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Tom Bombadil
01/19/12 12:48:00 AM
#51:


Didn't she say she started learning because of Shizune? I could've made that up because I tend to make up crap like that without realizing it, but coming in just for a scholarship doesn't seem possible. I'm going with the dev's idea too.

And yeah, I am hype. Shizune wound up being my ex in the end, but Rin is already my current girl turned up to 11, and I haven't even started her route yet. I have super high expectations for this route, and I think the game might actually be able to live up to them.

and if not there's still Lilly and I guess Emi

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01/19/12 1:00:00 AM
#52:


Tom Bombadil posted...
DO we know what Misha's deal is exactly? There's the stairs thing and the sleeping at night thing but it's never really spelled out, and I highly doubt we'd find out in another route.

RIN is next. I am hype.


No, we never figure out.

Shizune's 2nd scene is probably the best H-scene in the game. Lilly's are probably somewhat close though. Pretty much everything beats Hanako's though because as you noted, Hanako isn't for sex.

Rin route is hype indeed.

Shizune wound up being my ex in the end, but Rin is already my current girl turned up to 11, and I haven't even started her route yet. I have super high expectations for this route, and I think the game might actually be able to live up to them.

Be prepared to have all notions of how Rin's route will go be completely shattered. In a good way.

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Tom Bombadil
01/19/12 1:07:00 AM
#53:


Still digesting.

It bugs me that Hisao and Shizune aren't really sticking together after school. Even in high school, for better or for worse, I was always aiming for something more permanent, so "well I'll probably see her again someday I will chase her shadow" is....not that satisfying for me as a resolution for their romance. After all that, I want them to ride off into the sunset together to beat the world into submission and happiness. That is what I would've tried to do in that situation. It may or may not have been a good idea, but what I am trying to say is that "welp school's over guess we're done with this whole dating thing" is kinda a foreign concept to me. Much like sex, zing. While on paper I like the idea of stories with not-necessarily-100%-perfect endings, in actuality it usually bugs me when I get them. They weren't even that great of a couple but dammit they are supposed to be together forever now :\

I think I might've enjoyed "ten years later" kinda epilogues for each route, or something. Well, I don't think I'd actually like it if it had happened, but it's still kinda interesting wondering how things wind up later.

There was not enough Gardad. I wanted to know him better. What made him tick, why he never learned sign, where mom was, whether he was ACTUALLY that big an ass or just joking with me or testing me, what he did for a living, what all was in the bio, how good he was with those swords...all of that.

Also left me wanting more Kenji. He...didn't really add anything to the route other than comic relief and padding, but he was as ridiculously entertaining as always, and we got some pretty tantalizing glimpses of his backstory, too.

I think it's pretty cool how we've gotten two very different but highly inspirational messages in the two routes so far. Also cool that Hisao takes different paths with his life, although I guess they're both kinda open-ended and not really mutually exclusive.

I do still kinda want to learn sign. Currently engaged in pestering my ASL'ing friends for ideas.

For a route where Hisao decides to teach at Yamaku, I feel like there was not nearly enough Mutou. :\

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Tom Bombadil
01/19/12 1:10:00 AM
#54:


HANAKO IS FOR CUDDLES I am glad you understand.

That notice seems...ominous, somehow, but I'm that much more hype

It bugs me a bit that we don't know about Misha exactly, but after Hisao spends the entire game ducking the question of his own issues as thoroughly as possible, I suppose it would make sense to not necessarily get Misha's deal. I don't think Hisao ever went into detail with Shizune, even.

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Tom Bombadil
01/20/12 6:20:00 AM
#55:


What time is it?

IT'S RIN TIME <3

Gonna reload from the Lilly/Rin scene, as I am guessing that is a split.

Nope, don't wanna talk about it.

Come to think of it, that doesn't make tons of sense for a Rin choice.....uhoh.

No napkins. No glasses. Whiskey only.

Kenji with dat genre savvy

I was a fooooooooooool

maybe Emi's choice then

but now it's time for work

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Kenri
01/20/12 3:56:00 PM
#56:


Rin's route is sorta hard to get if you don't know how already. ...I think the best way to describe how to get it would be "don't piss people off, but don't make them like you either" and then you'll just sort of fall into a choice that is very obviously RIN/NOT RIN.

It bugs me that Hisao and Shizune aren't really sticking together after school.

It's up for interpretation, but I think it was heavily implied that they're going to stay together (romantically). It's just that they can't stay together (geographically) because IIRC they don't live anywhere near each other. But Hisao clearly wants to be with Shizune, Misha told Hisao not to make Shizune sad or she'd be angry, and Shizune wasn't acting like they were breaking up or anything either. I really think the "we will meet again" stuff was more referring to Misha than Shizune and Hisao.

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Tom Bombadil
01/21/12 8:43:00 AM
#57:


That makes sense actually, but I was looking more at the "I'll keep chasing Shizune" line, as it seems more of a "I wanna date her again" kinda outlook.

Hmm, run a medium with everybody? I can try that I suppose. Not entirely sure how I'll go about that with choices like Shizune v. Lilly, but let me flounder for a bit before you jump in. >_>

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Phase
01/21/12 10:38:00 AM
#58:


For all the Lilly/Shizune choices there should be a choice which more or less retains neutrality which should always be open regardless of your choices before. (if you skip the decision point altogether you made the neutral decision)

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Tom Bombadil
01/21/12 11:52:00 AM
#59:


There are multiple ones? I think I've only seen the one with "Lay off Lilly (or was it both Lilly and me)" and "Hey I did my work."

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WazzupGenius00
01/21/12 1:15:00 PM
#60:


either one should be fine for that as long as you haven't especially helped either beforehand. Eating on the roof with Emi and Rin instead of in the Student Council room with Shizune and Misha is mandatory I think, but otherwise just don't get yourself on any other paths and you should get the obvious Rin path choice

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Tom Bombadil
01/22/12 6:21:00 AM
#61:


Hm, okay, let's try from the start. Hm, I think I have pissed off Student Council, but I DID get another Rin scene I haven't seen before. So very much looking forward to this route.

We are GOING FOR IT on the track this time.

Haven't taken this choice yet. Think I might've in the demo.

Emi is kinda way too cute. And yay, more nurse.

Rin's theory on bad luck makes so much sense >_>

Yup, I do seem to have stumbled on a Rin/Emi path :D

but now I have to skedaddle

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WazzupGenius00
01/22/12 6:28:00 AM
#62:


going for it is Emi's path choice, start over if you want Rin

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kurtfisto
01/22/12 7:30:00 AM
#63:


^Yup. To get Rin you have to sidestep EVERYONE and then tell her about your condition.

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Tom Bombadil
01/22/12 9:50:00 AM
#64:


FRIGGIN'

y'know I might just stick to the Emi path actually. My plan was to do Rin > Emi > Lilly because I was planning on needing something to keep me going after Shizune, but I...don't really. While I have RINHYPE, I am also kinda interested in being drowned in perkiness, and also don't really feel right now like going through act 1 AGAIN. >_> Will think about it.

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Biolizard28
01/22/12 9:54:00 AM
#65:


Rin > Lilly is a one two punch of feelings.

Truly unique in its effectiveness.

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Tom Bombadil
01/22/12 9:55:00 AM
#66:


you are pretty much the reason I am saving Lilly for last instead of Rin so I will trust you on that as well

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Tom Bombadil
01/22/12 12:17:00 PM
#67:


screw it we are FORGING AHEAD

I should say first:
-Rin's theme is awesome. I tend to automatically like anything piano-heavy. It's like I've played piano all my life or something.
-we should PROOOBABLY be more concerned than we are about Rin being found in the fetal position at night in front of the dorm :\

I indeed do not want "making Emi pout" on my conscience D:

at least there will be SOME Rin this route I suppose :D

"I guess it'll do." Rin feels the same way as I frequently do with my compositions. >_>

Rin's sprite just suddenly really reminded me of Disgaea's artwork. o_o Wonder if the rest will now that I've noticed it. Emi doesn't really.

dawww the act 2 transition is just as cute as the other ones

This DOES make me kinda want to start running but I have exercise-induced asthma that seems to only trigger when I run. I wonder if I can build up endurance to that like Hisao is presumably gonna do with heart thingy? Way too friggin' cold to run right now even if I could, though. I'll stick to my diet and maybe think about adding that later.

Did not know that about putting my hands behind my head to catch my breath.

Man, predictable unpredictability. Rin needs to start cosplaying and grow arms so she can be MORE of a girlfriendbolo expy.

MUSIC STORES THAT SELL WEIRD SOUNDING STUFF? EXCELLENT.

yes I do plan on spending most of the Emi route fanboying over Rin thank you for asking

Nurse top tier. Kiiiinda enjoying his and Emi's relationship, and yay unexpected backstory.

y helo thar emi's mom

so hey how 'bout that Meiko route

Dad died in the car crash didn't he :\ I was actually going to guess that before I found out!

"Emi at her Emiest" makes perfect sense to me. >_>

d'awwwwww

She's gonna blow herself out though, isn't she?

Nurse is pretty awesome.

aww, budding romance~

Alright, 4chan. This is where you get an opportunity to get big points over Umineko on my internal top VN list. Give me. A pirate Emi. Sprite.

misha still top tier

apart from the trying to seduce close friends' boyfriends thing I guess

thank you kenji for trying to prevent my death from running around on the roof

wait, if Kenji was going to murder somebody, he'd do it by......oh dear

...Iwanako letter ALREADY?

blah blah oh we didn't finish it this time

oh man we wanna go into town I WONDER IF WE'RE GOING TO THE SHANG-oh we're not. :\ Come to think of it, I am not sure why I expected to have a picnic at a teahouse. >_>

bahaha we wound up at the Shanghai anyway. After a sufficiently hnnnnggggg picnic CG

alrighty enough of this for now I think

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Tom Bombadil
01/22/12 7:05:00 PM
#68:


The main topic purged and I'm sad. :\ There was a bunch of spoiler-tagged stuff I wanted to eventually read! I gotta stop always being the last guy to finish stuff out of the initial clump of people to start.

OTHER GUY, EH? >_O

I'm telling you, game. Give me a Pirate Emi graphic of some sort and it's an easy win over the seacats.

Hm, first decision point of the route proper. I have been warned against white-knighting in this route, but....I don't thiiiiiink this would cause problems. Maybe. I think the worst-case is she turns me down and it's a bit awkward, so I am going to offer to run with her.

That was uneventful. Or maybe I gained/lost affection or something. Probably lost. I'm gonna get killed by a false choice fifty times now before I figure out I need to reload from earlier, and Taiga's not gonna be there to reduce that number to like three :\

again with the pirates

at least give me ninja Rin or something

awww, we scared off Hanako. I DIDN'T MEAN IT I AM SORRY D:

bahaha trollilly

"never seen somebody so disheveled look so attractive" man disheveled girls are the best :\

this is the best pillow fight scene

Yes, Hisao. The nurse will be completely fooled by your clever guise of asking about Emi's availability as a friend.

I can completely understand wanting to be there for the girl and make it all better. Constantly spazzing out about it is not going to help. Hisao needs to settle down and let Emi set the pace for letting him into whatever's going on.

Oh hey, he figured that out himself. Good job bro.

...but he doesn't care >_<

I am so very glad we get more Nurse this route. He's pretty great. I think I've said that every Nurse scene this route.

The Nurse is declaring it with certainty! Lambdanurse.

Can we not make Rin sick D:

"What did she and Rin do that gave her that cold?" *beat* *goes exactly the same way I did with it* >_>

...kinda an odd choice of music again, but a darned cute scene. Ah, the music got more appropriate as I typed. First couple chords kinda sounded more like a death scene.

YESSSSS can we please start the science club with Mutou

"I make a mental note to look into it more." What, doing science in college? What exactly is there to look into with such a vague start?

while I like tiny girls, I do wish they could've done Emi a BIT less loli. As cute as all of this is, I kinda feel like some kinda horrible person.

THIS is where I am going to lay off and let things happen. I know from experience that pressing a girl when she's not ready to let you help with stuff rarely tends to actually help. Although, maybe I should've pressed it for now and let it go later. Nah. Despite my buyer's remorse, I am sticking to my choice.

I think I might cosplay Nurse at some point. ACen's coming up and I want to have something besides the Hideyoshi I brought last year. <_< yes I am one of those people who cosplays and goes to cons what of it huh

It's weird. I compared Shizune to my ex once or twice, but the whole "wanting to help but not getting to" kinda theme of the Emi route so far reminds me of the relationship with that ex. Personality's way off, though. It's PROBABLY a sign of good writing that so many of these characters I find so relatable in some fashion?

aw yeah Rin can kip-up which I suppose isn't surprising but it DOES make me want somebody to get a Sweet Rin Music do you see what I did there

XD "Hisao, I think I'm ready to go all the w-" "Talk to the nurse, Emi."

Emi sure cusses a lot compared to the rest of this game

oh I have to see a guy online about a thing

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Tom Bombadil
01/23/12 10:27:00 PM
#69:


might miss a day or two because TEW buffer

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FFDragon
01/23/12 10:31:00 PM
#70:


emi is the oldest girl lolololo

Rin the best though.

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FFDragon
01/23/12 10:34:00 PM
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Also external image

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Tom Bombadil
01/23/12 10:42:00 PM
#72:


She's the oldest? Interesting. Like, I know she IS high school age, it just throws me for some of the CG's because she doesn't really look it at all. >_>

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FFDragon
01/23/12 10:46:00 PM
#73:


external image

bessssssssst

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Kenri
01/23/12 11:00:00 PM
#74:


Emi sure cusses a lot compared to the rest of this game

It's more Emi's path's writer than Emi herself. I think Hisao swears more in her route too. <_<


It's PROBABLY a sign of good writing that so many of these characters I find so relatable in some fashion?

Well, there is that promotional image for the game saying that the characters resonate with you because "you know them and are them". Kind of a bold statement, but I believe it.

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Tom Bombadil
01/23/12 11:16:00 PM
#75:


It's kinda true. They all start out as your standard VN archetypes, but so far they have all developed into really interesting and believable characters.

friggin' how is this game so good

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Tom Bombadil
01/24/12 10:50:00 PM
#76:


man I certainly did quit in the middle of a conversation what are we even talking about

I am enjoying SCIENCE CLUB. A lot. Mutou top tier.

I...am really curious about Yuuko's boyfriend now. o_O Still want a route, albeit not as much as I want AKIRA ROUTE. And Misha.

Oh I will help you into bed just fine, I'm sure. Then again I think I've called H-scenes wrong before.

"you are heavy must be all that running" man hisao you are so smooth are you going to invite Lilly to a movie next you can point to show her where it is

So...Emi knows about Misha, eh? That's...interesting.

Whatever is about to happen, I don't think I can take seriously after such an emphatic derpface CG.

...this music again? Sure.

XFD RIN SO VERY TOP TIER

man hisao are you some kind of machine

"and then it is heavily implied they had actual sex" what a great H-scene

hey yeah we didn't even have the requisite "AW CRAP YOU HAVE ARRHYTHMIA YOU GON DIE naw just kiddin' go on and get freaky" moment in that H-scene. It's like I have some sort of tolerance on this rou-waaaaaait, I see what they did there

OH GOD THE TROLLFACE SHE IS GOING TO KILL MY FAMILY SEVERAL TIMES OVER FFFFFFFF

I am...honestly kinda legitimately scared by that face. I imagine it is PROBABLY some sort of tricking me into a sexy situation kinda thing or something but....after playing Umineko, I can't NOT have a reaction of mild panic when somebody previously thought cool suddenly gets a face like that with no warning. Add in the occasional evocation of my past relationship and this route has gone from "d'awwww" to "mildly terrifying" in about two lines, even though the LOGICAL part of my brain is fairly aware that nothing nearly so sinister is going to occur.

Hm, she's sending me to the track shed. Is it a closed room? Nobody's around, she could just as easily off me here.

Five gets you ten we just locked ourselves in the friggin' shed nice going

....y anyway.

CAN YOU NOT MAKE THAT FACE WHILE NAKED CHRIST WOMAN I WILL NEVER BE AROUSED AGAIN

PFFFFFTHAHAHAHA THIS CG

my source tells me that this was probably drawn by a 16-year-old and my mood quickly changes from amusement to concern for the future of this planet when we make our kids draw cripple smut

that said I DID snicker when Emi made the O_O face

Also WHY IS TO BECOME ONE USED FOR H SCENES EVER AT ALL

it's music for like

tea party corner with Lilly

not doin' it

"the expression is almost comical" and I am almost a nerd

Like Shizune's second scene, I'm kinda glad they aren't just mary sues in bed. It'd be annoying if everything just went perfectly forever. I DEMAND REALISM IN MY CRIPPLESEX GAMES.

Now see.

The little "white flash" effect is a nice visual cue for...stuff.

But when you immediately turn around and use it for Kenji flashing a light in my eyes

well

yeah

For a moment there I thought we were about to get ANOTHER H scene and I was gonna be kinda annoyed.

I do very much enjoy Yuuko. She's all cute an' stuff. I'd ask for a route but I don't reeeeally wanna read about awkwardly going in her back door.

oh hey we are back to this being me and my ex

I ALWAYS have a spare minute for awesome teacher

I get the distinct sense that a bad end is coming.

Has Hisao not yet figured out that dad died in the wreck? C'mon, dude.

no dude you are just taking this the wrong way she is not ready to spill her entire guts and ugh

we will always listen to advice from badass grownups yes

oh character limit

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Kenri
01/24/12 11:02:00 PM
#77:


Like Shizune's second scene, I'm kinda glad they aren't just mary sues in bed. It'd be annoying if everything just went perfectly forever. I DEMAND REALISM IN MY CRIPPLESEX GAMES.

Agreed, and this is one of the reasons I absolutely hate a couple of the game's other sex scenes. Overall I think they managed to make them... at least tolerable, though.


Has Hisao not yet figured out that dad died in the wreck? C'mon, dude.

I will neither confirm nor deny that, but I will say that Hisao is kinda dense in general and that he's at his densest in Emi's route.

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FFDragon
01/24/12 11:03:00 PM
#78:


hisao at his hisaoest

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01/24/12 11:04:00 PM
#79:


Tom Bombadil posted...
XFD RIN SO VERY TOP TIER

CARRYING EVERYTHING SHE TOUCHES. WITH NO ARMS.

Somehow. Since she's (Naz)Rin.

</Touhou jokes so obscure Touhou fans haven't even heard of them>

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Tehmoosey1
01/24/12 11:33:00 PM
#80:


How the hell is it that Rin is so amazing that she manages to steal the spotlight during another character's route, during their sex scene?

"I saw a cloud." Too good.

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Tom Bombadil
01/24/12 11:41:00 PM
#81:


Seriously. The issues themselves are way different and there was no buttsecks involved, but at some point this transformed from the Emi route into the Exbolo route. It is freakin' me out. I have had these conversations. I have had these internal monologues. It is freakin' me right the heck out. It is also depressing to me that I had no Nurse or Mutou to dispense timely and sage advice.

I am playing up the Umineko thing a bit but I do honestly wish they would lay off the Emi evilface. It does unsettle me a bit.

Hisao you are pretty bad at this

Hm, this decision point is a bit tougher. I am keeping my friend's warning against white-knighting well in mind and refraining from shoving myself on her the instant there's an opportunity. I'm not convinced, though. At least talking to mom goes along with the whole quarks thing I guess.

She seems to agree it's a good idea so that's reassuring I suppose.

GUH.

oh hey I figured the Iwanako letter would come back

well there's a new act so I guess that's not a bad end maybe

maybe

Rin still top tier

I think this could be the part (or better, A part) where I screwed things up with Exbolo maybe. I DIDN'T think she could do it herself. I will...not go further on that subject in a public forum.

today is probably the anniversary of the thing with the stuff you chowderhead

it is time to take a quick break
it is time to go to bed
to find out which thing is true
refresh the topic?

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Tom Bombadil
01/24/12 11:47:00 PM
#82:


From: FFDragon | Posted: 1/25/2012 1:03:34 AM | #078
hisao at his hisaoest


Shirou at his Shirouest

From: Kenri | Posted: 1/25/2012 1:02:53 AM | #077
Agreed, and this is one of the reasons I absolutely hate a couple of the game's other sex scenes. Overall I think they managed to make them... at least tolerable, though.


Been good so far in that respect. Hanako's was too short to really offend in any fashion, I feel like, and Shizune had the whole table bit.

was trying to think of a good other touhou joke to make

got nothing, am sad

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WazzupGenius00
01/25/12 1:18:00 AM
#83:


it's almost baffling how stupid Hisao is in this route

one of the many reasons I think Emi's is the worst route

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Tom Bombadil
01/25/12 12:59:00 PM
#84:


OH CRAP PINK IS NOT HER FAVORITE COLOR BAIL BAIL BAIL

Oh crap, she couldn't go to the funeral. Thaaaat sucks.

I wish this H-scene was punctuated better

also what was the significance of the socks

I guess that's that then!

THIS TIME

THIS TIME RIN

I WILL HAVE YOU

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Tom Bombadil
01/26/12 1:47:00 PM
#85:


probably gonna break for a day or two for dat TEW

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