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SwayM
05/13/17 3:22:26 AM
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It's gotten so old now when you deplete a bosses health bar and suddenly gains a set of wings two extra arms and a large erect dick. Phase two whopty fucking doo.
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Turbam
05/13/17 3:23:32 AM
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This isn't even my final form!
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Turtlebread
05/13/17 3:24:22 AM
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yeah I don't like that shit either
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Cookie Bag
05/13/17 3:25:00 AM
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It's cool for final bosses, for everything else its a chore.
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FF_Redux
05/13/17 3:25:55 AM
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mcpwnia
05/13/17 3:26:03 AM
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Hash-Brown
05/13/17 3:40:09 AM
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SwayM posted...
and a large erect dick.

What games are you playing?
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Bloodychess
05/13/17 3:41:11 AM
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Hash-Brown posted...
SwayM posted...
and a large erect dick.

What games are you playing?


Probably Muscle March
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WilliamPorygon
05/13/17 3:43:17 AM
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I hate when a boss battle takes 15 fucking minutes and the first 10 minutes are pointless busywork you have to redo every time you inevitably die at the ridiculously difficult final phase.

Yeah, I'm talking about you, Yooka-Laylee.
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sellerdore
05/13/17 3:44:02 AM
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What are bosses that you guys actually like?
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loafy013
05/13/17 3:47:16 AM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
I hate when a boss battle takes 15 fucking minutes and the first 10 minutes are pointless busywork you have to redo every time you inevitably die at the ridiculously difficult final phase.

Yeah, I'm talking about you, Yooka-Laylee.

I thought you were talking about Nameless King in DS3. Took forever to get to his second phase, then one or 2 errors and you die before you can really learn his moveset. Back to phase one again.
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Blue_Inigo
05/13/17 3:48:53 AM
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Fuck that. Phases are awesome
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/17 3:49:54 AM
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You get one life bar. One.
Anything more is utter bullshit.
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Alucard188
05/13/17 3:51:58 AM
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I'm of two minds on it. I am also tired with the excessive use of phase switching whenever a bosses health is depleted. However, if the final boss only has one phase, it better be an epic fucking phase, or else I'm going to be very disappointed. I like all the Dark Souls series does it, because the bosses in the fights will do a sort of phase shift and change up their attack patterns when they get below a certain health.
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xBloodBrotherx
05/13/17 3:54:40 AM
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I'm okay with the phases where they're triggered to change at __% depletion but when you take the health bat away and then it comes back that grinds my fucking gears hard. Because:
Questionmarktarius posted...
You get one life bar. One.
Anything more is utter bullshit.

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kuwab0
05/13/17 3:58:46 AM
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Hash-Brown posted...
SwayM posted...
and a large erect dick.

What games are you playing?

Lucifer in Dante's Inferno had a big dick for some reason
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SwayM
05/13/17 4:05:23 AM
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mcpwnia posted...
why are all your topic titles ending in ellipses


I've always done it like that. I guess because I'm leading you into the meat and potatoes of the topic itself.
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ManSpread
05/13/17 4:45:26 AM
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multi phase boss fights are fucking legit, too bad nobody on ce plays /realgames/ like Crimzon Clover (see video below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3sq3yKaDQ


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this is from my 1cc a few weeks ago (pls ignore my 2 incredibly stupid deaths)
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/17 4:48:13 AM
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ManSpread posted...
multi phase boss fights are fucking legit, too bad nobody on ce plays /realgames/

Castlevania 3 endboss was bullshit.
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apolloooo
05/13/17 4:52:30 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Fuck that. Phases are awesome

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Mike3048
05/13/17 4:52:49 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
I'm of two minds on it. I am also tired with the excessive use of phase switching whenever a bosses health is depleted. However, if the final boss only has one phase, it better be an epic fucking phase, or else I'm going to be very disappointed. I like all the Dark Souls series does it, because the bosses in the fights will do a sort of phase shift and change up their attack patterns when they get below a certain health.

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gunplagirl
05/13/17 4:54:16 AM
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It the bread and butter of MMOs and that's what makes them fun when at end game
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ManSpread
05/13/17 12:05:33 PM
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apolloooo posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Fuck that. Phases are awesome

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Drpooplol
05/13/17 12:12:19 PM
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loafy013 posted...
WilliamPorygon posted...
I hate when a boss battle takes 15 fucking minutes and the first 10 minutes are pointless busywork you have to redo every time you inevitably die at the ridiculously difficult final phase.

Yeah, I'm talking about you, Yooka-Laylee.

I thought you were talking about Nameless King in DS3. Took forever to get to his second phase, then one or 2 errors and you die before you can really learn his moveset. Back to phase one again.

I honestly think it's one of the worst bosses in the series. I'd rather fight the bed of chaos. Yeah it's random, but it never takes me more than 2-3 tries to get past it.
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CapnMuffin
05/13/17 12:14:18 PM
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So you're tired of variation? That makes no sense.
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SwayM
05/13/17 6:43:53 PM
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CapnMuffin posted...
So you're tired of variation? That makes no sense.


It's overused and has diminished the effect into nothingness. It's supposed to ramp up the intensity and make the fight more exciting.

Instead, it makes me roll my eyes and feel like my time is being wasted because the developers wanted to get cute.

It should be used absolutely sparingly. I'm with some other posters here, final boss or bust.
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Skye Reynolds
05/13/17 6:50:07 PM
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SwayM posted...
It's gotten so old now when you deplete a bosses health bar and suddenly gains a set of wings two extra arms and a large erect dick. Phase two whopty fucking doo.


Most video games are made in Japan.
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Cookie Bag
05/13/17 6:51:23 PM
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Opinions are funny.
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weapon_d00d816
05/13/17 6:51:43 PM
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It's no more tiresome than boss fights themselves.

There's not much you can do to innovate.
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UnholyMudcrab
05/13/17 6:53:42 PM
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Drpooplol posted...
loafy013 posted...
WilliamPorygon posted...
I hate when a boss battle takes 15 fucking minutes and the first 10 minutes are pointless busywork you have to redo every time you inevitably die at the ridiculously difficult final phase.

Yeah, I'm talking about you, Yooka-Laylee.

I thought you were talking about Nameless King in DS3. Took forever to get to his second phase, then one or 2 errors and you die before you can really learn his moveset. Back to phase one again.

I honestly think it's one of the worst bosses in the series. I'd rather fight the bed of chaos. Yeah it's random, but it never takes me more than 2-3 tries to get past it.

That's a really strange opinion you've got there
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_KGC_
05/13/17 7:22:25 PM
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I don't mind it, even on other bosses that aren't the final boss.

Though a boss changing like 4 or 5 in a single fight is kinda ridiculous lol
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GiftedACIII
05/14/17 11:04:50 PM
#33:


ManSpread posted...
multi phase boss fights are fucking legit, too bad nobody on ce plays /realgames/ like Crimzon Clover (see video below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3sq3yKaDQ


@Cookie_Bag
@GiftedACIII

this is from my 1cc a few weeks ago (pls ignore my 2 incredibly stupid deaths)

Nice, putting it on my watchlist for tomorrow.
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prince_leo
05/14/17 11:07:18 PM
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I don't really mind phases, I just hate bosses that have a large HP/defense
it gets boring when you have the skill to beat it, it's just about wasting time. damage sponges are just lazy ways to develop a boss
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SoundNetwork
05/14/17 11:09:19 PM
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Dark Souls 3 does phases right. Final phases are just like the first phase but with a few extra movesets. You don't have to relearn the entire fight
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PtlessAgmnts
05/17/17 1:28:59 AM
#36:


Turtlebread posted...
yeah I don't like that shit either

what the hell
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Darmik
05/17/17 1:32:03 AM
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Western developers cannot design good boss fights for the most part. It's hilarious.
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Ricemills
05/17/17 1:42:04 AM
#38:


Hash-Brown posted...
SwayM posted...
and a large erect dick.

What games are you playing?


that's a staple for SMT bosses.
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Jet_Enduro101
05/17/17 1:43:58 AM
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I mean, what's the alternative? Boss fights that have the same length, but no phases so it just drags on? Boss fights with lower health bars so the fight doesn't drag on, but now they end too quickly? I'm actually interested in hearing your solutions to this perceived problem. I like phases because they allow you to learn and adapt as the fight goes on, and they keep the same fight interesting over longer periods of time by introducing mechanics mid fight in a progressive manner.
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Blue_Dream87
05/17/17 1:49:33 AM
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I prefer them to have multiple phases. Makes the fight much more dynamic and engaging. I mean like a one "phase" boss, you just get the strategy down and continue that for like 10 minutes. Multiple phases has you thinking on your toes more, gotta solve more puzzles and devise new strategies.
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IHeartRadiation
05/17/17 2:48:10 AM
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whopty fucking doo.


https://youtu.be/EIaV-4YcgGs?t=265
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SwayM
05/17/17 3:56:21 AM
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Jet_Enduro101 posted...
I mean, what's the alternative? Boss fights that have the same length, but no phases so it just drags on? Boss fights with lower health bars so the fight doesn't drag on, but now they end too quickly? I'm actually interested in hearing your solutions to this perceived problem. I like phases because they allow you to learn and adapt as the fight goes on, and they keep the same fight interesting over longer periods of time by introducing mechanics mid fight in a progressive manner.


Boss fights don't "drag on" typically unless they're poorly designed. There isn't a problem here that needs to be solved.
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CircleOfManias
05/17/17 10:43:31 AM
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It's a matter of how they're presented. Even though 3 phases each with their own 100HP health bar and 3 phases on the same 300HP health bar with phase changes at the 2/3 and 1/3 marks can be the exact same fight, the latter feels like it's adding variety, the former feels like it's stretching out the fight.
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philsov
05/17/17 10:51:42 AM
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I blame Dr. Wily for starting this trend.
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GiftedACIII
05/19/17 2:53:36 AM
#45:


ManSpread posted...
multi phase boss fights are fucking legit, too bad nobody on ce plays /realgames/ like Crimzon Clover (see video below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3sq3yKaDQ


@Cookie_Bag
@GiftedACIII

this is from my 1cc a few weeks ago (pls ignore my 2 incredibly stupid deaths)

Nice lol. Got pretty intense once the guy started chasing you around. You can definitely feel a sense of progress with each phase
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ManSpread
05/19/17 3:57:23 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
ManSpread posted...
multi phase boss fights are fucking legit, too bad nobody on ce plays /realgames/ like Crimzon Clover (see video below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3sq3yKaDQ


@Cookie_Bag
@GiftedACIII

this is from my 1cc a few weeks ago (pls ignore my 2 incredibly stupid deaths)

Nice lol. Got pretty intense once the guy started chasing you around. You can definitely feel a sense of progress with each phase

yeah, i flew into the boss like an idiot

twice
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Mormaurd
05/19/17 4:00:28 AM
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xBloodBrotherx posted...
I'm okay with the phases where they're triggered to change at __% depletion but when you take the health bat away and then it comes back that grinds my fucking gears hard.

This. Bloodborne did this for just about every boss, and it was great.
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GiftedACIII
05/19/17 4:00:30 AM
#48:


ManSpread posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
ManSpread posted...
multi phase boss fights are fucking legit, too bad nobody on ce plays /realgames/ like Crimzon Clover (see video below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3sq3yKaDQ


@Cookie_Bag
@GiftedACIII

this is from my 1cc a few weeks ago (pls ignore my 2 incredibly stupid deaths)

Nice lol. Got pretty intense once the guy started chasing you around. You can definitely feel a sense of progress with each phase

yeah, i flew into the boss like an idiot

twice

Did you know it was coming? Him deciding to ram into you himself was extremely sudden and would've definitely gotten me.
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Uncle_Drew
05/20/17 10:36:34 PM
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Yeah, I got so tired of fighting sister freakin freide's first two phases only to get smacked at her 3rd. Then it's respawn try and blast through the first two again and save estus for the actual fight

It's just annoying
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TableFlip
05/20/17 10:38:52 PM
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I liked Cave Story's true final boss.
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