With Friday the 13th movies, only the last 30 minutes are any good. Before that you're treated to lame one-on-one killing scenes proceeded by a dreadfully slow build up.

You're lying to yourself if you believe that.

yusiko posted...

i dont like the fifth one
every other one i enjoy

Just finished 5. That was really really bad. Definitely bottom of the list. Onto 6! If i don't fall asleep.

Ammonitida posted...

Most of them are terrible, especially the first one. They get better starting with The New Blood and then Jason Takes Manhattan. The best in the series is Jason X -- AKA Jason in Space.

Yeah, I didn't care for the first one. Which is weird. Usually the first is the best. Is 6 The New Blood? I've actually seen Jason X. Years and years ago. Scared me as a kid lol.

BuckVanHammer posted...

The only one i like to rewatch is 4

4 is pretty good. I find Crispin Glover to be extremely charming.

Eat More Beef posted...

I love 'em all. I find their campiness awesome.

I can respect that. Comparing them to each other though, which do you think are best and worst?

Ammonitida posted...

Hellraiser and Nightmare on Elm Street are far superior 80s and early 90s horror franchises. Hell, even Leprechaun is better. With Friday the 13th movies, only the last 30 minutes are any good. Before that you're treated to lame one-on-one killing scenes proceeded by a dreadfully slow build up.

The movies are definitely not as horrible as I thought they'd be. 2 and 3 I think are great and 4 is good. While the last 30 minutes is always exciting, I actually come to like a lot of the characters and themes. Like in 4, EVERYONE was dealing with sex, and all the different aspects of it for each character was interesting to me. The aforementioned Crispin Glover especially. At least he died after having pretty much the greatest ego boost of his life. (He found out he wasn't a dead fuck!)

meestermj posted...

Now watch all Nightmare on Elm Street and then Freddy vs Jason

I've seen a couple of the Nightmares. Watched 1 recently and thought it was all right. The death scenes were pretty great though. And I've seen FvJ too haha.
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part 7 is new blood

yeah overall i really enjoy the series

2 3 4 and 7 are my favorites
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The game comes out f Friday and I'm hoping it turns out good, though a few of the kills looked kind of bland.
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the remake is the perfect example of everything i hate about when slashers decide they would rather have a final guy than a traditional final girl.

they never let him be completely terrified so i dont feel scared for his safety
which makes me bored

part 6 handled a final guy fine by pairing him with a final girl. megan was not the most central final girl to her movie but the chemistry was great between her and tommy and she had a few heroic moments
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Jeff is the only interesting character in part 2.

Part 3 is filled with wonderful characters. Like Chili, she's in my top 3 of the franchise.
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yusiko posted...

im about to start the 8th

best one, but it bothers people because it started his teleportation
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Please don't watch part 9 Jason Goes to Hell you'll regret it
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Finished 6. I liked it. It was very different with its tone. I think it walked the self awareness line pretty well. And it was funny. Megan was cool and I really liked Tommy in this one. Sheriff dad was an unreasonable amount of dick. Jason was a total beast @_@



Kajagogo posted...

Part 3 is filled with wonderful characters. Like Chili, she's in my top 3 of the franchise.

3 had a great group of characters. I loved the stoner couple hahaha.

As a side note, these movies had some really hot actors.
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wolverinev2 posted...

The game comes out f Friday and I'm hoping it turns out good, though a few of the kills looked kind of bland.

I've watched hours of the gameplay. The game is what inspired me to watch the movies. I think the game looks amazing. Can't imagine a horror or Jason fan not liking it!
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yem69420 posted...

yusiko posted...

im about to start the 8th

best one, but it bothers people because it started his teleportation

actually thats just one of the reasons people dislike part 8
they dislike that a movie called jason takes manhatten spends all of 4 minutes in new york and most of the film on a boat
they also dislike the final girl of that movie who is such a damsel in distress that even jason had to rescue her at one point

also it doesnt help that pretty much every character in the film was more interesting than rennie
id rather have had kelly hu's character been the final girl
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of course none of them are as bad as 5
the only really likable character was the old cranky lady who should have been the star
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yusiko posted...

of course none of them are as bad as 5
the only really likable character was the old cranky lady who should have been the star

Ethel, yes, she's another one of my top 3 of the franchise.

Chili, Ethel, Violet!!
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Kajagogo posted...

yusiko posted...

of course none of them are as bad as 5
the only really likable character was the old cranky lady who should have been the star

Ethel, yes, she's another one of my top 3 of the franchise.

Chili, Ethel, Violet!!

yeah she was good
violet had a cool look to her but not really one of my favorites.

my top 3 non final girl characters are Ethel, random badass waitress from part 9, Eva from part 8
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yusiko posted...

of course none of them are as bad as 5
the only really likable character was the old cranky lady who should have been the star

Really? I thought the characters were above average in 5.

The film was doomed from the start though due to no Jason.

Skye Reynolds posted...

yusiko posted...

of course none of them are as bad as 5
the only really likable character was the old cranky lady who should have been the star

Really? I thought the characters were above average in 5.

The film was doomed from the start though due to no Jason.

in my opinion at least
pam was a rather boring lead
tommy literally had all of 2 lines
reggie was a bit obnoxious
and then everyone else is just kind of meh with little personality

ethel was fun cause of how over the top she was
one of the causes of this was that apparently the writers were told that they had to have a death every 8 minutes
so most of the script is just introducing people then immediately killing them off.
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yusiko posted...

tommy literally had all of 2 lines

I believe he had six.

In his three film appearances, it was the best interpretation of Tommy Jarvis.

Skye Reynolds posted...

yusiko posted...

tommy literally had all of 2 lines

I believe he had six.

In his three film appearances, it was the best interpretation of Tommy Jarvis.

i disagree
i only really liked tommy in the 6th movie but his actor in the 5th one was better he just didnt get to show it.
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Jason goes to hell was pretty bad too. There is a big story behind the production and development of it.
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wolverinev2 posted...

Jason goes to hell was pretty bad too. There is a big story behind the production and development of it.

jason goes to hell is bad but its so bad i find it entertaining
kind of like how i like freddy's dead despite it being terrible

a boring movie bugs me more than a bad but entertaining one
thats why im not a fan of nightmare on elm street 2 or friday the 13th part 5
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5 definitely had the worst lot of characters. I feel like I was interested the most in 4 and 3's victims. 6 wasn't good in that aspect cuz it was a lot of about Tommy. Who I really liked in 6. He seemed so one note in 5. Just seemed like a poorly written and directed movie.

I'm going to wait until Sunday/Monday to watch 7, 8, 9 and X? I think that's all in the main series? Not counting FvJ because after this I want to watch all the Nightmares.
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7 is my favorite
and i liked the characters in 6
at the very least i liked tommy, megen and the sheriff
there was a lot of chemistry between tommy and megen.

i plan to make a topic ranking the friday final girls and megen i like
she has a bit of an edge to her kind of like the bad girl of the final girls

i kind of get the idea that she thinks tommy is crazy but harmless crazy and cute so she went along with him for a bit of a thrill rather than actually thinking anything was real

i kind of got the feeling she didnt really realize just how much danger she actually was in until they got the the camp despite being one of the few final girls who is told jason is out there right from the start

i just wish she had gotten a chase scene
part 6 didnt really have a grand final chase scene
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I love the series outside of the remake, Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X.

Could literally watch them all the time due to how badly good they are.

Megan was so spunky. She was a really fun character.

So far personally I'd rank them...

Ginny > Chris > Megan > Trish > Alice > Pam

They are all good in their own ways. Pam with the chainsaw lmao that scene was so good.
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my top 5 would have to be tina > chris > ginny > megan > alice
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Tina is the girl in 7 right? Not sure how I feel about her...ability... hope I like the movie.
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yes she is the girl in 7
and i love her
she is the one final girl in the series who is a match for jason
others got by on being clever and running for dear life
tina actually gives him a fight
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yusiko posted...

wolverinev2 posted...

Jason goes to hell was pretty bad too. There is a big story behind the production and development of it.

jason goes to hell is bad but its so bad i find it entertaining
kind of like how i like freddy's dead despite it being terrible

a boring movie bugs me more than a bad but entertaining one
thats why im not a fan of nightmare on elm street 2 or friday the 13th part 5

I didn't like Jason goes to hell because it didn't really fit in with the character or Mythos. It was like they had to come up with a way to make the film, just without Jason in it.
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wolverinev2 posted...

yusiko posted...

wolverinev2 posted...

Jason goes to hell was pretty bad too. There is a big story behind the production and development of it.

jason goes to hell is bad but its so bad i find it entertaining
kind of like how i like freddy's dead despite it being terrible

a boring movie bugs me more than a bad but entertaining one
thats why im not a fan of nightmare on elm street 2 or friday the 13th part 5

I didn't like Jason goes to hell because it didn't really fit in with the character or Mythos. It was like they had to come up with a way to make the film, just without Jason in it.

that is all completely true
but lets never forget it also had the random waitress who seemed to be a hero from an action movie


its just so unusual for a character with almost no lines being completely badass

why wasnt she the final girl?
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yusiko posted...

wolverinev2 posted...

yusiko posted...

wolverinev2 posted...

Jason goes to hell was pretty bad too. There is a big story behind the production and development of it.

jason goes to hell is bad but its so bad i find it entertaining
kind of like how i like freddy's dead despite it being terrible

a boring movie bugs me more than a bad but entertaining one
thats why im not a fan of nightmare on elm street 2 or friday the 13th part 5

I didn't like Jason goes to hell because it didn't really fit in with the character or Mythos. It was like they had to come up with a way to make the film, just without Jason in it.

that is all completely true
but lets never forget it also had the random waitress who seemed to be a hero from an action movie


its just so unusual for a character with almost no lines being completely badass

why wasnt she the final girl?

Because he squished her head until her eyes popped out? I remember reading about how when the film came out they were handing out comics that connected this to Takes Manhattan. But, the main problem was that when it came to DVD/VHS/Beta/whatever. They stopped making it, so you were kind of screwed and a bit confused. Because before that, the films at least TRIED to connect to each other.

Hell even Freddie's Dead tried to make connections to the other films. Granted, not very good connections.. But at least it tried. Also, made me a bit confused why Freddy didn't try to kill Alice or the other survivors before. The only time they were addressed was in the Ash vs Freddy vs Jason comic series (which was decent at best.)
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well freddy had a personal vendetta against alice
the others were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and jason rarely leaves his killing area so its safe to assume had they all made it to safety he wouldnt have bothered pursuing them far


what bugs me about 8 is that he chases only the people who were on the boat around the city instead of going after all the new targets the city offers him
he ignored potential villains just to chase the people who got off the boat

it makes no sense.



janessa should have been the lead of jason X
she was the best character
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Freddy was better when he wasn't a comedian. Hell, even when I was in middle school I knew that it made him less scary. In the first, and New Nightmares he was terrifying. Because he didn't say dumb one liners and do stupid shit. He would taunt you, and then brutally murder you.

I do get WHY they did that. It's probably a lot more fun for the actor to do that, and I guess with him being in your dreams. He's supposed to have total control over the victims imaginations (depending on the budget.)

Which is what depressed me about Freddy vs Jason. I went in expecting to see them have competing kills and see how the "current" times budget and technology would advance his "powers".
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i wish freddy had gotten more kills in freddy vs jason
he got almost none

i think he offed a single person
we didnt even get any super creative nightmares
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yusiko posted...

i wish freddy had gotten more kills in freddy vs jason
he got almost none

i think he offed a single person
we didnt even get any super creative nightmares

The other problem was how half the film wasn't even them fighting. It was just dumb teenagers being annoying, and then finally at the end they fought. I've seen both remakes and they were so-so. I like the aspect of them showing how Jason can get from point A to B quickly, and kind of enjoyed the new take on Freddy. But didn't like how they still kind of made people stupid in the films.
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I know they're horror movies, but it's too bad more characters don't live. These movies have huge casts of characters getting killed...could we have more than 1 or 2 survivors plz.

Like the waitress lady (I remember seeing her spear throwing scene?! on tv once) should have gotten away or something. And less kills where no one fights back.
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well freddy and jason both are villains and the movie did need a heroic character to root for
the problem is that the final girl of freddy vs jason just wasnt up to snuff being a mediocre final girl when a movie pitting two titans of horror up against needed a final girl of nancy thompson or sidney prescott caliber

someone who the audience wants to root for
lori just wasnt that final girl.


you know people really didnt do many stupid things in the early nightmare and friday films
most of the time no one realized they were in danger until they were literally seconds away from dying especially in jason movies

later films they did dumbass things for sure
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MorbidFaithless posted...

I know they're horror movies, but it's too bad more characters don't live. These movies have huge casts of characters getting killed...could we have more than 1 or 2 survivors plz.

Like the waitress lady (I remember seeing her spear throwing scene?! on tv once) should have gotten away or something. And less kills where no one fights back.

you should watch the scream movies if you havent
each scream movie actually has a decently sized amount of survivors
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yusiko posted...

well freddy and jason both are villains and the movie did need a heroic character to root for
the problem is that the final girl of freddy vs jason just wasnt up to snuff being a mediocre final girl when a movie pitting two titans of horror up against needed a final girl of nancy thompson or sidney prescott caliber

someone who the audience wants to root for
lori just wasnt that final girl.


you know people really didnt do many stupid things in the early nightmare and friday films
most of the time no one realized they were in danger until they were literally seconds away from dying especially in jason movies

later films they did dumbass things for sure

I saw one where a goddamn dog jumped THROUGH a window to escape Jason's house. When your dog decides to leap through a window... I think that's a good hint to the GTFO of there.
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wolverinev2 posted...

yusiko posted...

well freddy and jason both are villains and the movie did need a heroic character to root for
the problem is that the final girl of freddy vs jason just wasnt up to snuff being a mediocre final girl when a movie pitting two titans of horror up against needed a final girl of nancy thompson or sidney prescott caliber

someone who the audience wants to root for
lori just wasnt that final girl.


you know people really didnt do many stupid things in the early nightmare and friday films
most of the time no one realized they were in danger until they were literally seconds away from dying especially in jason movies

later films they did dumbass things for sure

I saw one where a goddamn dog jumped THROUGH a window to escape Jason's house. When your dog decides to leap through a window... I think that's a good hint to the GTFO of there.

everyone was dead by that point and the few survivors didnt see that so they didnt know
jason doesnt usually give people time to realize they are in danger
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yusiko posted...

wolverinev2 posted...

yusiko posted...

well freddy and jason both are villains and the movie did need a heroic character to root for
the problem is that the final girl of freddy vs jason just wasnt up to snuff being a mediocre final girl when a movie pitting two titans of horror up against needed a final girl of nancy thompson or sidney prescott caliber

someone who the audience wants to root for
lori just wasnt that final girl.


you know people really didnt do many stupid things in the early nightmare and friday films
most of the time no one realized they were in danger until they were literally seconds away from dying especially in jason movies

later films they did dumbass things for sure

I saw one where a goddamn dog jumped THROUGH a window to escape Jason's house. When your dog decides to leap through a window... I think that's a good hint to the GTFO of there.

everyone was dead by that point and the few survivors didnt see that so they didnt know
jason doesnt usually give people time to realize they are in danger

I've always wondered why they kept reopening Crystal lake too. It was like in the first one it was just an urban myth, but after that they had to realize that some serious shit was going on there. That doesn't just require the Sheriff and his idiot deputy. THAT was the only thing I kind of liked about Jason goes to hell. They set up a trap, and then pretty much blew him up.

Then it all just wen to stupid. See Jason's heart? Eat it, proceed to have Jason body swap, shave a guy and then run around in other peoples bodies and not fully appear till the end. Also, that tease at the end was just annoying as hell.
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