Current Events > Chris Cornell's death is really fucking with me.

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I've been a lifelong fan of his music (Black Hole Sun was my first music video and Audioslave was a BIG part of my high school music experience). I've also been going through a lot of shit the past 8 months or so with treating my depression and anxiety. Now they're saying lorazepam (ativan) had a role in it and I was prescribed that shit as part of my treatment but I couldn't will myself to take it because I was terrified of the side effects.

I'm trying so hard to get myself right and it's like there's no real way to do that. The cure can be worse than the disease. Now someone I looked up to and greatly enjoyed might have succumbed to this very same shit I'm dealing with.

I'm mourning his death and feel bad for his family and all the other fans but on top of all that it's fucking hard to be hopeful for myself, I tell you what.
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they give lorezapam to like everyone that seeks help for anxiety. it's not some behind the scenes suicide drug and i hope people don't start treating it like that all of a sudden.

I suffer psychotic depressions with vicious suicidal thoughts, and also happen to take lorazepam. The pill doesn't seem to affect my thoughts in a positive or negative way, and I tend to misdose myself properly too. Iunno.
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Back_Stabbath posted...

they give lorezapam to like everyone that seeks help for anxiety. it's not some behind the scenes suicide drug and i hope people don't start treating it like that all of a sudden.

I suffer psychotic depressions with vicious suicidal thoughts, and also happen to take lorazepam. The pill doesn't seem to affect my thoughts in a positive or negative way, and I tend to misdose myself properly too. Iunno.

It can make you suicidal though. It did with me and I came real close to actually doing it.
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It's natural to get really affected by this when you have no life and just shitpost on ce all day, I recommend getting a life and not feeling to this level over a junkie
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Hash-Brown posted...

Back_Stabbath posted...

they give lorezapam to like everyone that seeks help for anxiety. it's not some behind the scenes suicide drug and i hope people don't start treating it like that all of a sudden.

I suffer psychotic depressions with vicious suicidal thoughts, and also happen to take lorazepam. The pill doesn't seem to affect my thoughts in a positive or negative way, and I tend to misdose myself properly too. Iunno.

It can make you suicidal though. It did with me and I came real close to actually doing it.

Doesn't this usually only apply to people who are already severely depressed? Same as most drugs. I mean even antidepressants can make you suicidal. I've never really heard about benzos putting people at an increased risk for suicide unless they already had a history of depression.

Is this a cure or is this a disease.
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Lorazepam and the benzodiazepines are inappropriate medications for the treatment of anxiety long-term. Really annoys me when doctors immediately go to benzodiazepines.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Lorazepam and the benzodiazepines are inappropriate medications for the treatment of anxiety long-term. Really annoys me when doctors immediately go to benzodiazepines.

No they're not. They actually work unlike bullshit ssris.

Hash-Brown posted...

Back_Stabbath posted...

they give lorezapam to like everyone that seeks help for anxiety. it's not some behind the scenes suicide drug and i hope people don't start treating it like that all of a sudden.

I suffer psychotic depressions with vicious suicidal thoughts, and also happen to take lorazepam. The pill doesn't seem to affect my thoughts in a positive or negative way, and I tend to misdose myself properly too. Iunno.

It can make you suicidal though. It did with me and I came real close to actually doing it.

That's not really unique to lorazepam. Typically on your way up in recovery you go through a little phase where you're depressed, but you can actually muster up the motivation to go ahead with the act of killing yourself instead of simply wallowing. I've been through it, seen many people go through it. It's not like a pill is gonna completely rewire your brain and program you to kill yourself.
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exvampire posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

Lorazepam and the benzodiazepines are inappropriate medications for the treatment of anxiety long-term. Really annoys me when doctors immediately go to benzodiazepines.

No they're not. They actually work unlike bullshit ssris.

Whatever you say, doc
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exvampire posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

Lorazepam and the benzodiazepines are inappropriate medications for the treatment of anxiety long-term. Really annoys me when doctors immediately go to benzodiazepines.

No they're not. They actually work unlike bullshit ssris.

Benzos should never be a first line of defense for long-term anxiety treatment.

Also Chris was apparently taking much more than he should have been according to his wife
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DezCaughtIt posted...

Benzos should never be a first line of defense for long-term anxiety treatment.

Why? Because you can get addicted? Doctors would rather people suffer than get help that actually works.

I've honestly never have seen the appeal of black hole sun. Good voice, good performance, good musicians.

But the song while depressing doesn't hit the bottom, the lyics are impersonal, the chorus is overdone and predictable. It's not happy its not sad, its just annoying on some level. I think it's the eq of the guitar that's so off setting, accompanied by the drudgery of the chorus and the monotany of the verses, which shares the same slow slugging.

If songs were colors it would be like a bland shit stain smear, with the colors related to green set to a hue without spectacular brocoli or grass green, but more of a dying yellow brownish leaf green.

I've tried to enjoy it, but overall as much as I have I just think it's a bad song.
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Millennials

if i want to hear a lyric again, I'll replay the song. luckily one play through kills the need to restart it.


Black hole sun
Won't you come
And wash away the rain
Black hole sun
Won't you come
Won't you come (won't you come)



Black hole sun
Won't you come
And wash away the rain
Black hole sun
Won't you come
Won't you come

Black hole sun
Won't you come
And wash away the rain
Black hole sun
Won't you come
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)

Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)

Hang my head, drown my fear
Till you all just disappear

Black hole sun
Won't you come
And wash away the rain
Black hole sun
Won't you come
Won't you come

Black hole sun
Won't you come
And wash away the rain
Black hole sun
Won't you come
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come (black hole sun, black hole sun)
Won't you come
Won't you come


like fucking really.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Lorazepam and the benzodiazepines are inappropriate medications for the treatment of anxiety long-term. Really annoys me when doctors immediately go to benzodiazepines.

This and I hate it when they prescribe over 10 pills of it or a 10 day supply of Xanax. They need to teach people how to manage anxiety better. Same with Z-drugs.
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VaniIIa Coke posted...

I've honestly never have seen the appeal of black hole sun. Good voice, good performance, good musicians.

But the song while depressing doesn't hit the bottom, the lyics are impersonal, the chorus is overdone and predictable. It's not happy its not sad, its just annoying on some level. I think it's the eq of the guitar that's so off setting, accompanied by the drudgery of the chorus and the monotany of the verses, which shares the same slow slugging.

If songs were colors it would be like a bland shit stain smear, with the colors related to green set to a hue without spectacular brocoli or grass green, but more of a dying yellow brownish leaf green.

I've tried to enjoy it, but overall as much as I have I just think it's a bad song.

Triggered
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This is probably oversimplifying but benzos in large enough doses turn you F***s Given meter to zero. And since anxiety is basically excessive worrying, it's naturally prescribed in that context despite the addiction risk.

But the thing is in someone also with depression, especially when you start abusing it benzos can definitely take a sad thought and make you run all the way with it with no restraint or respect for the consequences. I'm not saying that's what happened to Chris Cornell because obviously I have no clue but from personal experience that's how I see it.
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Audioslave's not even that good though.
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"Chris Cornell stated in a 2014 interview with Entertainment Weekly that the title came from something he heard on the news - he thought the anchor said "black hole sun," but he really was saying something else. Cornell started thinking about the phrase and decided to write a song around it, as he felt it was a thought-provoking title"

My thought was, the Sun is the name the closest star to Earth. A black hole isn't the sun, because the sun is a star.

And apart from that:

https://empoweryourknowledgeandhappytrivia.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/star-life-cycle.jpg

It isn't thought provoking, it's mind numbingly stupid.
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TC, stay strong. Just because Cornell couldn't battle out of his issues, doesn't mean that you are in the same boat. You can fight it and somehow find happiness.

Be strong <3
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I had no idea who he is and still kinda don't but any death sucks. :( Be strong tho
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KronoCloud posted...

VaniIIa Coke posted...

I've honestly never have seen the appeal of black hole sun. Good voice, good performance, good musicians.

But the song while depressing doesn't hit the bottom, the lyics are impersonal, the chorus is overdone and predictable. It's not happy its not sad, its just annoying on some level. I think it's the eq of the guitar that's so off setting, accompanied by the drudgery of the chorus and the monotany of the verses, which shares the same slow slugging.

If songs were colors it would be like a bland shit stain smear, with the colors related to green set to a hue without spectacular brocoli or grass green, but more of a dying yellow brownish leaf green.

I've tried to enjoy it, but overall as much as I have I just think it's a bad song.

Triggered

My ability to write sentences is triggered.
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Conflict posted...

VaniIIa Coke posted...

"Chris Cornell stated in a 2014 interview with Entertainment Weekly that the title came from something he heard on the news - he thought the anchor said "black hole sun," but he really was saying something else. Cornell started thinking about the phrase and decided to write a song around it, as he felt it was a thought-provoking title"

My thought was, the Sun is the name the closest star to Earth. A black hole isn't the sun, because the sun is a star.

And apart from that:

https://empoweryourknowledgeandhappytrivia.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/star-life-cycle.jpg

It isn't thought provoking, it's mind numbingly stupid.

We get it, you don't like the song. You could've made that clear in one single-sentence post instead of 3 tryhard posts.

I really couldn't have, see only now do you understand fully, how listening to black hole sun annoys me and in what exact way.

:D
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exvampire posted...

DezCaughtIt posted...

Benzos should never be a first line of defense for long-term anxiety treatment.

Why? Because you can get addicted? Doctors would rather people suffer than get help that actually works.

Because they sensitize your brain's GABA receptors, being both less effective over time and worsening your baseline anxiety in the process.
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@VaniIIa_Coke such a greasy tryhard holy shit lmao
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