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TheRock1525
01/17/12 1:32:00 PM
#51:


I assume baby still dies, though.

Well, yeah, but I'm free of any guilt.

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SupremeZero
01/17/12 1:33:00 PM
#53:


From: TheRock1525 | #051
I assume baby still dies, though.

Well, yeah, but I'm free of any guilt.


If you're thinking of it like that at all, I doubt you'll find yourself free of guilty feelings.

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LeonhartFour
01/17/12 1:33:00 PM
#54:


From: TheRock1525 | #051
I assume baby still dies, though.

Well, yeah, but I'm free of any guilt.


You're technically a conspirator.

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Aecioo
01/17/12 1:34:00 PM
#55:


no don't kill Justin Crossing :(

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FashnQueenEtna
01/17/12 1:34:00 PM
#56:


From: SantaRPG | #252
Well by all legal and religious laws you still are the murderer

now you just have another murderer dragged in on this with you


Isin't there guilt by inaction?

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JaKyL25
01/17/12 1:34:00 PM
#57:


From: SupremeZero | #053
If you're thinking of it like that at all, I doubt you'll find yourself free of guilty feelings.


Yes he would.

Because there's no more suffering in the world, including for him.

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TheRock1525
01/17/12 1:34:00 PM
#58:


Except I'm non-involved in the situation at that point. I just inform someone else of the situation and walk away.

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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:34:00 PM
#59:


From: Biolizard28 | #050
You wouldn't.

That's not a challenge, that's a statement.


And yet there are plenty of documented cases of people sacrificing themselves to save women, children, their friends, family, or even strangers.

From: SupremeZero | #047
... an 8 person philosophy class? The hell is that?


School has a whopping 600 kids and only juniors and seniors can take electives with this new scheduling system. That just ends up happening. I had a computer science class of just me once.

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XIII_rocks
01/17/12 1:34:00 PM
#60:


JaKyL25 posted...
The "kill one to save 5" thing is definitely interesting the more you stretch it out.

Would you kill 300 innocents to save 301 innocents?


If you hit the button there, there would be 301 less innocent people in the world.

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Huff n puff 20
01/17/12 1:35:00 PM
#61:


Oh dammit, its this Scenario.
I'm going to go kill Remiel now... because you made me think it, and now that *****bag of a boss has to die.

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SlymDayspring
01/17/12 1:35:00 PM
#62:


You wouldn't.

That's not a challenge, that's a statement.


lol

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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:35:00 PM
#63:


From: XIII_rocks | #060
If you hit the button there, there would be 301 less innocent people in the world.


BOOM

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Falcon120
01/17/12 1:35:00 PM
#64:


There was a similar question like this brought up in my philosophy class, only from a real life situation that actually happened.

There was this baby that was born without any nervous system or something like that, don't remember what it was exactly. I just know they had no brain function so could not think or even do anything and was going to die after 3 days or so regardless of what any doctors would do to try and help them survive, it was impossible. They were guaranteed to die.

In the same hospital, there were a few babies that would've been better off with some transplants that they could've gotten by killing that baby off earlier. Wouldn't have felt a thing either.

The parents were okay with doing this, but the hospital refused to allow it on the grounds that it would've been immoral, despite the fact that the baby would've died anyway. They were claiming some bull like God's will has a purpose for keeping this kid alive for these few days, he is still an innocent life that should be allowed to live, killing is wrong no matter what, and all this crap. Even though, again, the baby was going to die anyway and could've been used to save multiple other babies.

In the end, they didn't kill the baby, it died, and the others weren't saved.

If you ask me, the immoral decision in both this case and yours would be to NOT kill the baby.

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SupremeZero
01/17/12 1:36:00 PM
#65:


From: JaKyL25 | #057
Yes he would.

Because there's no more suffering in the world, including for him.


That's only by my logic that has yet to be commented on~!

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Biolizard28
01/17/12 1:37:00 PM
#66:


From: special_sauce | #059
And yet there are plenty of documented cases of people sacrificing themselves to save women, children, their friends, family, or even strangers.


And those people are extraordinary.

Cyclo is not an extraordinary person. I've read his posts for long enough to know this to be true.

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Liquid Wind
01/17/12 1:37:00 PM
#67:


You wouldn't.

That's not a challenge, that's a statement.


people have killed people that are close to them, or committed suicide, for something they perceive as a greater good before. why do you always treat this kind of thing as so outlandish?
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SupremeZero
01/17/12 1:37:00 PM
#68:


From: Falcon120 | #064
There was a similar question like this brought up in my philosophy class, only from a real life situation that actually happened.

There was this baby that was born without any nervous system or something like that, don't remember what it was exactly. I just know they had no brain function so could not think or even do anything and was going to die after 3 days or so regardless of what any doctors would do to try and help them survive, it was impossible. They were guaranteed to die.

In the same hospital, there were a few babies that would've been better off with some transplants that they could've gotten by killing that baby off earlier. Wouldn't have felt a thing either.

The parents were okay with doing this, but the hospital refused to allow it on the grounds that it would've been immoral, despite the fact that the baby would've died anyway. They were claiming some bull like God's will has a purpose for keeping this kid alive for these few days, he is still an innocent life that should be allowed to live, killing is wrong no matter what, and all this crap. Even though, again, the baby was going to die anyway and could've been used to save multiple other babies.

In the end, they didn't kill the baby, it died, and the others weren't saved.

If you ask me, the immoral decision in both this case and yours would be to NOT kill the baby.


... this sounds like an odd hospital.

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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:37:00 PM
#69:


From: Xiahou Shake | #046
A much more interesting version of the typical "kill one to save many" question is the one about the perfect society.
Imagine that there's a perfect society. They want for nothing, and everyone lives in absolute physical and mental bliss. However, to accomplish this marvel of civilization, they must make one child's life an unending hell. Aside from this kid's life being miserable, everything else is absolutely perfect. Would such a thing be worth it?


I don't know!!! I want to say yes but it's so sad :(((

Be my new philosophy teacher.

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Falcon120
01/17/12 1:38:00 PM
#70:


SupremeZero posted...
... this sounds like an odd hospital.

ikr? Might've been because of some protestors or something but I don't remember. Been a while since I read that.

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XIII_rocks
01/17/12 1:39:00 PM
#71:


Those extraordinary people were probably ordinary, but driven to the extraordinary by the situation they were in. I have faith that everyone in this topic could do something extraordinary in the right circumstances.

Except you, Bio.

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VincentLauw
01/17/12 1:40:00 PM
#72:


Xiii vs bio rap battle hype

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Liquid Wind
01/17/12 1:40:00 PM
#73:


And those people are extraordinary.

it doesn't take an extraordinary person to do something suicidal, you see cults and extremists convincing ordinary people to do it all the time. when someones beliefs are strong enough these things are possible, and something like "completely end world suffering" is pretty damn powerful
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XIII_rocks
01/17/12 1:41:00 PM
#75:


Heh

Don't say such things. I'm already preparing to leave the board in shame when I lose.

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XIII_rocks
01/17/12 1:41:00 PM
#76:


SantaRPG posted...
here's a question

if you had to kill biolizard and you could save 50 cents per gallon every time you filled up on gas for the rest of your life, would you kill him?


...

Thinking.

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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:43:00 PM
#77:


From: SantaRPG | #074
if you had to kill biolizard and you could save 50 cents per gallon every time you filled up on gas for the rest of your life, would you kill him?


No because then I would buy more gas (naturally), and the global suffering of the world would increase as I used up all of our precious resources!!

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SupremeZero
01/17/12 1:43:00 PM
#78:


From: Liquid Wind | #073
And those people are extraordinary.

it doesn't take an extraordinary person to do something suicidal, you see cults and extremists convincing ordinary people to do it all the time. when someones beliefs are strong enough these things are possible, and something like "completely end world suffering" is pretty damn powerful


They extraordinarily believe that they'll be saved if they do stupid ****.

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FashnQueenEtna
01/17/12 1:44:00 PM
#79:


From: SantaRPG | #354
here's a question

if you had to kill biolizard and you could save 50 cents per gallon every time you filled up on gas for the rest of your life, would you kill him?


I'm pretty sure i'd spend a lot more gas being on the run for murder.

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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:45:00 PM
#80:


technically you couldn't press both buttons if the first one killed you though
you would have to enlist a friend and he would get all your glory :(

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Falcon120
01/17/12 1:45:00 PM
#81:


FashnQueenEtna posted...
I'm pretty sure i'd spend a lot more gas being on the run for murder.

Nah, just use some of the gas to burn the body.

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XIII_rocks
01/17/12 1:45:00 PM
#82:


special_sauce posted...
From: SantaRPG | #074
if you had to kill biolizard and you could save 50 cents per gallon every time you filled up on gas for the rest of your life, would you kill him?
No because then I would buy more gas (naturally), and the global suffering of the world would increase as I used up all of our precious resources!!


Ohhh good thinking. You are reprieved, Bio.

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OmarsComin
01/17/12 1:47:00 PM
#83:


I would kill MWC for free
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muddersmilk
01/17/12 1:47:00 PM
#84:


They were claiming some bull like God's will has a purpose for keeping this kid alive for these few days

I would think it is far more likely that God's "will" and "purpose" for this child born with no nervous system and guarenteed to die soon is to be used as a donor to save some other kids.

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Biolizard28
01/17/12 1:48:00 PM
#85:


From: XIII_rocks | #071
I have faith that everyone in this topic could do something extraordinary in the right circumstances.


Oh, let me guess. "If your son and/or daughter were trapped in a burning building, everyone (Except Biolizard because I dislike him for some reason I cannot explain) on this board would totally rush in and save them."

What about a stranger?

What about a person you hate?

This board is all about preserving its own social circles. They'd do anything for a limited number of people, but would never go above and beyond for an "outsider." I have my doubts that any of you would die for the sake of mankind, you'd only die for the .0001% of mankind you give a s*** about.

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SovietOmega
01/17/12 1:50:00 PM
#86:


is there any penalty for pressing the first button 7+ billion times? maybe setting up a robot arm to keep pushing it so that when you get picked the work of making the world without suffering can continue?

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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:51:00 PM
#87:


From: Biolizard28 | #085
you'd only die for the .0001% of mankind you give a s*** about.


But those are still included in mankind...
It's a lot easier to save EVERYONE YOU'VE EVER MET than just your son
and I would save my son, I hope, if I had one.

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SupremeZero
01/17/12 1:52:00 PM
#89:


From: SovietOmega | #086
is there any penalty for pressing the first button 7+ billion times? maybe setting up a robot arm to keep pushing it so that when you get picked the work of making the world without suffering can continue?


I don't think we've broken 7 billion yet, have we?

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OmarsComin
01/17/12 1:53:00 PM
#90:


mostly I would rescue kids and dogs from burning buildings. if it's an adult, they can rescue their own self.
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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:53:00 PM
#91:


Yeah
October 31st was 7 billion

The problem with "burning building" is that there's a real chance of failure where neither person lives

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Biolizard28
01/17/12 1:54:00 PM
#92:


From: special_sauce | #087
But those are still included in mankind...


But it's like buying a box of cereal for the toy inside and then throwing all the cereal away.

As far as you're concerned, all the people in the world you aren't close with can burn in hell. You're only doing what you do for a ridiculously small minority.

Is that not shallow? Are these not poor intentions?

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Liquid Wind
01/17/12 1:54:00 PM
#93:


Oh, let me guess. "If your son and/or daughter were trapped in a burning building, everyone (Except Biolizard because I dislike him for some reason I cannot explain) on this board would totally rush in and save them."

What about a stranger?

What about a person you hate?

This board is all about preserving its own social circles. They'd do anything for a limited number of people, but would never go above and beyond for an "outsider." I have my doubts that any of you would die for the sake of mankind, you'd only die for the .0001% of mankind you give a s*** about.


there are only two people I would voluntarily die for but I'm probably the worst example of philanthropy ever, I really don't elevate "mankind" at all and consider us to be just another animal on this planet. I think a decent number of people would hit that button if it was their own life attached to it, you're gonna die anyway, you can go out being the savior of the world or you can go out being unable to walk around much, not being able to eat anything without getting explosive bowel movements, seeing most of the people you used to know disappear around you. **** I've almost talked myself into it, I can save the world or I can live to be a miserable old person...
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Falcon120
01/17/12 1:56:00 PM
#94:


SovietOmega posted...
is there any penalty for pressing the first button 7+ billion times? maybe setting up a robot arm to keep pushing it so that when you get picked the work of making the world without suffering can continue?



Made me think of this.

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special_sauce
01/17/12 1:56:00 PM
#95:


I don't know but it doesn't support your argument that Cyclo wouldn't push the button

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th3l3fty
01/17/12 1:57:00 PM
#97:


counter-argument: the only way the second button could end human suffering would be by killing every human being

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Huff n puff 20
01/17/12 1:58:00 PM
#98:


K, so loaded file 5, killed that bastard, beat the traitor, got my ass kicked, and shut off my 'cube. Thanks for making this topic and making me do that.

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OmarsComin
01/17/12 1:58:00 PM
#99:


I am skeptical of this whole rubble thing as anything except a convenient hero plot device

need a tragedy or a heroic sacrifice? rubble baby
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Shoenin_Kakashi
01/17/12 1:58:00 PM
#100:


I would press the button.
I follow Surak's philosophy, even if it is cold.

There's a lot of stuff I should also type out, but I don't think it's necessary to type as it drags on too much.

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