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FrisbeeDude 05/11/17 12:38:39 PM #1:	http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/11/the-colin-kaepernick-alternative-facts-continue-to-percolate/related/ When it comes to Colin Kaepernick’s ongoing unemployment, I feel like I’m constantly being lied to. The evidence continues to mount of an effort by NFL teams to push false narratives about Kaepernick. And they’re working. In March, as the lack of interest in Kaepernick became more glaring, someone told Dan Graziano of ESPN.com that Kaepernick wants both a salary in the range of $9 million to $10 million per year and a chance to compete for a starting job. The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants. The truth doesn’t matter, because nearly two months later the perception lingers that Kaepernick wants both a salary in the range of $9 million to $10 million per year and a chance to compete for a starting job. Then there were the concerns about Kaepernick’s diet, which were articulated even as folks were marveling at Tom Brady’s avocado ice cream obsession, with no fear that he may be missing out on the protein and nutrients necessary to thrive on a football field by not scarfing down steaks and burgers and ribs and other assorted man meats. More recently, Peter King of TheMMQB.com cited unnamed 49ers sources who believe that Kaepernick “might actually rather do social justice work full-time than play quarterback.” That notion was quickly shot down, but in this age of alternative facts the availability of the truth doesn’t matter. What matters is equipping those who see the world a certain way with something tangible to which they can point to support those views, regardless of whether it’s accurate. --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:878898436] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/11/the-colin-kaepernick-alternative-facts-continue-to-percolate/related/ When it comes to Colin Kaepernick’s ongoing unemployment, I feel like I’m constantly being lied to. The evidence continues to mount of an effort by NFL teams to push false narratives about Kaepernick. And they’re working. In March, as the lack of interest in Kaepernick became more glaring, someone told Dan Graziano of ESPN.com that Kaepernick wants both a salary in the range of $9 million to $10 million per year and a chance to compete for a starting job. The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants. The truth doesn’t matter, because nearly two months later the perception lingers that Kaepernick wants both a salary in the range of $9 million to $10 million per year and a chance to compete for a starting job. Then there were the concerns about Kaepernick’s diet, which were articulated even as folks were marveling at Tom Brady’s avocado ice cream obsession, with no fear that he may be missing out on the protein and nutrients necessary to thrive on a football field by not scarfing down steaks and burgers and ribs and other assorted man meats. More recently, Peter King of TheMMQB.com cited unnamed 49ers sources who believe that Kaepernick “might actually rather do social justice work full-time than play quarterback.” That notion was quickly shot down, but in this age of alternative facts the availability of the truth doesn’t matter. What matters is equipping those who see the world a certain way with something tangible to which they can point to support those views, regardless of whether it’s accurate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/11/17 12:40:36 PM #2:	FrisbeeDude posted... The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants. Then his agent is terrible and not doing his job. Since it's almost unfathomable that an agent is not actively calling on teams to try to get his client signed, I actually don't even believe this part. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878898548] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants.</quote> Then his agent is terrible and not doing his job. Since it's almost unfathomable that an agent is not actively calling on teams to try to get his client signed, I actually don't even believe this part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/11/17 12:41:18 PM #3:	Guy who was at Kaepernicks last charity event is on Dan Le Batard show right now is shooting down every rumor regarding what his asking price/demand for a starting job. Spoke to him directly. Literally only asking for an invite to a training camp Edit: It was Dave Zirin of The Nation. Essentially, he's arguing this is a disinformation campaign by the league to demonstrate at the end of the day, it's a true meritocracy (which this story threatens to undermine) --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:878898589] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>Guy who was at Kaepernicks last charity event is on Dan Le Batard show right now is shooting down every rumor regarding what his asking price/demand for a starting job. Spoke to him directly. Literally only asking for an invite to a training camp Edit: It was Dave Zirin of The Nation. Essentially, he's arguing this is a disinformation campaign by the league to demonstrate at the end of the day, it's a true meritocracy (which this story threatens to undermine)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/11/17 12:41:43 PM #4:	The Admiral posted... FrisbeeDude posted... The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants. Then his agent is terrible and not doing his job. Since it's almost unfathomable that an agent is not actively calling on teams to try to get his client signed, I actually don't even believe this part. of course you don't, because you've been trying to push that BS with no real source for months now, and now that it might turn out to be false you'd rather just ignore it than admit you've been wrong. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:878898609] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants.</quote> Then his agent is terrible and not doing his job. Since it's almost unfathomable that an agent is not actively calling on teams to try to get his client signed, I actually don't even believe this part.</quote> of course you don't, because you've been trying to push that BS with no real source for months now, and now that it might turn out to be false you'd rather just ignore it than admit you've been wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/11/17 12:43:00 PM #5:	With how desperate NFL teams are for talent, they'd take practically anyone who could provide them insurance in case their QB went down. Point being - Kap sucks. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:878898685] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>With how desperate NFL teams are for talent, they'd take practically anyone who could provide them insurance in case their QB went down. Point being - Kap sucks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/11/17 12:43:03 PM #6:	TheVipaGTS posted... of course you don't, because you've been trying to push that BS with no real source for months now, and now that it might turn out to be false you'd rather just ignore it than admit you've been wrong. The source was literally listed in the article and was reported by every sports media outlet. If those reports were false, then his agent is incompetent for never addressing it in over a month. More likely, that was the ask and there is zero interest in Kaep at that range, so he's backpedaling. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878898688] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>of course you don't, because you've been trying to push that BS with no real source for months now, and now that it might turn out to be false you'd rather just ignore it than admit you've been wrong. </quote> The source was literally listed in the article and was reported by every sports media outlet. If those reports were false, then his agent is incompetent for never addressing it in over a month. More likely, that was the ask and there is zero interest in Kaep at that range, so he's backpedaling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/11/17 12:43:28 PM #7:	If he really doesn't care about the money he should go to the CFL --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:878898716] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>If he really doesn't care about the money he should go to the CFL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/11/17 12:43:45 PM #8:	Jay Cutler is still a free agent, too. I'd take him over anyone else at this point if I was dying for a QB. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:878898729] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>Jay Cutler is still a free agent, too. I'd take him over anyone else at this point if I was dying for a QB.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 05/11/17 12:45:05 PM #9:	The Admiral posted... FrisbeeDude posted... The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants. Then his agent is terrible and not doing his job. Since it's almost unfathomable that an agent is not actively calling on teams to try to get his client signed, I actually don't even believe this part. Or the agent has contacted teams on Kaep's behalf and was rejected before they could even progress to contract talks. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:878898803] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>The truth was, and still is, that no one knows what Kaepernick wants, because the conversation has never progressed to the point where anyone has asked Kaepernick or his agents what he wants.</quote> Then his agent is terrible and not doing his job. Since it's almost unfathomable that an agent is not actively calling on teams to try to get his client signed, I actually don't even believe this part.</quote> Or the agent has contacted teams on Kaep's behalf and was rejected before they could even progress to contract talks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/11/17 12:46:02 PM #10:	The Admiral posted... TheVipaGTS posted... of course you don't, because you've been trying to push that BS with no real source for months now, and now that it might turn out to be false you'd rather just ignore it than admit you've been wrong. The source was literally listed in the article and was reported by every sports media outlet. If those reports were false, then his agent is incompetent for never addressing it in over a month. More likely, that was the ask and there is zero interest in Kaep at that range, so he's backpedaling. If a team isn't interested in a player it wouldn't get to the negotiation stages....He's also not going to hurt their leverage on the negotiation end by starting at a low number before he gets a work out.... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:878898870] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>of course you don't, because you've been trying to push that BS with no real source for months now, and now that it might turn out to be false you'd rather just ignore it than admit you've been wrong. </quote> The source was literally listed in the article and was reported by every sports media outlet. If those reports were false, then his agent is incompetent for never addressing it in over a month. More likely, that was the ask and there is zero interest in Kaep at that range, so he's backpedaling.</quote> If a team isn't interested in a player it wouldn't get to the negotiation stages....He's also not going to hurt their leverage on the negotiation end by starting at a low number before he gets a work out....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/11/17 12:49:10 PM #11:	I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to have a similar playing style to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:878899050] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to have a similar playing style to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 05/11/17 12:50:19 PM #12:	Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:878899122] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/11/17 12:52:52 PM #13:	I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: They're are legit professionals saying this dude can still play in the league, especially since guys like Luke McCown are getting starting jobs. It isn't these supposed whiney liberals making a case for Kaepernick --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:878899255] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: They're are legit professionals saying this dude can still play in the league, especially since guys like Luke McCown are getting starting jobs. It isn't these supposed whiney liberals making a case for Kaepernick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/11/17 12:53:45 PM #14:	Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. What was the Niners record again? --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:878899311] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> What was the Niners record again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/11/17 12:55:53 PM #15:	So I've hated Kaep from the day he took the job from Smith (who would have won a superbowl) and swore I wouldn't root for the niners til Harbaugh and Kaep were gone. That said he's definitely got the talent to be at least a back up and I'm actually surprised he doesn't have a contract with Houston already. Anyways I'm not someone who thinks his protest is singlehandedly keeping him out of the league and I'm also not someone that was upset with his protest. What I will say is the guy stares down the first option, has no touch and can't read a defense. His biggest weapon were his feet and that dropped a lot once teams had tape on him. The only seasons he looked good were played behind a great line with a great running back, and good receiving Corp. All that said he's a solid back up/fringe starter. Teams don't take a media circus for that. Same reason Tebow couldn't keep a back up job. So yes his protest is keeping him out but not because of the protest but the media that came with it. Tim Brady or Aaron Rodgers could have the same protest and 30 teams would still sign them. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878899461] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>So I've hated Kaep from the day he took the job from Smith (who would have won a superbowl) and swore I wouldn't root for the niners til Harbaugh and Kaep were gone. That said he's definitely got the talent to be at least a back up and I'm actually surprised he doesn't have a contract with Houston already. Anyways I'm not someone who thinks his protest is singlehandedly keeping him out of the league and I'm also not someone that was upset with his protest. What I will say is the guy stares down the first option, has no touch and can't read a defense. His biggest weapon were his feet and that dropped a lot once teams had tape on him. The only seasons he looked good were played behind a great line with a great running back, and good receiving Corp. All that said he's a solid back up/fringe starter. Teams don't take a media circus for that. Same reason Tebow couldn't keep a back up job. So yes his protest is keeping him out but not because of the protest but the media that came with it. Tim Brady or Aaron Rodgers could have the same protest and 30 teams would still sign them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 05/11/17 12:56:28 PM #16:	Iodine posted... Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. LMAO Chip Kelly's offense was anything but traditional. Fuck outta here with that bullshit. --- GTX 980 \| i7-4770k @ 4.0 GHz \| 16gb RAM Switch \| Wii U \| Wii \| GC \| N64 \| SNES \| NES \| PSTV \| PS4 \| PS3 \| PS2 \| PS1 \| 360 \| N3DS \| DSi \| GBA \| GBC \| Vita \| PSP <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:878899497] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> LMAO Chip Kelly's offense was anything but traditional. Fuck outta here with that bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 05/11/17 12:58:58 PM #17:	Caution999 posted... What was the Niners record again? Was he the QB? No. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:878899631] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>What was the Niners record again?</quote> Was he the QB? No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/11/17 12:59:38 PM #18:	Bishop9800 posted... Caution999 posted... What was the Niners record again? Was he the QB? No. Teams don't lose on purpose in the NFL. If he wasn't good enough to start....then.... well... --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:878899675] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>What was the Niners record again?</quote> Was he the QB? No.</quote> Teams don't lose on purpose in the NFL. If he wasn't good enough to start....then.... well...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/11/17 1:00:45 PM #19:	Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. Did you watch him play? I watched all 16 niner games. Not only did he get beat for the top spot by literally Blaine gabbert. He did manage to win one game and cost the team first overall. That was cool of him. He didn't flourish and before you bring up stats they are greatly inflated by playing way behind and putting up garbage time numbers. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878899735] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> Did you watch him play? I watched all 16 niner games. Not only did he get beat for the top spot by literally Blaine gabbert. He did manage to win one game and cost the team first overall. That was cool of him. He didn't flourish and before you bring up stats they are greatly inflated by playing way behind and putting up garbage time numbers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 05/11/17 1:01:31 PM #20:	Caution999 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Caution999 posted... What was the Niners record again? Was he the QB? No. Teams don't lose on purpose in the NFL. If he wasn't good enough to start....then.... well... Huh? He didn't start earlier because he was injured. Kaep was considerably better than Gabbert was last year. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:878899780] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>What was the Niners record again?</quote> Was he the QB? No.</quote> Teams don't lose on purpose in the NFL. If he wasn't good enough to start....then.... well...</quote> Huh? He didn't start earlier because he was injured. Kaep was considerably better than Gabbert was last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/11/17 1:01:41 PM #21:	Caution999 posted... Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. What was the Niners record again? He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:878899791] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> What was the Niners record again?</quote> He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/11/17 1:03:26 PM #22:	What was the Niners record again? Calls others casuals Proceeds to use W/L record as a viable stat My loins... --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:878899901] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>What was the Niners record again? Calls others casuals Proceeds to use W/L record as a viable stat My loins...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 05/11/17 1:03:35 PM #23:	FrisbeeDude posted... Then there were the concerns about Kaepernick’s diet Didn't seem to hurt Tony Gonzalez. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:878899912] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Then there were the concerns about Kaepernick’s diet</quote> Didn't seem to hurt Tony Gonzalez.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/11/17 1:04:29 PM #24:	TheVipaGTS posted... Caution999 posted... Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. What was the Niners record again? He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:878899957] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> What was the Niners record again?</quote> He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible?</quote> Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/11/17 1:04:34 PM #25:	Bishop9800 posted... Caution999 posted... What was the Niners record again? Was he the QB? No. He was for 11 games and in that time he won as many games as gabbert did in 5 --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878899961] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>What was the Niners record again?</quote> Was he the QB? No.</quote> He was for 11 games and in that time he won as many games as gabbert did in 5</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/11/17 1:06:58 PM #26:	FrisbeeDude posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Caution999 posted... Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. What was the Niners record again? He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878900107] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> What was the Niners record again?</quote> He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible?</quote> Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats</quote> Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/11/17 1:09:45 PM #27:	Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Caution999 posted... What was the Niners record again? Was he the QB? No. Teams don't lose on purpose in the NFL. If he wasn't good enough to start....then.... well... Huh? He didn't start earlier because he was injured. Kaep was considerably better than Gabbert was last year. No need to lie. He was beat out in camp and preseason and gabbert was named the starter. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878900281] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>What was the Niners record again?</quote> Was he the QB? No.</quote> Teams don't lose on purpose in the NFL. If he wasn't good enough to start....then.... well...</quote> Huh? He didn't start earlier because he was injured. Kaep was considerably better than Gabbert was last year.</quote> No need to lie. He was beat out in camp and preseason and gabbert was named the starter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/11/17 1:11:33 PM #28:	Me- Did you watch him play? I watched all 16 niner games. Not only did he get beat for the top spot by literally Blaine gabbert. He did manage to win one game and cost the team first overall. That was cool of him. He didn't flourish and before you bring up stats they are greatly inflated by playing way behind and putting up garbage time numbers... You- He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? Why you do this --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878900404] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>Me- Did you watch him play? I watched all 16 niner games. Not only did he get beat for the top spot by literally Blaine gabbert. He did manage to win one game and cost the team first overall. That was cool of him. He didn't flourish and before you bring up stats they are greatly inflated by playing way behind and putting up garbage time numbers... You- He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? Why you do this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 05/11/17 1:12:32 PM #29:	The Admiral posted... FrisbeeDude posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Caution999 posted... Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. What was the Niners record again? He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that. Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist. --- (scene missing) <cite>Amputation posted [p:878900469] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> What was the Niners record again?</quote> He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible?</quote> Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats</quote> Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that.</quote> Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 05/11/17 1:14:31 PM #30:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... No need to lie. He was beat out in camp and preseason and gabbert was named the starter. No. He was still injured. And just had surgery. When Gabbet won two or three gamea, the idiot coach thought he was the best. Now look at where that got him. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:878900582] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote> No need to lie. He was beat out in camp and preseason and gabbert was named the starter.</quote> No. He was still injured. And just had surgery. When Gabbet won two or three gamea, the idiot coach thought he was the best. Now look at where that got him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/11/17 1:17:29 PM #31:	Amputation posted... Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist. LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know who is obsessed with black QBs, look no further. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878900731] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Amputation posted...</cite> <quote> Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist.</quote> LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know who is obsessed with black QBs, look no further.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 05/11/17 1:18:18 PM #32:	The Admiral posted... FrisbeeDude posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Caution999 posted... Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. What was the Niners record again? He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that. Not really. Among QBs with at least 100 attempts, Kaep had the 13th highest passing TD%. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:878900768] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> What was the Niners record again?</quote> He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible?</quote> Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats</quote> Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that.</quote> Not really. Among QBs with at least 100 attempts, Kaep had the 13th highest passing TD%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 05/11/17 1:19:31 PM #34:	The Admiral posted... Amputation posted... Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist. LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know is obsessed with black QBs, look no further. Weak argument? I didn't even present an argument, lol. It's an observation. Is "weak argument!" some kind of auto-response to any comment someone directs toward you? "Hey Admiral, nice day, right?" "Haha, weak argument!" --- (scene missing) <cite>Amputation posted [p:878900850] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Amputation posted...</cite> <quote> Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist.</quote> LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know is obsessed with black QBs, look no further.</quote> Weak argument? I didn't even present an argument, lol. It's an observation. Is "weak argument!" some kind of auto-response to any comment someone directs toward you? "Hey Admiral, nice day, right?" "Haha, weak argument!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/11/17 1:19:46 PM #35:	Colin is a shit QB. He has a strong arm and is mobile but the guy can't read a defense. If his first read isn't open, he gets lost. Sometimes it turns into a big play because of his elite athleticism and most of the time, either nothing happens or something bad happens. The guy isn't a good QB. He could be a good RB though or even a WR if he developed some pass catching skills. Guy can motor around the field with the best of them. He just isn't a NFL QB. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:878900868] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>Colin is a shit QB. He has a strong arm and is mobile but the guy can't read a defense. If his first read isn't open, he gets lost. Sometimes it turns into a big play because of his elite athleticism and most of the time, either nothing happens or something bad happens. The guy isn't a good QB. He could be a good RB though or even a WR if he developed some pass catching skills. Guy can motor around the field with the best of them. He just isn't a NFL QB.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/11/17 1:20:53 PM #36:	The Admiral posted... Amputation posted... Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist. LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know who is obsessed with black QBs, look no further. How many topics on the Freddie Gray trial did you have? --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:878900940] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Amputation posted...</cite> <quote> Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist.</quote> LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know who is obsessed with black QBs, look no further.</quote> How many topics on the Freddie Gray trial did you have?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 05/11/17 1:21:38 PM #37:	Iodine posted... The Admiral posted... FrisbeeDude posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Caution999 posted... Iodine posted... Caution999 posted... I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot. Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. What was the Niners record again? He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible? Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that. Not really. Among QBs with at least 100 attempts, Kaep had the 13th highest passing TD%. I'm curious as to how many of these TDs were thrown when the game was already out of reach --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:878900974] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I think what a lot of casuals aren't getting is this: Kaep has only flourished in the read-option offense. He's played like crap in traditional offenses. The read-option is NOT popular anymore. When your starting QB goes down, you don't want to install an ENTIRELY new playbook for the backup. Ideally, you want the backup to play similar to your starter. This REALLY LIMITS Kaep's potential landing spot.</quote> Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> What was the Niners record again?</quote> He played in 12 games, had 16 TDs to 4 INTs and had a QBs or 90.7....are we just going to ignore the fact that the entire Niners team was terrible?</quote> Only casuals use win/loss record while omitting the stats</quote> Only casuals don't understand garbage times stats in football. The 49ers were never in most of their games, and the opposing defense reflected that.</quote> Not really. Among QBs with at least 100 attempts, Kaep had the 13th highest passing TD%.</quote> I'm curious as to how many of these TDs were thrown when the game was already out of reach</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/11/17 1:22:36 PM #38:	Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him.... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:878901030] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 05/11/17 1:24:26 PM #39:	FrisbeeDude posted... The Admiral posted... Amputation posted... Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist. LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know who is obsessed with black QBs, look no further. How many topics on the Freddie Gray trial did you have? How many Muslim topics has he made? --- (scene missing) <cite>Amputation posted [p:878901154] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Amputation posted...</cite> <quote> Of course Admiral shows a disproportionate amount of interest and criticism toward an African American football player/activist.</quote> LOL, whatt a weak argument. However, this is like the 4th topic on Kaepernick in the last month by the TC. If you want to know who is obsessed with black QBs, look no further.</quote> How many topics on the Freddie Gray trial did you have?</quote> How many Muslim topics has he made?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/11/17 1:25:00 PM #40:	ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878901193] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 05/11/17 1:26:19 PM #41:	J E S U S posted... I'm curious as to how many of these TDs were thrown when the game was already out of reach Kaepernick threw the majority of his TDs on the first drives before collapsing for the rest of the game. He threw 5 TDs in the second half of games last year. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:878901273] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>J E S U S posted...</cite> <quote> I'm curious as to how many of these TDs were thrown when the game was already out of reach</quote> Kaepernick threw the majority of his TDs on the first drives before collapsing for the rest of the game. He threw 5 TDs in the second half of games last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 05/11/17 1:27:34 PM #42:	TheVipaGTS posted... Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him.... Gabbert doesn't come with a media circus and gabbert is more adaptable than Kaep. All that said he's a solid back up/fringe starter. Teams don't take a media circus for that. Same reason Tebow couldn't keep a back up job. So yes his protest is keeping him out but not because of the protest but the media that came with it. Tim Brady or Aaron Rodgers could have the same protest and 30 teams would still sign them. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:878901356] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him....</quote> Gabbert doesn't come with a media circus and gabbert is more adaptable than Kaep. All that said he's a solid back up/fringe starter. Teams don't take a media circus for that. Same reason Tebow couldn't keep a back up job. So yes his protest is keeping him out but not because of the protest but the media that came with it. Tim Brady or Aaron Rodgers could have the same protest and 30 teams would still sign them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/11/17 1:27:42 PM #43:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest. Again, it isn't "dem SJWs" arguing that this guy can play in this league and that guys like mark Sanchez, Luke McCown and Blaine gabbert getting jobs before is fairly absurd. Former coach, players and analysts have argued he can still play. Take your head outta the sand --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:878901366] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest.</quote> Again, it isn't "dem SJWs" arguing that this guy can play in this league and that guys like mark Sanchez, Luke McCown and Blaine gabbert getting jobs before is fairly absurd. Former coach, players and analysts have argued he can still play. Take your head outta the sand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 05/11/17 1:27:50 PM #44:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest. It is fairly ridiculous to make this statement and still think Kaep was in any way bad last year. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:878901378] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest.</quote> It is fairly ridiculous to make this statement and still think Kaep was in any way bad last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/11/17 1:27:57 PM #45:	TheVipaGTS posted... Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him.... Gabbert isn't very good, but his style of play actually fits with the Cardinals. In other words, the team doesn't need to relearn the offensive playbook if Palmer goes down. Kaep doesn't fit in that system. Not to mention, Gabbert is not a major distraction. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878901384] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him....</quote> Gabbert isn't very good, but his style of play actually fits with the Cardinals. In other words, the team doesn't need to relearn the offensive playbook if Palmer goes down. Kaep doesn't fit in that system. Not to mention, Gabbert is not a major distraction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/11/17 1:28:43 PM #46:	Kaep is Krap, that's why he doesn't have a job --- Who fears to walk upon the grass? But it is the grass that hides the viper from his enemies and shelters him until he strikes. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:878901438] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>Kaep is Krap, that's why he doesn't have a job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 05/11/17 1:28:53 PM #47:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him.... Gabbert doesn't come with a media circus and gabbert is more adaptable than Kaep. All that said he's a solid back up/fringe starter. Teams don't take a media circus for that. Same reason Tebow couldn't keep a back up job. So yes his protest is keeping him out but not because of the protest but the media that came with it. Tim Brady or Aaron Rodgers could have the same protest and 30 teams would still sign them. When the hell did Blaine fucking Gabbert show he was capable of effectively running a "traditional" offense? He has been horrible his entire career. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:878901456] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Kaepernick played better than Gabbert did last season, on the same team, in the same scenarios, with the same weapons.....Gabbert got signed before him....</quote> Gabbert doesn't come with a media circus and gabbert is more adaptable than Kaep. All that said he's a solid back up/fringe starter. Teams don't take a media circus for that. Same reason Tebow couldn't keep a back up job. So yes his protest is keeping him out but not because of the protest but the media that came with it. Tim Brady or Aaron Rodgers could have the same protest and 30 teams would still sign them.</quote> When the hell did Blaine fucking Gabbert show he was capable of effectively running a "traditional" offense? He has been horrible his entire career.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/11/17 1:29:05 PM #48:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest. I don't want him to have a job BECAUSE of his protests....I personally think he is a capable back up. FOH with that pretentious "scoff you just don't understand the game like we do" shit lmao... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:878901467] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: people that understand and watch football arguing against people that want Kaepernick to have a job because they support his protest.</quote> I don't want him to have a job BECAUSE of his protests....I personally think he is a capable back up. FOH with that pretentious "scoff you just don't understand the game like we do" shit lmao...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 05/11/17 1:29:23 PM #49:	I can't believe Gabbert truthers actually exist. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:878901486] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>I can't believe Gabbert truthers actually exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 05/11/17 1:29:23 PM #50:	Kyle1022 posted... Iodine posted... Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals. LMAO Chip Kelly's offense was anything but traditional. Fuck outta here with that bullshit. I was like what? --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:878901487] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyle1022 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Ran a traditional offense last year and was effective. Sounds like you are one of said casuals.</quote> LMAO Chip Kelly's offense was anything but traditional. Fuck outta here with that bullshit.</quote> I was like what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/11/17 1:30:15 PM #51:	people suddenly think Gabbert is Capable of doing anything in any offense....my sides... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:878901535] in The Colin ... [t:75334993]...</cite> <quote>people suddenly think Gabbert is Capable of doing anything in any offense....my sides...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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