Current Events > Trump doesn't agree with the "archaic" rules of the legislature.

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Doom_Art
04/29/17 10:38:35 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/29/trump-is-now-talking-about-consolidating-his-own-power/

You know, we'd all be less worried about Trump being a fascist if he stopped acting like a fascist.

In an interview with Fox News that aired Friday night, Trump dismissed the "archaic" rules of the House and Senate using that word four times and suggested they needed to be streamlined for the good of the country.

A sampling:

We don't have a lot of closers in politics, and I understand why: It's a very rough system. It's an archaic system

You look at the rules of the Senate, even the rules of the House but the rules of the Senate and some of the things you have to go through %u2014 it's really a bad thing for the country, in my opinion. They're archaic rules. And maybe at some point we're going to have to take those rules on, because, for the good of the nation, things are going to have to be different

You can't go through a process like this. It's not fair. It forces you to make bad decisions. I mean, you're really forced into doing things that you would normally not do except for these archaic rules.


And then Trump came out and just said it: He doesn't like the filibuster.

I think, you know, the filibuster concept is not a good concept to start off with," he said.

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Ampelas
04/29/17 10:41:02 AM
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Sounds like the idiot wants to nuke the legislative filibuster next...
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Steve Nick
04/29/17 10:41:06 AM
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it's ok for everyone to talk about how stupid as shit congress is, but Trump can't say it?
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Antifar
04/29/17 10:42:22 AM
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The filibuster and the Senate are deeply undemocratic and yes, archaic, though I don't believe Trump is criticizing them for the same reasons I would.
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Doom_Art
04/29/17 10:42:23 AM
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Ampelas posted...
Sounds like the idiot wants to nuke the legislative filibuster next...

Good luck getting Congress to agree with that

Steve Nick posted...
it's ok for everyone to talk about how stupid as shit congress is, but Trump can't say it?

He can talk shit about it all he likes. Talking about neutering it because he's unhappy with his shitty-ass agenda getting bogged down is a whole other animal.
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AzureAnihilator
04/29/17 10:47:10 AM
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There are plenty of valid reasons to speak out against congress, Nick. Do you really think Trump is looking at it the way the average person does? To him, Congress is a nanny that's not letting him play with his new toys. It's not quite the same.
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lilORANG
04/29/17 10:49:48 AM
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I have a hard time imagining Trump saying "archaic"
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wah_wah_wah
04/29/17 10:51:55 AM
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Antifar posted...
The filibuster and the Senate are deeply undemocratic and yes, archaic, though I don't believe Trump is criticizing them for the same reasons I would.
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Sayoria
04/29/17 11:05:36 AM
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Ampelas posted...
Sounds like the idiot wants to nuke the legislative filibuster next...


Filibusters are dead as of the Gorsuch nomination. They went nuclear and completely trashed filibustering. Never again.
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lilORANG
04/29/17 11:06:19 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Ampelas posted...
Sounds like the idiot wants to nuke the legislative filibuster next...


Filibusters are dead as of the Gorsuch nomination. They went nuclear and completely trashed filibustering. Never again.


He's talking about the legislative filibuster
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Antifar
04/29/17 11:06:39 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Filibusters are dead as of the Gorsuch nomination. They went nuclear and completely trashed filibustering. Never again.

That's not what happened there
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Rexdragon125
04/29/17 11:16:32 AM
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Damn those checks and balances getting in my way
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Steve Nick
04/29/17 4:38:55 PM
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Steve Nick posted...

it's ok for everyone to talk about how stupid as shit congress is, but Trump can't say it?

He can talk shit about it all he likes. Talking about neutering it because he's unhappy with his shitty-ass agenda getting bogged down is a whole other animal.



To play devil's advocate, if you think something is stupid, and you have the power to change it, wouldn't you?


But I'll agree that the precedent is extremely scary.
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mustachedmystic
04/29/17 4:49:27 PM
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Well boo fucking hoo. Someone should tell him he's the President, not the god damn Furher.
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Steve Nick
04/29/17 4:51:26 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Well boo fucking hoo. Someone should tell him he's the President, not the god damn Furher.



führer - Maybe you should look up the definition of it. It just means leader in German.
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pinky0926
04/29/17 4:51:26 PM
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Essentially he has zero respect for the republic and doesn't understand that he's a servant. He's trying to run the country like a private business, and doesn't seem to have any self-awareness that the only way to "streamline" these things is to set up a totalitarian dictatorship. Which is exactly how a business is run.
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P01ntyDmonspank
04/29/17 4:53:03 PM
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Someone collect a bunch of tweets Trump made praising Republicans for filibustering the Obama administration
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Doom_Art
04/29/17 4:54:33 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
führer - Maybe you should look up the definition of it. It just means leader in German.

He was clearly referencing when Adolf Hitler merged the offices of President and Chancellor into one position and consolidated dictatorial powers in said position.

"Fuhrer" means leader, sure, but it has certain connotations because of its history.
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mustachedmystic
04/29/17 4:55:38 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Well boo fucking hoo. Someone should tell him he's the President, not the god damn Furher.



führer - Maybe you should look up the definition of it. It just means leader in German.


I should have said dictator, but you know damn well what the vast majority of people are referring to when they say fuhrer. I don't know how to type letters with umlauts over them
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Steve Nick
04/29/17 5:16:42 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Steve Nick posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Well boo fucking hoo. Someone should tell him he's the President, not the god damn Furher.



führer - Maybe you should look up the definition of it. It just means leader in German.


I should have said dictator, but you know damn well what the vast majority of people are referring to when they say fuhrer. I don't know how to type letters with umlauts over them



I just thought the comparison between English words and non-English words to be a bit ridiculous.
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G_G
04/29/17 5:18:22 PM
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whats a filibuster
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Sayoria
04/29/17 5:56:34 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Well boo fucking hoo. Someone should tell him he's the President, not the god damn Furher.



führer - Maybe you should look up the definition of it. It just means leader in German.


Tell that to the mods. I called Trump that once and got a 10KL for it.
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Steve Nick
04/29/17 6:17:28 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Steve Nick posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Well boo fucking hoo. Someone should tell him he's the President, not the god damn Furher.



führer - Maybe you should look up the definition of it. It just means leader in German.


Tell that to the mods. I called Trump that once and got a 10KL for it.



Well, I mean it's obvious you were trying to compare him to Hitler.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/29/17 6:20:30 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Essentially he has zero respect for the republic and doesn't understand that he's a servant. He's trying to run the country like a private business, and doesn't seem to have any self-awareness that the only way to "streamline" these things is to set up a totalitarian dictatorship. Which is exactly how a business is run.

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CmndrHurricane
04/29/17 6:27:10 PM
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wow, he actually has a point for once. did not expect that
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Paragon21XX
04/29/17 6:27:36 PM
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The filibuster was an accident started by Aaron Burr when he expressed his opinion that the rule known as "previous question" was redundant. The House still has it so the filibuster is impossible there, but the Senate was never meant to have it from the beginning.
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zDonKEY_K0ngz
04/29/17 6:29:12 PM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Essentially he has zero respect for the republic and doesn't understand that he's a servant. He's trying to run the country like a private business, and doesn't seem to have any self-awareness that the only way to "streamline" these things is to set up a totalitarian dictatorship. Which is exactly how a business is run.
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I4NRulez
04/29/17 6:30:01 PM
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Just feels like Trump is just now realizing the president can't do whatever the fuck he wants

Its like after all the EOs he signed no one went to him and said "the president doesnt have absolute power"
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UnholyMudcrab
04/29/17 6:30:57 PM
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Convenient that the filibuster only becomes a problem once it stops being useful to the Republicans.

Also, the rule sure didn't seem all that archaic to Trump back in 2013:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/403960097346293760
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prince_leo
04/29/17 6:30:57 PM
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while I do agree he has a point, I think he sees it more of a "I don't like being told 'no' by my perceived lessers" than anything else
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thronedfire2
04/29/17 6:32:19 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
Sayoria posted...
Steve Nick posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Well boo fucking hoo. Someone should tell him he's the President, not the god damn Furher.



führer - Maybe you should look up the definition of it. It just means leader in German.


Tell that to the mods. I called Trump that once and got a 10KL for it.



Well, I mean it's obvious you were trying to compare him to Hitler.


And why should that be moddable?
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St0rmFury
04/30/17 2:54:46 AM
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prince_leo posted...
while I do agree he has a point, I think he sees it more of a "I don't like being told 'no' by my perceived lessers" than anything else

What I think too.
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