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SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:08:19 PM #1:	I'll be honest, I've never actually played any Banjo games (hoping to change that in the near future), so I'm curious if the levels in those games are as confusing as the ones here. Seriously, it just plops you down in the world and it's just a mess of shit that really gives you no inkling of where to start. Genuine question: Is this just that "classic 3D platformer" feel, or is it one of the reasons Yooka-Laylee's been getting middling reviews? <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878430287] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>I'll be honest, I've never actually played any Banjo games (hoping to change that in the near future), so I'm curious if the levels in those games are as confusing as the ones here. Seriously, it just plops you down in the world and it's just a mess of shit that really gives you no inkling of where to start. Genuine question: Is this just that "classic 3D platformer" feel, or is it one of the reasons Yooka-Laylee's been getting middling reviews?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/03/17 10:08:56 PM #2:	modern gamers, folks --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:878430334] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:09:28 PM #3:	TheGoldenEel posted... modern gamers, folks You want to elaborate on that? <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878430364] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote> You want to elaborate on that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlazeJordan648 05/03/17 10:11:49 PM #4:	I picked up yooka laylee and played through the first world before stopping. I think it is probably very similar to banjo(never played any of the games) but there's less world's which are more dense so it's more confusing. <cite>BlazeJordan648 posted [p:878430498] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>I picked up yooka laylee and played through the first world before stopping. I think it is probably very similar to banjo(never played any of the games) but there's less world's which are more dense so it's more confusing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmegaVideoGameG 05/03/17 10:11:54 PM #5:	I just finished F-Zero X Master difficulty with all 30 characters. On topic, I watched Jim Sterling's video on this and I gotta say it certainly has Banjo Kazooie elements. --- My Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvAKSZj_4veP6V--pSoP61A <cite>OmegaVideoGameG posted [p:878430502] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>I just finished F-Zero X Master difficulty with all 30 characters. On topic, I watched Jim Sterling's video on this and I gotta say it certainly has Banjo Kazooie elements.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 05/03/17 10:12:34 PM #6:	How dare you insult me. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:878430537] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>How dare you insult me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/03/17 10:13:41 PM #7:	SuperGamer5 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... modern gamers, folks You want to elaborate on that? maybe it would be better if they gave you a bunch of waypoints iyo --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:878430596] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote> You want to elaborate on that?</quote> maybe it would be better if they gave you a bunch of waypoints iyo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:15:06 PM #8:	TheGoldenEel posted... SuperGamer5 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... modern gamers, folks You want to elaborate on that? maybe it would be better if they gave you a bunch of waypoints iyo Have you played YL? Don't turn this into a "hurr kids today don't want to think" discussion. The levels are (IMO) cluttered and confusing to navigate. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878430679] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote> You want to elaborate on that?</quote> maybe it would be better if they gave you a bunch of waypoints iyo</quote> Have you played YL? Don't turn this into a "hurr kids today don't want to think" discussion. The levels are (IMO) cluttered and confusing to navigate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/03/17 10:15:41 PM #9:	SuperGamer5 posted... Have you played YL? Don't turn this into a "hurr kids today don't want to think" discussion. The levels are (IMO) cluttered and confusing to navigate. yes i 100%'d it in two days not once did I find myself lost, or unable to find something to do --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:878430716] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote> Have you played YL? Don't turn this into a "hurr kids today don't want to think" discussion. The levels are (IMO) cluttered and confusing to navigate.</quote> yes i 100%'d it in two days not once did I find myself lost, or unable to find something to do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 05/03/17 10:16:00 PM #10:	YookaLaylee posted... How dare you insult me. Clicked this thread just to yah you --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:878430742] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote>How dare you insult me.</quote> Clicked this thread just to yah you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:17:10 PM #11:	TheGoldenEel posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Have you played YL? Don't turn this into a "hurr kids today don't want to think" discussion. The levels are (IMO) cluttered and confusing to navigate. yes i 100%'d it in two days not once did I find myself lost, or unable to find something to do Well kudos, I guess. I personally find the levels cumbersome and tedious at times to traverse, and I don't think I'm alone, considering the reviews the game's been getting. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878430811] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote> Have you played YL? Don't turn this into a "hurr kids today don't want to think" discussion. The levels are (IMO) cluttered and confusing to navigate.</quote> yes i 100%'d it in two days not once did I find myself lost, or unable to find something to do</quote> Well kudos, I guess. I personally find the levels cumbersome and tedious at times to traverse, and I don't think I'm alone, considering the reviews the game's been getting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/03/17 10:20:50 PM #12:	SuperGamer5 posted... Well kudos, I guess. I personally find the levels cumbersome and tedious at times to traverse, and I don't think I'm alone, considering the reviews the game's been getting. i don't see what's so confusing? you explore, you find challenges as you find them. there's no order, no need for direction, and there are 20-some challenges per level so it shouldn't be hard to find them. you don't need to be told "where to start"--you can start anywhere --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:878431005] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>Well kudos, I guess. I personally find the levels cumbersome and tedious at times to traverse, and I don't think I'm alone, considering the reviews the game's been getting.</quote> i don't see what's so confusing? you explore, you find challenges as you find them. there's no order, no need for direction, and there are 20-some challenges per level so it shouldn't be hard to find them. you don't need to be told "where to start"--you can start anywhere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 05/03/17 10:21:33 PM #13:	Not sure bout Kazooie, but Tooie had some levels like that. Mainly Terrydacty land (the worst level), Jolly Roger lagoon, and sorta Glitter Gulch mine <cite>PowerOats posted [p:878431044] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>Not sure bout Kazooie, but Tooie had some levels like that. Mainly Terrydacty land (the worst level), Jolly Roger lagoon, and sorta Glitter Gulch mine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolpal23 05/03/17 10:22:44 PM #14:	PowerOats posted... Terrydacty land fuck that stage so hard. --- Asus Z77\|Zotac 2Gb Gtx 770\| 1866 8Gb G.skill\| i5 3570K 3.4Ghz Steam: That Hero Luka "Fact and fiction, where do you draw the line?" <cite>coolpal23 posted [p:878431107] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerOats posted...</cite> <quote> Terrydacty land</quote> fuck that stage so hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:23:29 PM #15:	TheGoldenEel posted... you explore, you find challenges as you find them. I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878431151] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>you explore, you find challenges as you find them.</quote> I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/03/17 10:24:40 PM #16:	I backed Yooka-Laylee and have a Steam copy but I have no desire to play it at all. It sounds worse than the 3D platformers from 20 years ago. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878431214] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>I backed Yooka-Laylee and have a Steam copy but I have no desire to play it at all. It sounds worse than the 3D platformers from 20 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:25:17 PM #17:	Darmik posted... I backed Yooka-Laylee and have a Steam copy but I have no desire to play it at all. It sounds worse than the 3D platformers from 20 years ago. I was a backer which is the reason I have it and am currently playing it. Can't say I'd have picked it up otherwise. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878431249] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I backed Yooka-Laylee and have a Steam copy but I have no desire to play it at all. It sounds worse than the 3D platformers from 20 years ago.</quote> I was a backer which is the reason I have it and am currently playing it. Can't say I'd have picked it up otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 05/03/17 10:25:58 PM #18:	sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:878431290] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/03/17 10:26:20 PM #19:	SuperGamer5 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... you explore, you find challenges as you find them. I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in. TheGoldenEel posted... modern gamers, folks --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:878431306] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>you explore, you find challenges as you find them.</quote> I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in.</quote> <cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/03/17 10:27:22 PM #20:	Delirious_Beard posted... sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this it's much more like Kazooie, idk what TC's issue is Every level is just a collection of self-contained challenges, not like Tooie where you had to traverse between worlds just to get one Jiggy --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:878431356] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this</quote> it's much more like Kazooie, idk what TC's issue is Every level is just a collection of self-contained challenges, not like Tooie where you had to traverse between worlds just to get one Jiggy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:27:44 PM #21:	TheGoldenEel posted... SuperGamer5 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... you explore, you find challenges as you find them. I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in. TheGoldenEel posted... modern gamers, folks I'm glad you're so open to discussion. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878431377] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>you explore, you find challenges as you find them.</quote> I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in.</quote> <cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote></quote> I'm glad you're so open to discussion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/03/17 10:27:52 PM #22:	I heard there's not even like a task list or journal. So if you leave something for later you might not even remember what you're supposed to do. I think they misunderstood what makes a lot of these retro throwbacks good. The good ones aren't literally exact copies of the old games with no improvements. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878431384] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>I heard there's not even like a task list or journal. So if you leave something for later you might not even remember what you're supposed to do. I think they misunderstood what makes a lot of these retro throwbacks good. The good ones aren't literally exact copies of the old games with no improvements.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 05/03/17 10:28:37 PM #23:	TheGoldenEel posted... SuperGamer5 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... modern gamers, folks You want to elaborate on that? maybe it would be better if they gave you a bunch of waypoints iyo making excuses for bad level design smh --- http://i.imgur.com/K9jfKpU.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:878431426] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote> You want to elaborate on that?</quote> maybe it would be better if they gave you a bunch of waypoints iyo</quote> making excuses for bad level design smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/03/17 10:29:07 PM #24:	TheGoldenEel posted... Delirious_Beard posted... sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this it's much more like Kazooie, idk what TC's issue is Every level is just a collection of self-contained challenges, not like Tooie where you had to traverse between worlds just to get one Jiggy I thought you had to go back to worlds after they expand? That was another criticism I read. That it's not clear if you're able to get to certain areas or not yet. That wasn't in the original BK at all. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878431447] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this</quote> it's much more like Kazooie, idk what TC's issue is Every level is just a collection of self-contained challenges, not like Tooie where you had to traverse between worlds just to get one Jiggy</quote> I thought you had to go back to worlds after they expand? That was another criticism I read. That it's not clear if you're able to get to certain areas or not yet. That wasn't in the original BK at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:29:37 PM #25:	Darmik posted... I heard there's not even like a task list or journal. So if you leave something for later you might not even remember what you're supposed to do. I think they misunderstood what makes a lot of these retro throwbacks good. The good ones aren't literally exact copies of the old games with no improvements. TheGoldenEel posted... modern gamers, folks But really, I agree with you. Some kind of polish to bring it up to today's standards would have done wonders, IMO. I don't see what GoldenEel's post has to do with wanting better designed levels. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878431471] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I heard there's not even like a task list or journal. So if you leave something for later you might not even remember what you're supposed to do. I think they misunderstood what makes a lot of these retro throwbacks good. The good ones aren't literally exact copies of the old games with no improvements.</quote> <cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>modern gamers, folks</quote> But really, I agree with you. Some kind of polish to bring it up to today's standards would have done wonders, IMO. I don't see what GoldenEel's post has to do with wanting better designed levels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlazeJordan648 05/03/17 10:29:37 PM #26:	Did they fix the bad camera? Would like to continue playing it. <cite>BlazeJordan648 posted [p:878431472] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>Did they fix the bad camera? Would like to continue playing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
buddhamonster 05/03/17 10:29:42 PM #27:	SuperGamer5 posted... TheGoldenEel posted... you explore, you find challenges as you find them. I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in. That's like 90% of the gameplay though. Honestly, no insult or disrespect intended, this game doesn't sound like a good match for you. --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! <cite>buddhamonster posted [p:878431477] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>you explore, you find challenges as you find them.</quote> I don't really enjoy the exploring part too much. I feel that, with the way the levels are designed, it's overly difficult to keep track of where you've been and what other areas are open to exploring. And I'm not even asking for like a minimap or anything like that, just some way to better make heads or tails of whichever world you're in.</quote> That's like 90% of the gameplay though. Honestly, no insult or disrespect intended, this game doesn't sound like a good match for you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:30:14 PM #28:	Darmik posted... I thought you had to go back to worlds after they expand? That was another criticism I read. That it's not clear if you're able to get to certain areas or not yet. That wasn't in the original BK at all. This is absolutely true and a huge issue I have. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878431505] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I thought you had to go back to worlds after they expand? That was another criticism I read. That it's not clear if you're able to get to certain areas or not yet. That wasn't in the original BK at all. </quote> This is absolutely true and a huge issue I have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 05/03/17 10:31:18 PM #29:	buddhamonster posted... Honestly, no insult or disrespect intended, this game doesn't sound like a good match for you. I mean, maybe it's not, but what I really meant there was that I'm not enjoying it in YL as a result of the level design. Exploring can be a blast... if the levels are fun to do said exploring. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:878431561] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>buddhamonster posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, no insult or disrespect intended, this game doesn't sound like a good match for you. </quote> I mean, maybe it's not, but what I really meant there was that I'm not enjoying it in YL as a result of the level design. Exploring can be a blast... if the levels are fun to do said exploring.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/03/17 10:31:19 PM #30:	Darmik posted... TheGoldenEel posted... Delirious_Beard posted... sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this it's much more like Kazooie, idk what TC's issue is Every level is just a collection of self-contained challenges, not like Tooie where you had to traverse between worlds just to get one Jiggy I thought you had to go back to worlds after they expand? That was another criticism I read. That it's not clear if you're able to get to certain areas or not yet. That wasn't in the original BK at all. tbh that is a valid criticism. but it costs so few Pagies to expand worlds that you'll probably have enough to expand them all by the time you get to them after the first world (which only costs three total pagies to unlock and expand) i never even entered a level until i had fully expanded it --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:878431564] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>sounds like banjo tooie glad i didn't buy this</quote> it's much more like Kazooie, idk what TC's issue is Every level is just a collection of self-contained challenges, not like Tooie where you had to traverse between worlds just to get one Jiggy</quote> I thought you had to go back to worlds after they expand? That was another criticism I read. That it's not clear if you're able to get to certain areas or not yet. That wasn't in the original BK at all.</quote> tbh that is a valid criticism. but it costs so few Pagies to expand worlds that you'll probably have enough to expand them all by the time you get to them after the first world (which only costs three total pagies to unlock and expand) i never even entered a level until i had fully expanded it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 05/03/17 10:37:04 PM #31:	That's pretty much how a lot of the worlds in Kazooie and Tooie were. Plopped right into a level and you just have to explore yourself. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:878431896] in What the h... [t:75309040]...</cite> <quote>That's pretty much how a lot of the worlds in Kazooie and Tooie were. Plopped right into a level and you just have to explore yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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