Board 8 > extha's Russel Westbrook MVP watch

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game winner tonight, ain't no thang

and the loss to Harden's team on Sunday only makes Russ's argument stronger IMO.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

and the loss to Harden's team on Sunday only makes Russ's argument stronger IMO.

in denial because of the money you're gonna lose huh
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he's still not going to win
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Kawhi tho
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KommunistKoala posted...

in denial because of the money you're gonna lose huh

more like confirming that Harden's supporting cast is miles above Russ's.
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So I got bored, looked at reddit and see the Celtics are the 1 seed in the East right now

Huh
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ExThaNemesis posted...

more like confirming that Harden's supporting cast is miles above Russ's.

which literally everybody already knew before that game

so nothing changed
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He should win but he probably won't
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Muscle.

Chestbrook.
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another performance that sadly will not win him the MVP
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57

triple double

game tying shot with 7 seconds left in regulation

7/12 of team's points in overtime

I'm sorry about the problems you have with your brain if you don't think this man is the hands down MVP of the league.
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oh and it clinched a playoff spot for his team.
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I mean my god, the Orlando crowd was chanting "MVP!" for him in the fourth
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ExThaNemesis posted...

I'm sorry about the problems you have with your brain if you don't think this man is the hands down MVP of the league.

I think he is

but the voters won't

didn't win enough
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Harden is probably winning even though I'd bust a nut if they gave it to Kawhi. This is a good year for basketball.
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Kawhi or LeBron true MVPs but Harden is okay too
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LeonhartFour posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

I'm sorry about the problems you have with your brain if you don't think this man is the hands down MVP of the league.

I think he is

but the voters won't

didn't win enough

oh my god

he has eight less wins than Harden's team with a far worse supporting cast.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

he has eight less wins than Harden's team with a far worse supporting cast.

I would not say "far" worse
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can you speak to who Harden has that makes his supporting cast so much better than Westbrook's?
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transience posted...

can you speak to who Harden has that makes his supporting cast so much better than Westbrook's?

Clearly #2 draft pick Victor Oladipo is dragging down the Thunder
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ExThaNemesis posted...

he has eight less wins than Harden's team with a far worse supporting cast.

most voters I've seen publicly talk about who they're leaning toward have said Harden over Westbrook

also Harden's Rockets were basically Westbrook's Thunder last year

just split the difference and give Westbrook the MVP, D'Antoni Coach of the Year, and Dwight Howard LVP
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UltimaterializerX posted...

He's going to win because he'll average a triple double, even though Kawhi or Lebron are vastly better players this year. It's like people forgot turnovers were a stat; Westbrook is going to DESTROY the turnover record.

Harden's averaging more turnovers this season, but ok
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where did he mention Harden?
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transience posted...

where did he mention Harden?

Not sure if you're asking me or not

If you are, I thought Ulti meant that Westbrook had a bunch of turnovers to go along with his triple-doubles (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Yes but he's saying Kawhi or LeBron should win over Westbrook because of turnovers, not Harden
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KommunistKoala posted...

Yes but he's saying Kawhi or LeBron should win over Westbrook because of turnovers, not Harden

Alright, my bad
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Lebron's got 300 turnovers himself this year. he's not as high but he's been up there for years.

I think it's a natural evolution of basketball. Harden is like 27-11-8 and Westbrook is 31-10-10. of course you're gonna turn it over when you have the ball that much. Leonard isn't up there in TOs because he's not getting 8 assists a game.
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Kawhi and Lebron play defense though

and better than most people
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LeBron hasn't been playing as much defense as he normally does because he's saving it up for the playoff run.
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yeah I think Lebron has kind of disqualified himself these last couple of weeks as his team has mailed in the rest of the regular season.

he's still the best in the game though
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Kahwi would be solid but his numbers are just too... uh I dunno, quiet?

I would be ok with a Co-MVP actually.
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No Co-MVP imo. Would you still win your bet?
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I'm gonna call it a win on a technicality that the wording of the bet was "Russel Westbrook will win MVP" and not "Only Russel Westbrook will win MVP."
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okay at first I thought the topic title was a typo but you actually think his name is spelled "Russel"
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also there's not going to be a tie

I think Harden will win fairly comfortably
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two l's whatever
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Russ sets up Oladipo with a beautiful full court pass

Oladipo misses the dunk.

Ugh.
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God that was awful to watch.

Russ's team is so bad.
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ya go my Spurs

Kawhi making his MVP push
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they had that one won, man
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ExThaNemesis posted...

God that was awful to watch.

Russ's team is so bad.

The worst team in the league.
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except for KAWHI baby

MVP MVP MVP MVP

he had his big moment blocking Harden's game-winner a few weeks ago too

MVP MVP MVP MVP
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EmDubyaSee posted...

The worst team in the league.

did Westbrook stop playing and that's why they lost?
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Kawhi really should get MVP by virtue of being the only real candidate that plays both ways.

But it'll never happen because no one gives a damn about defense in the NBA.
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NBIceman posted...

Kawhi really should get MVP by virtue of being the only real candidate that plays both ways.

But it'll never happen because no one gives a damn about defense in the NBA.

http://deadspin.com/oh-will-you-shut-up-about-defense-already-1793108892

Look at his on-court/off-court numbers, from the NBA’s stats site. When Kawhi’s on the court, the Spurs’ defensive rating (the number of points they give up per 100 possessions) is 103.7, the second-worst among members of San Antonio’s regular rotation. When he’s off the court, it shrinks to an astounding 95.6—they literally play their best defense when the two-time reigning DPOY is on the bench.

Is that because Kawhi’s not actually a good defender? Hell no. He’s a great defender. If you had one final possession to protect a one-point lead in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, you’d almost certainly want Kawhi Leonard defending the ball-handler over anybody else in the entire NBA. No, the Spurs are a better defensive team when he’s off the court because, in general, great individual defense doesn’t actually matter all that much!
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Not_an_Owl posted...

If you had one final possession to protect a one-point lead in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, you’d almost certainly want Kawhi Leonard defending the ball-handler over anybody else in the entire NBA.

you're darn right you would

http://imgur.com/QmnfkeJ
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Not_an_Owl posted...

NBIceman posted...

Kawhi really should get MVP by virtue of being the only real candidate that plays both ways.

But it'll never happen because no one gives a damn about defense in the NBA.

http://deadspin.com/oh-will-you-shut-up-about-defense-already-1793108892

Look at his on-court/off-court numbers, from the NBA’s stats site. When Kawhi’s on the court, the Spurs’ defensive rating (the number of points they give up per 100 possessions) is 103.7, the second-worst among members of San Antonio’s regular rotation. When he’s off the court, it shrinks to an astounding 95.6—they literally play their best defense when the two-time reigning DPOY is on the bench.

Is that because Kawhi’s not actually a good defender? Hell no. He’s a great defender. If you had one final possession to protect a one-point lead in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, you’d almost certainly want Kawhi Leonard defending the ball-handler over anybody else in the entire NBA. No, the Spurs are a better defensive team when he’s off the court because, in general, great individual defense doesn’t actually matter all that much!

http://i.imgur.com/seh6p.gif
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