Board 8 > Nintendo officially releases its Zelda timeline

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FashnQueenEtna 12/21/11 7:03:00 AM #51:	No, in the center Time line he still exists because of Twilight Princess. Both WW and TP have stories about him breaking a seal that conflict with each other. -- Chrono1219 <cite>FashnQueenEtna posted [p:584711] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> No, in the center Time line he still exists because of Twilight Princess. Both WW and TP have stories about him breaking a seal that conflict with each other. -- Chrono1219 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UberPyro64 12/21/11 7:06:00 AM #52:	*JaKyL25 posted...* The canon time-travel sequence of OoT goes like this, right? Child Link Adult Link Child Link Adult Link In canon, he HAS to go back in time once, right? To complete the Spirit Temple. That would explain perfectly how 3 timelines split off of that game. The left path would be the future that continued to exist when Adult Link first "leaves" (to go back to being Child Link to complete the Spirit Temple) The center timeline is what happens after the end of the game when Ganon never rules. The right timeline is what happens to the timeline when Ganon ruled for 7 years and then was defeated. He also has to go back in time to get the Lens of Truth from the Well. -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! <cite>UberPyro64 posted [p:584712] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...The canon time-travel sequence of OoT goes like this, right?Child LinkAdult LinkChild LinkAdult LinkIn canon, he HAS to go back in time once, right? To complete the Spirit Temple.That would explain perfectly how 3 timelines split off of that game.The left path would be the future that continued to exist when Adult Link first "leaves" (to go back to being Child Link to complete the Spirit Temple)The center timeline is what happens after the end of the game when Ganon never rules.The right timeline is what happens to the timeline when Ganon ruled for 7 years and then was defeated.He also has to go back in time to get the Lens of Truth from the Well. -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 12/21/11 7:07:00 AM #53:	From: JaKyL25 \| #046 The canon time-travel sequence of OoT goes like this, right? Child Link Adult Link Child Link Adult Link In canon, he HAS to go back in time once, right? To complete the Spirit Temple. He does have to go back in time for that, but you're missing the one where he has to go back for Eye of Truth. (And while I'm pretty sure OoT can be beaten without the Eye of Truth, it's not practical to assume that actually happened.) -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:584713] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #046The canon time-travel sequence of OoT goes like this, right?Child LinkAdult LinkChild LinkAdult LinkIn canon, he HAS to go back in time once, right? To complete the Spirit Temple.He does have to go back in time for that, but you're missing the one where he has to go back for Eye of Truth. (And while I'm pretty sure OoT can be beaten without the Eye of Truth, it's not practical to assume that actually happened.) -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:07:00 AM #54:	Can't he do the Lens of Truth and the Child part of the Spirit Temple in one trip? I'd rather not create a 4th timeline. <_< -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584714] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Can't he do the Lens of Truth and the Child part of the Spirit Temple in one trip?I'd rather not create a 4th timeline. <_< -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UberPyro64 12/21/11 7:09:00 AM #55:	Well you see Zelda 2's towns are named after the sages from OoT. So I think the Fail is from the Final Battle with Ganon after he collected the sages. -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! <cite>UberPyro64 posted [p:584715] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Well you see Zelda 2's towns are named after the sages from OoT.So I think the Fail is from the Final Battle with Ganon after he collected the sages. -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UberPyro64 12/21/11 7:10:00 AM #56:	*JaKyL25 posted...* Can't he do the Lens of Truth and the Child part of the Spirit Temple in one trip? I'd rather not create a 4th timeline. <_< Needs to complete the Shadow Temple as an Adult. As well as the Greudo Fortress. -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! <cite>UberPyro64 posted [p:584716] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...Can't he do the Lens of Truth and the Child part of the Spirit Temple in one trip?I'd rather not create a 4th timeline. <_<Needs to complete the Shadow Temple as an Adult. As well as the Greudo Fortress. -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:10:00 AM #57:	I wonder if it confirmed that ALttP/Oracles/LA Link is all the same Link. If so, wow, 4 games with the same Link! Before this we never had more than 2 confirmed to be the same one. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584717] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I wonder if it confirmed that ALttP/Oracles/LA Link is all the same Link.If so, wow, 4 games with the same Link! Before this we never had more than 2 confirmed to be the same one. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 12/21/11 7:11:00 AM #58:	From: JaKyL25 \| #054 Can't he do the Lens of Truth and the Child part of the Spirit Temple in one trip? I'd rather not create a 4th timeline. <_< Not without glitches. You can't reach the Spirit Temple the first time without the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:584718] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #054Can't he do the Lens of Truth and the Child part of the Spirit Temple in one trip?I'd rather not create a 4th timeline. <_<Not without glitches. You can't reach the Spirit Temple the first time without the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:15:00 AM #59:	From: kevwaffles \| #058 Not without glitches. You can't reach the Spirit Temple the first time without the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple. Ugh, okay then, if THAT'S not how the left timeline exists then, I have no idea how it actually exists. Unless all the times Adult Link travels back to the past to change something before beating Ganon leave behind a functionally-the-same "Ganon is never defeated" timeline, and every single instance of this is resolved the same way, with the left branch ensuing. EDIT: This would essentially mean that there are at least 4 timelines, up to infinity for as many times as Adult Link travels back in time and then back to a new future, but every single one of them (except two) result in the left branch. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584719] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: kevwaffles \| #058Not without glitches. You can't reach the Spirit Temple the first time without the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple.Ugh, okay then, if THAT'S not how the left timeline exists then, I have no idea how it actually exists.Unless all the times Adult Link travels back to the past to change something before beating Ganon leave behind a functionally-the-same "Ganon is never defeated" timeline, and every single instance of this is resolved the same way, with the left branch ensuing.EDIT: This would essentially mean that there are at least 4 timelines, up to infinity for as many times as Adult Link travels back in time and then back to a new future, but every single one of them (except two) result in the left branch. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chronic1000 12/21/11 7:15:00 AM #60:	I think the explanation is that Link's time traveling adventures in Ocarina of Time created three different universes. Left Timeline = This timeline was created once Link went back in time after spending time in hibernation for seven years. Since Link altered history (assuming Link only went back in time once, and did part of the Spirit Temple/Bottom of the Well in one go,) the future he went back to wouldn't be this one, so Link simply disappeared. Ganon ruled 'his' land, but that eventually was sealed off as the Dark World, I believe. Center Timeline = This Timeline was created after Link defeated Ganon and was sent back in time for a final time. Link was able to prevent Ganon from taking over. Right Timeline: The Hyrule that remained after Link was sent back in time. Since Ganon eventually came back (and Link was nowhere to be found) he was able to rule, and this sets up Wind Waker Also, it's not very difficult to get the Hover Boots without The Lens of Truth, since you get the item so early in the Shadow Temple. So Link going back in time once is probable. It's not out of the realm of possibility Link tried the Shadow Temple first, realized he couldn't do much there (after getting the hover boots) went to the Spirit Temple, THEN realized he had to go back in time. -- In the not too distant future Next Sunday A.D. .... <cite>Chronic1000 posted [p:584720] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I think the explanation is that Link's time traveling adventures in Ocarina of Time created three different universes.Left Timeline = This timeline was created once Link went back in time after spending time in hibernation for seven years. Since Link altered history (assuming Link only went back in time once, and did part of the Spirit Temple/Bottom of the Well in one go,) the future he went back to wouldn't be this one, so Link simply disappeared. Ganon ruled 'his' land, but that eventually was sealed off as the Dark World, I believe.Center Timeline = This Timeline was created after Link defeated Ganon and was sent back in time for a final time. Link was able to prevent Ganon from taking over.Right Timeline: The Hyrule that remained after Link was sent back in time. Since Ganon eventually came back (and Link was nowhere to be found) he was able to rule, and this sets up Wind WakerAlso, it's not very difficult to get the Hover Boots without The Lens of Truth, since you get the item so early in the Shadow Temple. So Link going back in time once is probable. It's not out of the realm of possibility Link tried the Shadow Temple first, realized he couldn't do much there (after getting the hover boots) went to the Spirit Temple, THEN realized he had to go back in time. -- In the not too distant futureNext Sunday A.D. .... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UberPyro64 12/21/11 7:16:00 AM #61:	*JaKyL25 posted...* From: kevwaffles \| #058 Not without glitches. You can't reach the Spirit Temple the first time without the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple. Ugh, okay then, if THAT'S not how the left timeline exists then, I have no idea how it actually exists. Unless all the times Adult Link travels back to the past to change something before beating Ganon leave behind a functionally-the-same "Ganon is never defeated" timeline, and every single instance of this is resolved the same way, with the left branch ensuing. EDIT: This would essentially mean that there are at least 4 timelines, up to infinity for as many times as Adult Link travels back in time and then back to a new future, but every single one of them (except two) result in the left branch. "What if" theory. Link loses against Ganon in the Final battle after he gets the Sages. (Towns in Zelda 2 are named after them) -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! <cite>UberPyro64 posted [p:584721] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...From: kevwaffles \| #058Not without glitches. You can't reach the Spirit Temple the first time without the Hover Boots from the Shadow Temple.Ugh, okay then, if THAT'S not how the left timeline exists then, I have no idea how it actually exists.Unless all the times Adult Link travels back to the past to change something before beating Ganon leave behind a functionally-the-same "Ganon is never defeated" timeline, and every single instance of this is resolved the same way, with the left branch ensuing.EDIT: This would essentially mean that there are at least 4 timelines, up to infinity for as many times as Adult Link travels back in time and then back to a new future, but every single one of them (except two) result in the left branch."What if" theory. Link loses against Ganon in the Final battle after he gets the Sages.(Towns in Zelda 2 are named after them) -- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 12/21/11 7:19:00 AM #62:	From: Chronic1000 \| #060 Also, it's not very difficult to get the Hover Boots without The Lens of Truth, since you get the item so early in the Shadow Temple. If you know where to go, sure. But I'm assuming that Link doesn't have a FAQ or decided to randomly stumble into walls. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:584722] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: Chronic1000 \| #060Also, it's not very difficult to get the Hover Boots without The Lens of Truth, since you get the item so early in the Shadow Temple.If you know where to go, sure. But I'm assuming that Link doesn't have a FAQ or decided to randomly stumble into walls. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."-Toad, SMB3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhoopsyDaisy 12/21/11 7:20:00 AM #63:	I thought I read something about how WW was the first Zelda game, by one of the people who worked on the game, in Nintendo Power or something. -- senorhousemouse <cite>WhoopsyDaisy posted [p:584723] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I thought I read something about how WW was the first Zelda game, by one of the people who worked on the game, in Nintendo Power or something. -- senorhousemouse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 12/21/11 7:21:00 AM #64:	I'll accept this but I'll admit, I haven't played all of the Zeldas so I'm not up to date with timeline discussion now, what I want to know is how many times did Link get reincarnated like, which of those games listed had the same Link before he died for whatever reason and another Link was born -- http://www.orvilletadle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/MvC2.jpg <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:584724] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I'll accept thisbut I'll admit, I haven't played all of the Zeldas so I'm not up to date with timeline discussionnow, what I want to know is how many times did Link get reincarnated like, which of those games listed had the same Link before he died for whatever reason and another Link was born -- http://www.orvilletadle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/MvC2.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 12/21/11 7:21:00 AM #65:	*Chronic1000 posted...* I think the explanation is that Link's time traveling adventures in Ocarina of Time created three different universes. Left Timeline = This timeline was created once Link went back in time after spending time in hibernation for seven years. Since Link altered history (assuming Link only went back in time once, and did part of the Spirit Temple/Bottom of the Well in one go,) the future he went back to wouldn't be this one, so Link simply disappeared. Ganon ruled 'his' land, but that eventually was sealed off as the Dark World, I believe. Center Timeline = This Timeline was created after Link defeated Ganon and was sent back in time for a final time. Link was able to prevent Ganon from taking over. Right Timeline: The Hyrule that remained after Link was sent back in time. Since Ganon eventually came back (and Link was nowhere to be found) he was able to rule, and this sets up Wind Waker ding ding ding we have a winner <cite>colliding posted [p:584725] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Chronic1000 posted...I think the explanation is that Link's time traveling adventures in Ocarina of Time created three different universes.Left Timeline = This timeline was created once Link went back in time after spending time in hibernation for seven years. Since Link altered history (assuming Link only went back in time once, and did part of the Spirit Temple/Bottom of the Well in one go,) the future he went back to wouldn't be this one, so Link simply disappeared. Ganon ruled 'his' land, but that eventually was sealed off as the Dark World, I believe.Center Timeline = This Timeline was created after Link defeated Ganon and was sent back in time for a final time. Link was able to prevent Ganon from taking over.Right Timeline: The Hyrule that remained after Link was sent back in time. Since Ganon eventually came back (and Link was nowhere to be found) he was able to rule, and this sets up Wind Wakerding ding ding we have a winner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:21:00 AM #66:	Wind Waker being the first game would make absolutely no sense. It is very much intrinsically tied to the idea that OoT already happened. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584726] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Wind Waker being the first game would make absolutely no sense. It is very much intrinsically tied to the idea that OoT already happened. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 12/21/11 7:22:00 AM #67:	*WhoopsyDaisy posted...* I thought I read something about how WW was the first Zelda game, by one of the people who worked on the game, in Nintendo Power or something. My uncle is an executive at Nintendo and he said MM came first -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:584727] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> WhoopsyDaisy posted...I thought I read something about how WW was the first Zelda game, by one of the people who worked on the game, in Nintendo Power or something.My uncle is an executive at Nintendo and he said MM came first -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chronic1000 12/21/11 7:24:00 AM #68:	*kevwaffles posted...* From: Chronic1000 \| #060 Also, it's not very difficult to get the Hover Boots without The Lens of Truth, since you get the item so early in the Shadow Temple. If you know where to go, sure. But I'm assuming that Link doesn't have a FAQ or decided to randomly stumble into walls. Fair point, but aren't there signs/ghosts in the Shadow Temple that warn Link ahead of time that 'if he could see the truth,' that the true way would be revealed? I know they are in the Bottom of the Well, but that could clue Link off that things aren't as they seem to be. -- In the not too distant future Next Sunday A.D. .... <cite>Chronic1000 posted [p:584728] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> kevwaffles posted...From: Chronic1000 \| #060Also, it's not very difficult to get the Hover Boots without The Lens of Truth, since you get the item so early in the Shadow Temple.If you know where to go, sure. But I'm assuming that Link doesn't have a FAQ or decided to randomly stumble into walls.Fair point, but aren't there signs/ghosts in the Shadow Temple that warn Link ahead of time that 'if he could see the truth,' that the true way would be revealed? I know they are in the Bottom of the Well, but that could clue Link off that things aren't as they seem to be. -- In the not too distant futureNext Sunday A.D. .... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:25:00 AM #69:	From: Chronic1000 \| #060 Left Timeline = This timeline was created once Link went back in time after spending time in hibernation for seven years. Since Link altered history (assuming Link only went back in time once, and did part of the Spirit Temple/Bottom of the Well in one go,) the future he went back to wouldn't be this one, so Link simply disappeared. Ganon ruled 'his' land, but that eventually was sealed off as the Dark World, I believe. I think this is pretty much it, except I would say that it doesn't HAVE to be in one go. Every time he goes back and forth (except the final time when he defeats Ganon and then comes back to stay for good) leaves behind essentially the same left branch of the timeline. There are probably multiple "left branches" that all played out the exact same way, since I agree that it is a bit of a stretch to say that OoT Link only went back in time during his quest once. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584729] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: Chronic1000 \| #060Left Timeline = This timeline was created once Link went back in time after spending time in hibernation for seven years. Since Link altered history (assuming Link only went back in time once, and did part of the Spirit Temple/Bottom of the Well in one go,) the future he went back to wouldn't be this one, so Link simply disappeared. Ganon ruled 'his' land, but that eventually was sealed off as the Dark World, I believe.I think this is pretty much it, except I would say that it doesn't HAVE to be in one go. Every time he goes back and forth (except the final time when he defeats Ganon and then comes back to stay for good) leaves behind essentially the same left branch of the timeline.There are probably multiple "left branches" that all played out the exact same way, since I agree that it is a bit of a stretch to say that OoT Link only went back in time during his quest once. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 12/21/11 7:28:00 AM #70:	No, in the center Time line he still exists because of Twilight Princess. Both WW and TP have stories about him breaking a seal that conflict with each other. Could TP have been talking about Skyward Sword? -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:584730] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> No, in the center Time line he still exists because of Twilight Princess. Both WW and TP have stories about him breaking a seal that conflict with each other.Could TP have been talking about Skyward Sword? -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:36:00 AM #71:	Also this is probably a good example of why any fictional series that isn't inherently about time travel probably shouldn't ever mess about with the concept. It just turns your mythology into a mess for no good reason. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584731] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Also this is probably a good example of why any fictional series that isn't inherently about time travel probably shouldn't ever mess about with the concept. It just turns your mythology into a mess for no good reason. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 12/21/11 7:37:00 AM #72:	*JaKyL25 posted...* Also this is probably a good example of why any fictional series that isn't inherently about time travel probably shouldn't ever mess about with the concept. It just turns your mythology into a mess for no good reason. LOST did a good job with it! -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:584732] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...Also this is probably a good example of why any fictional series that isn't inherently about time travel probably shouldn't ever mess about with the concept. It just turns your mythology into a mess for no good reason.LOST did a good job with it! -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 12/21/11 7:39:00 AM #73:	Meh, I don't really see where the mess comes from. I think people are overthinking it-the left timeline isn't necessarily a consequence of time travel, just of choice. *EndOfDiscOne posted...* LOST did a good job with it! lol -- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:584733] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Meh, I don't really see where the mess comes from. I think people are overthinking it-the left timeline isn't necessarily a consequence of time travel, just of choice.EndOfDiscOne posted...LOST did a good job with it!lol -- Something something something^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:40:00 AM #74:	Well okay, if you stick hard and fast to single-timeline-theory like Lost, you can get away with it, you just have to be extremely careful. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584734] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Well okay, if you stick hard and fast to single-timeline-theory like Lost, you can get away with it, you just have to be extremely careful. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chronic1000 12/21/11 7:40:00 AM #75:	Now that I think about it, the Haunted Wasteland really doesn't require the hover boots, it just requires the Longshot. Like the Fire/Water Temples, you can beat the Shadow/Spirit Temples in either order without first entering the other. -- In the not too distant future Next Sunday A.D. .... <cite>Chronic1000 posted [p:584735] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Now that I think about it, the Haunted Wasteland really doesn't require the hover boots, it just requires the Longshot. Like the Fire/Water Temples, you can beat the Shadow/Spirit Temples in either order without first entering the other. -- In the not too distant futureNext Sunday A.D. .... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
beavis666x2 12/21/11 7:43:00 AM #76:	http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/The_FINAL_Zelda_Timeline -- Nanomachines: The cause of and solution to all of life's problems. http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5980/861756874pp6.jpg <cite>beavis666x2 posted [p:584736] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/The_FINAL_Zelda_Timeline -- Nanomachines: The cause of and solution to all of life's problems.http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5980/861756874pp6.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:45:00 AM #77:	From: Lightning Strikes \| #073 Meh, I don't really see where the mess comes from. I think people are overthinking it-the left timeline isn't necessarily a consequence of time travel, just of choice. I don't buy this at all. EVERY game in the series would have a fail/succeed "choice" split then. And we've already come up with a very easy way to make it a consequence of time travel. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584737] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: Lightning Strikes \| #073Meh, I don't really see where the mess comes from. I think people are overthinking it-the left timeline isn't necessarily a consequence of time travel, just of choice.I don't buy this at all. EVERY game in the series would have a fail/succeed "choice" split then.And we've already come up with a very easy way to make it a consequence of time travel. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 12/21/11 7:45:00 AM #78:	I was just about to ask "I haven't played TP yet, is that a new Link? or is it MM Link Grown up?" but I"ll just copy and paste my previous question From: BIGPUN9999 \| #064 now, what I want to know is how many times did Link get reincarnated like, which of those games listed had the same Link before he died for whatever reason and another Link was born -- http://wa4.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/johndmoney/ryu_color_palletized_copy.jpg <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:584738] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I was just about to ask "I haven't played TP yet, is that a new Link? or is it MM Link Grown up?"but I"ll just copy and paste my previous questionFrom: BIGPUN9999 \| #064now, what I want to know is how many times did Link get reincarnatedlike, which of those games listed had the same Link before he died for whatever reason and another Link was born -- http://wa4.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/johndmoney/ryu_color_palletized_copy.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 12/21/11 7:45:00 AM #79:	*JaKyL25 posted...* From: Lightning Strikes \| #073 Meh, I don't really see where the mess comes from. I think people are overthinking it-the left timeline isn't necessarily a consequence of time travel, just of choice. I don't buy this at all. EVERY game in the series would have a fail/succeed "choice" split then. Except in those cases, there aren't games taking place after that choice, hence no timeline. -- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:584739] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...From: Lightning Strikes \| #073Meh, I don't really see where the mess comes from. I think people are overthinking it-the left timeline isn't necessarily a consequence of time travel, just of choice.I don't buy this at all. EVERY game in the series would have a fail/succeed "choice" split then.Except in those cases, there aren't games taking place after that choice, hence no timeline. -- Something something something^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheKoolAidShoto 12/21/11 7:48:00 AM #80:	I never actually considered that any timeline could be caused by Link's failure. I guess over the year's video game logic has told me that the main character's failure is non-canon. -- It will launch for $350 with some Wii Sports s*. I bet my life on it. Damn, that KoolAid guy is awesome - NGamer64 <cite>TheKoolAidShoto posted [p:584740] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I never actually considered that any timeline could be caused by Link's failure. I guess over the year's video game logic has told me that the main character's failure is non-canon. -- It will launch for $350 with some Wii Sports s*. I bet my life on it. Damn, that KoolAid guy is awesome - NGamer64 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 12/21/11 7:49:00 AM #81:	*BIGPUN9999 posted...* I was just about to ask "I haven't played TP yet, is that a new Link? or is it MM Link Grown up?" but I"ll just copy and paste my previous question From: BIGPUN9999 \| #064 now, what I want to know is how many times did Link get reincarnated like, which of those games listed had the same Link before he died for whatever reason and another Link was born Okay, here's an estimate. Not necessarily 100% accurate, but it'll give you an idea. SS Link TMC/FS Link (could be two) OoT/MM Link ALttP/Oracles/LA Link LoZ/AoL Link TP Link FSA Link WW/PH Link ST Link Also, I won't spoil it, but TP resolves the story of OoT/MM Link. -- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:584741] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> BIGPUN9999 posted...I was just about to ask "I haven't played TP yet, is that a new Link? or is it MM Link Grown up?"but I"ll just copy and paste my previous questionFrom: BIGPUN9999 \| #064now, what I want to know is how many times did Link get reincarnatedlike, which of those games listed had the same Link before he died for whatever reason and another Link was bornOkay, here's an estimate. Not necessarily 100% accurate, but it'll give you an idea.SS LinkTMC/FS Link (could be two)OoT/MM LinkALttP/Oracles/LA LinkLoZ/AoL LinkTP LinkFSA LinkWW/PH LinkST LinkAlso, I won't spoil it, but TP resolves the story of OoT/MM Link. -- Something something something^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 7:51:00 AM #82:	From: Lightning Strikes \| #079 Except in those cases, there aren't games taking place after that choice, hence no timeline. This is not choose-your-own-adventure. It follows Occam's Razor to not have to involve User Choice in determining how the canon proceeds. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584742] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: Lightning Strikes \| #079Except in those cases, there aren't games taking place after that choice, hence no timeline.This is not choose-your-own-adventure. It follows Occam's Razor to not have to involve User Choice in determining how the canon proceeds. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 12/21/11 8:05:00 AM #83:	From: Lightning Strikes \| #081 Also, I won't spoil it, but TP resolves the story of OoT/MM Link. as I was reading your post, I thought "so TP Link is different? That means MM Link Never found what he was looking for" and then I read that portion of your post thats in the quote so I guess I'll just stop asking questions I know earlier I said I didn't have a problem with this timeline, but I kinda have a slight fanboyish issue, I always figured that the Grand Adventure of the first two games happened with the Definitive Version of Link, the OoT Link of course so I'm a little disappointed to see that it wasn't him but another one. But assuming its indeed happening in a timeline that Link left behind before destroying Ganon, it makes it more epic that this Grand Adventure takes place in a time where all hope seems lost just thinking outloud here -- http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5814/punnyandpalmerbuyit.jpg <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:584743] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: Lightning Strikes \| #081Also, I won't spoil it, but TP resolves the story of OoT/MM Link.as I was reading your post, I thought "so TP Link is different? That means MM Link Never found what he was looking for" and then I read that portion of your post thats in the quoteso I guess I'll just stop asking questionsI know earlier I said I didn't have a problem with this timeline, but I kinda have a slight fanboyish issue, I always figured that the Grand Adventure of the first two games happened with the Definitive Version of Link, the OoT Link of course so I'm a little disappointed to see that it wasn't him but another one. But assuming its indeed happening in a timeline that Link left behind before destroying Ganon, it makes it more epic that this Grand Adventure takes place in a time where all hope seems lostjust thinking outloud here -- http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5814/punnyandpalmerbuyit.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 12/21/11 8:25:00 AM #84:	*JaKyL25 posted...* From: Lightning Strikes \| #079 Except in those cases, there aren't games taking place after that choice, hence no timeline. This is not choose-your-own-adventure. It follows Occam's Razor to not have to involve User Choice in determining how the canon proceeds. Not exactly what I meant, but I'll clarify what I think the left timeline means. Okay, first, it seems that the reason the left timeline is separate is to resolve the discrepancies between ALttP's backstory, and OoT, which is supposed to show it. Now, we know that the left timeline is a world where Link failed. Now, let's look at what happens in ALttP's backstory. -Ganondorf becomes Ganon -The Knights of Hyrule sacrifice themselves to hold him to a standtill at the gate of the sacred realm -The 7 sages seal him away So this requires: Ganondorf transforming into Ganon No Link The 7 sages Ergo, the split must have occurred after you awaken the sages and Ganondorf transforms. Therefore, I think it's safe to assume that the left timeline is what happens if you lose the final battle. It represents a hypothetical bad ending to OoT, and occurs with Adult Link. -- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:584744] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> JaKyL25 posted...From: Lightning Strikes \| #079Except in those cases, there aren't games taking place after that choice, hence no timeline.This is not choose-your-own-adventure. It follows Occam's Razor to not have to involve User Choice in determining how the canon proceeds.Not exactly what I meant, but I'll clarify what I think the left timeline means.Okay, first, it seems that the reason the left timeline is separate is to resolve the discrepancies between ALttP's backstory, and OoT, which is supposed to show it. Now, we know that the left timeline is a world where Link failed.Now, let's look at what happens in ALttP's backstory.-Ganondorf becomes Ganon-The Knights of Hyrule sacrifice themselves to hold him to a standtill at the gate of the sacred realm-The 7 sages seal him awaySo this requires:Ganondorf transforming into GanonNo LinkThe 7 sagesErgo, the split must have occurred after you awaken the sages and Ganondorf transforms. Therefore, I think it's safe to assume that the left timeline is what happens if you lose the final battle. It represents a hypothetical bad ending to OoT, and occurs with Adult Link. -- Something something something^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadosneko 12/21/11 8:27:00 AM #85:	More left timeline games, imo. -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko <cite>shadosneko posted [p:584745] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> More left timeline games, imo. -- http://backloggery.com/shadoshttp://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 12/21/11 8:30:00 AM #86:	I absolutely refuse to believe that one of the timelines is a result of Link losing and dying against Ganon -- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1973/scottpilgrimingredients.png <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:584746] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I absolutely refuse to believe that one of the timelines is a result of Link losing and dying against Ganon -- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1973/scottpilgrimingredients.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadosneko 12/21/11 8:31:00 AM #87:	Left>Center>Right timelines -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko <cite>shadosneko posted [p:584747] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Left>Center>Right timelines -- http://backloggery.com/shadoshttp://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Regaro_ 12/21/11 8:38:00 AM #88:	Having never played it, I'm surprised to hear Skyward Sword is the first game <_<. Figured that would be a TP Sequel. Anyways, I took the five minutes to make this for you guys just 'cuz. Looks kinda ugly since I had to add the -s because lol whitespace preservation -------------------------LttP -> OoA/OoS -> LA -> LoZ -> LoZ II -------------------------^ -------------------------\| SS -> MC -> FS -> OoT -> MM -> TP -> FSA -------------------------\| -------------------------V -------------------------WW -> PH -> ST -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png 3DS: 3609-1203-5974 <cite>_Regaro_ posted [p:584748] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Having never played it, I'm surprised to hear Skyward Sword is the first game <_<. Figured that would be a TP Sequel.Anyways, I took the five minutes to make this for you guys just 'cuz. Looks kinda ugly since I had to add the -s because lol whitespace preservation-------------------------LttP -> OoA/OoS -> LA -> LoZ -> LoZ II-------------------------^-------------------------\| SS -> MC -> FS -> OoT -> MM -> TP -> FSA-------------------------\|-------------------------V-------------------------WW -> PH -> ST -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png3DS: 3609-1203-5974 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 12/21/11 8:47:00 AM #89:	Having never played it, I'm surprised to hear Skyward Sword is the first game They've only been saying it for a couple years now! -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:584749] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Having never played it, I'm surprised to hear Skyward Sword is the first game They've only been saying it for a couple years now! -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Regaro_ 12/21/11 8:50:00 AM #90:	I've avoided as much SS-related stuff as possible until I get around to it <_< which at this rate might not be for a long while. -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png Didn't just lose to a nice guy. I lost to SuperNiceDog in the guru. <cite>_Regaro_ posted [p:584750] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I've avoided as much SS-related stuff as possible until I get around to it <_<which at this rate might not be for a long while. -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.pngDidn't just lose to a nice guy. I lost to SuperNiceDog in the guru. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sakurafanboy 12/21/11 8:52:00 AM #91:	wait. OoT only split it into two, I thought? Adult and Kid timelines. where the ** did the 3rd come from? -- Team Gracidea - We live to love!** Proud fan of all that is Shaymin! <cite>Sakurafanboy posted [p:584751] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> wait. OoT only split it into two, I thought? Adult and Kid timelines. where the **** did the 3rd come from? -- Team Gracidea - We live to love!Proud fan of all that is Shaymin! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 12/21/11 8:56:00 AM #92:	Top tier trolling by Nintendo. Confirm that two timelines exist, then later be like "only a lie by omission". Suck it Zelda fanbase! This makes more sense tbqh. -- ##Alec Congrats to Guru champ SuperNiceDog! All hail our Guru overlord. <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:584752] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Top tier trolling by Nintendo. Confirm that two timelines exist, then later be like "only a lie by omission". Suck it Zelda fanbase!This makes more sense tbqh. -- ##AlecCongrats to Guru champ SuperNiceDog! All hail our Guru overlord. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 12/21/11 8:59:00 AM #93:	From: JaKyL25 \| #093 I'm amused that they call it "The Legend of Zelda II" btw, when nowhere in the official title does "The Legend of" appear. Know the names of your own games Nintendo! Did they call it that? I thought the image we had was the Kotaku translation. -- Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) for CB2012 Congrats to Guru champ SuperNiceDog! All hail our Guru overlord. <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:584753] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #093I'm amused that they call it "The Legend of Zelda II" btw, when nowhere in the official title does "The Legend of" appear.Know the names of your own games Nintendo!Did they call it that? I thought the image we had was the Kotaku translation. -- Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) for CB2012Congrats to Guru champ SuperNiceDog! All hail our Guru overlord. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 9:00:00 AM #94:	I'm amused that they call it "The Legend of Zelda II" btw, when nowhere in the official title does "The Legend of" appear. Know the names of your own games Nintendo! EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot that the timeline image itself isn't from the book but a translation someone else put together. My bad! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584754] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> I'm amused that they call it "The Legend of Zelda II" btw, when nowhere in the official title does "The Legend of" appear.Know the names of your own games Nintendo!EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot that the timeline image itself isn't from the book but a translation someone else put together. My bad! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 12/21/11 9:00:00 AM #95:	That image was made by Kotaku, not Nintendo. Blame Luke Plunkett or whoever made it. -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8840/crashsig.jpg <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:584755] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> That image was made by Kotaku, not Nintendo. Blame Luke Plunkett or whoever made it. -- http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8840/crashsig.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 9:00:00 AM #96:	Yeah whoopsie, I was thinking the image was straight from Nintendo when it is in fact not. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584756] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Yeah whoopsie, I was thinking the image was straight from Nintendo when it is in fact not. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 9:02:00 AM #97:	And that translation makes sense since Wikipedia says that it really IS called "The Legend of Zelda 2" in Japan. Crazy! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584757] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> And that translation makes sense since Wikipedia says that it really IS called "The Legend of Zelda 2" in Japan.Crazy! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 9:05:00 AM #98:	So what's the official Ganon character arc on the left branch? Sealed away by sages Killed by ALttP Link Re-incarnated in the Oracle games (but isn't he immediately re-killed there?) Goes on to create LoZ1 havoc until that Link kills him again And then AoL is about his minions trying to re-incarnate him again Is that right? And does he not die at the end of the Oracle games, or is there an as-yet unseen OTHER reincarnation between them and LoZ? -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584758] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> So what's the official Ganon character arc on the left branch?Sealed away by sagesKilled by ALttP LinkRe-incarnated in the Oracle games (but isn't he immediately re-killed there?)Goes on to create LoZ1 havoc until that Link kills him againAnd then AoL is about his minions trying to re-incarnate him againIs that right? And does he not die at the end of the Oracle games, or is there an as-yet unseen OTHER reincarnation between them and LoZ? -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Regaro_ 12/21/11 9:15:00 AM #99:	From: JaKyL25 \| #098 (but isn't he immediately re-killed there?) As far as I can recall yeah <_< or is there an as-yet unseen OTHER reincarnation between them and LoZ? I just kind of assumed this -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png Didn't just lose to a nice guy. I lost to SuperNiceDog in the guru. <cite>_Regaro_ posted [p:584759] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #098(but isn't he immediately re-killed there?)As far as I can recall yeah <_<or is there an as-yet unseen OTHER reincarnation between them and LoZ?I just kind of assumed this -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.pngDidn't just lose to a nice guy. I lost to SuperNiceDog in the guru. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/21/11 9:21:00 AM #100:	Well there's a quick and easy spot for the next Zelda game then. Some unfinished business in that branch! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:584760] in Nintendo o... [t:61420264]...</cite> <quote> Well there's a quick and easy spot for the next Zelda game then. Some unfinished business in that branch! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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