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Kazi1212
04/25/17 1:15:14 PM
#102:


The financial firms are giving him his dues for lining up their pockets, Obama frankly deserves it for lhow rich he made them in his 8 years, nothing to see here.
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QuantumScript
04/25/17 1:49:11 PM
#103:


QuantumScript posted...
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Yes, and the fact that in your mind Barack Obama falls into the same category is very, very funny.


how has the Venezuelan government changed your opinions on what leftism is really like?


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Antifar
04/25/17 1:57:32 PM
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I don't think it's taught us anything we didn't already know: It's hard to go it alone, capital and other outside forces will undermine the left at every available opportunity (a regular theme in Latin America, I'm afraid), reliance on a single resource is problematic in multiple ways, and the confluence of these obstacles makes anything approaching utopia (or even just lasting success) difficult, nearing impossible in what was already a poor country.
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QuantumScript
04/25/17 2:00:22 PM
#105:


Antifar posted...
I don't think it's taught us anything we didn't already know: It's hard to go it alone, capital and other outside forces will undermine the left at every available opportunity (a regular theme in Latin America, I'm afraid), reliance on a single resource is problematic in multiple ways, and the confluence of these obstacles makes anything approaching utopia (or even just lasting success) difficult, nearing impossible in what was already a poor country.


So you haven't learned anything, then. Blaming it on their reliance on oil is misguided. They've been nationalizing shit for years even before the oil bust. It's been a gradual decay. The people there voted in their current and prior leaders with the intention of nationalizing shit and redistributing the wealth. I'm not sure how many more examples of this you'll need to see before you understand that it just won't work no matter where it is tried.
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UnfairRepresent
04/25/17 2:16:36 PM
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I think it would do more damage to the democrats if they went "Our official position is we don't want to earn money when it's offered."

Barmy did the smart thing here
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Kim Kusanagi
04/25/17 2:18:57 PM
#108:


Hash-Brown posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
It's the exact same shit that turned people away from Hillary.

Stupid people.

How'd that election go for you?


P good. Hillary won the popular vote, the EC ran by a bunch of apes decided they wanted to see the world end, tho.
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KiwiTerraRizing
04/25/17 2:19:58 PM
#109:


Making that mad cash!!! My boy Obama is ballin'
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Kim Kusanagi
04/25/17 2:21:55 PM
#110:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Antifar posted...
Former President Barack Obama has agreed to speak at a Wall Street conference for $400,000,

Jesus Christ


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Antifar
04/25/17 2:25:54 PM
#112:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I think it would do more damage to the democrats if they went "Our official position is we don't want to earn money when it's offered."

If Hillary Clinton had done that, she'd be president.
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Antifar
04/25/17 2:26:40 PM
#113:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
the EC ran by a bunch of apes decided they wanted to see the world end,

The EC responded to the votes of people in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, who weirdly didn't think Hillary was out for their best interests
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Kim Kusanagi
04/25/17 2:28:54 PM
#114:


Antifar posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
the EC ran by a bunch of apes decided they wanted to see the world end,

The EC responded to the votes of people in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, who weirdly didn't think Hillary was out for their best interests


One thing does not contradict the other.
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GetStumped
04/25/17 2:35:17 PM
#115:


obummer taking credit for trump's doing zzz just lock him up already pls.
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MaverickXeo
04/25/17 2:39:02 PM
#116:


toptopmax posted...
your original post was about how Obama did nothing for the market, which was straight up wrong. But keep shitposting it up. Its all you have...


He continued the trend of increasing debt. He did some stuff for the market; most of which was not good though.
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UnfairRepresent
04/25/17 3:31:43 PM
#117:


Antifar posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I think it would do more damage to the democrats if they went "Our official position is we don't want to earn money when it's offered."

If Hillary Clinton had done that, she'd be president.

WTF

Clinton has been collecting big money from all corners of the Earth including dirty mounds for the best part of 40 years
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Antifar
04/25/17 3:33:45 PM
#118:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Clinton has been collecting big money from all corners of the Earth including dirty mounds for the best part of 40 years

Right; what I'm saying is "had she not done that, she would be president."
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mario2000
04/25/17 3:46:57 PM
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redhats told me that obama was a weak lazy ineffective president who is taking over the world with his shadow government
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weapon_d00d816
04/25/17 3:48:06 PM
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Antifar
04/25/17 3:50:22 PM
#122:


Asherlee10 posted...
Was that the catalyst? I guess I thought it was the "emails."

The election was close enough that just about anything could be considered the "straw that broke the camel's back." I think her Wall Street speeches and unwillingness to be transparent with the public when called on them certainly contributed to her loss.
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UnfairRepresent
04/25/17 4:05:05 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
J3kyLNb

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Asherlee10 posted...
Antifar posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Was that the catalyst? I guess I thought it was the "emails."

The election was close enough that just about anything could be considered the "straw that broke the camel's back." I think her Wall Street speeches and unwillingness to be transparent with the public when called on them certainly contributed to her loss.


Agreed.

Disagree

I think her "We have it in the bag, let's not give a crap about the rust belt." bit her in the ass.

Her campaign literally just assumed she would win states and so didn't bother campaigning in them. Meanwhile Donald went into over-drive.

It was dumb. They massively overestimated the power of "Yeah we're awful but come on he's Donald Trump!" as an argument.
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k darkfire
04/25/17 4:39:32 PM
#125:


Asherlee10 posted...
k darkfire posted...
Obama proving once again he's a crook. 400k to give a shitty speech? fuck him.

Asherlee10 posted...


On this rare occasion, I agree with @Saloonist. I see no issue with Obama taking a speaking fee from this company. I literally cannot think of a viable reason why this is somehow "wrong."

I do speaking engagements a few times a year for a fee, does this mean I'm some soulless schmuck like Obama?


Yes.


lol - please elaborate. I'm all ears to learn how I'm a soulless schmuck for providing a social media for small businesses seminar to SBDCs around Texas.


A public servant serves the public. He's giving those crooks at Wall Street a reach around as he gives them tax payer money to fuck us. Forcing people to pay to get a speech or even a visit is disgusting. Why should I or anyone pay you to give me a speech? Trump sure as a F don't give outrageous speaking fees. Maybe that's why the people of America overwhelmingly support him.
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Vermander
04/25/17 4:40:58 PM
#126:


pikachupwnage posted...
Speaking fees are such a bullshit scam.

University's need to stop agreeing to pay so fucking much for this shit.


Well what else are they gonna do with the 100s of million they make off of raping student via tuition?
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ThePieReborn
04/25/17 4:41:48 PM
#127:


Vermander posted...
Well what else are they gonna do with the 100s of million they make off of raping student via tuition?

Throw it at athletic departments in a tragically futile effort to go back to their glory days?
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UnfairRepresent
04/25/17 4:45:23 PM
#128:


k darkfire posted...
Forcing people to pay to get a speech or even a visit is disgusting. Why should I or anyone pay you to give me a speech?

Because they are good at speaking or otherwise are knowledgable.

If you don't want to pay them you don't have to.
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k darkfire
04/25/17 4:46:38 PM
#129:


UnfairRepresent posted...
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Said knowledge should not be paid for. We're asking them to talk. I don't tell my new workers "Sorry, you gotta pay before I can teach you anything". You're literally defending a criminal.
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UnfairRepresent
04/25/17 4:49:04 PM
#130:


k darkfire posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
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Said knowledge should not be paid for. We're asking them to talk. I don't tell my new workers "Sorry, you gotta pay before I can teach you anything". You're literally defending a criminal.

And these people are not Obama's workers.

If your workers wanted you to teach them Japanese you'd have every right to go "No." and then if they said "Well what if we offered you $100,000" you have every right to accept or decline.

Calling it crimminal is dumb.
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Kineth
04/25/17 6:04:53 PM
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Kim Kusanagi
04/25/17 6:05:02 PM
#135:


@k_darkfire stole kasket darkfyre's account, @Asherlee10
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Kim Kusanagi
04/25/17 6:24:34 PM
#137:


Kasket Darkfyre was a guy who wrote good FAQs and made good posts.

This other one isn't any of those.
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Darmik
04/25/17 6:32:04 PM
#138:


Is this anything unusual for public figures? I mean I hear stories about celebs getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to DJ at a party a lot. Tbh I'd go to a Ba-rock Obama concert so maybe he should do that instead.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
04/25/17 7:15:40 PM
#141:


pikachupwnage posted...
Balkov posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Speaking fees are such a bullshit scam.

University's need to stop agreeing to pay so fucking much for this shit.


It isn't a university, it's a financial firm according to the article.


Okay literally everyone needs to stop if.

Why the fuck is Obama speaking at a financial firm? What can he teach them that is worth 400K? How to increase their debt?

How to reduce their deficit
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voldothegr8
04/25/17 7:21:59 PM
#142:


shockthemonkey posted...
Darmik posted...
Is this anything unusual for public figures? I mean I hear stories about celebs getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to DJ at a party a lot. Tbh I'd go to a Ba-rock Obama concert so maybe he should do that instead.

This is completely normal but apparently people are too busy being crazy to notice.

Celebrities aren't former presidents, surprisingly Antifar hit the nail on the head here.

Antifar posted...
I hold the view that Harry Truman did; it's unbecoming of a president to go right from office to sucking at Wall Street's teat. I have no illusions about where Obama sucked from in office, but maybe something like this will convince those who spent years feeling Obama was a progressive constrained by DC reality.

The presidency shouldn't be a stepping stone to corporate wealth.

Antifar posted...
This shit gives credence to critics on the left and (more pressingly) the right who say that Obama and the establishment politics he represents have sold out to corporate interests. Even if you assume pure intentions on the part of Obama, Clinton, etc., their willingness to hobknob with these sorts of people is bad optics that undermines their agenda and efforts to implement it.

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Kim Kusanagi
04/25/17 7:23:55 PM
#143:


the indoctrinated trumpanzee shows up
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voldothegr8
04/25/17 7:26:58 PM
#144:


I've been posting itt more like the regressive brigade came storming in.

"fuck greedy rich people except the greedy rich people we like"
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Darmik
04/25/17 7:29:14 PM
#145:


I kinda figured that Presidents generally make money from stuff like public speeches and books after their Presidencies are done. A behind the scenes book from Trump (and anyone dealing with him) is gonna make a lot of money. Do we even know what his speech is about? Some people are acting like he's pitching some get rich quick schemes.
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Antifar
04/25/17 7:42:08 PM
#146:


shockthemonkey posted...
Darmik posted...
Is this anything unusual for public figures? I mean I hear stories about celebs getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to DJ at a party a lot. Tbh I'd go to a Ba-rock Obama concert so maybe he should do that instead.

This is completely normal but apparently people are too busy being crazy to notice.

It is normal: should it be? Should we hold our public officials to higher standards?
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Jagr_68
04/25/17 7:48:14 PM
#147:


Lmfao retired or not, you'd have to be fucking demented to turn down 400k.

Bunch of goddamn self-righteous hypocrites ITT
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k darkfire
04/25/17 10:23:50 PM
#148:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
Kasket Darkfyre was a guy who wrote good FAQs and made good posts.

This other one isn't any of those.


Do you really and earnestly think I was ever him? Really? REALLY?
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Kim Kusanagi
04/25/17 11:02:28 PM
#149:


k darkfire posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Kasket Darkfyre was a guy who wrote good FAQs and made good posts.

This other one isn't any of those.


Do you really and earnestly think I was ever him? Really? REALLY?


I clearly said you aren't

Your processor Is clearly not working
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UnfairRepresent
04/27/17 7:21:26 PM
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