Board 8 > Does anyone actually know anyone who seriously celebrates Kwanzaa?

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SmartMuffin 12/07/11 8:10:00 PM #1:	I'm not convinced anyone actually does. I know that it was literally made up in the sense that it was recently created (all holidays were "made up" to a certain extent at one point or another), but I think it's also made up in the sense that the public is led to believe it is actually a relevant and popular celebration when that isn't even remotely the case. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:525411] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> I'm not convinced anyone actually does.I know that it was literally made up in the sense that it was recently created (all holidays were "made up" to a certain extent at one point or another), but I think it's also made up in the sense that the public is led to believe it is actually a relevant and popular celebration when that isn't even remotely the case. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skull_bonek23 12/07/11 8:10:00 PM #2:	My family does -- skull <cite>skull_bonek23 posted [p:525412] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> My family does -- skull </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOceIot 12/07/11 8:11:00 PM #3:	Nope. I don't even know what it is to be honest. -- you just can't live in that negative way...make way for the positive day <cite>TheOceIot posted [p:525413] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Nope. I don't even know what it is to be honest. -- you just can't live in that negative way...make way for the positive day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrsFrisby 12/07/11 8:11:00 PM #4:	Started to say I did, then noticed you said "seriously." So no. -- *Essy*, Avian Enthusiast <cite>MrsFrisby posted [p:525414] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Started to say I did, then noticed you said "seriously."So no. -- Essy, Avian Enthusiast </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/07/11 8:12:00 PM #5:	No, but I have to believe somebody does, because card companies make cards for the holiday! Unless their entire market is hipsters buying those cards for their friends ironically. Which it could very well be! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:525415] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> No, but I have to believe somebody does, because card companies make cards for the holiday!Unless their entire market is hipsters buying those cards for their friends ironically. Which it could very well be! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 12/07/11 8:12:00 PM #6:	From: JaKyL25 \| #005 No, but I have to believe somebody does, because card companies make cards for the holiday! Unless their entire market is hipsters buying those cards for their friends ironically. Which it could very well be! Jakyl always knows how to appeal to the free market to cause me to rethink my positions :( -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:525416] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #005No, but I have to believe somebody does, because card companies make cards for the holiday!Unless their entire market is hipsters buying those cards for their friends ironically. Which it could very well be!Jakyl always knows how to appeal to the free market to cause me to rethink my positions :( -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 12/07/11 8:12:00 PM #7:	Every black person I know -- _foolmo_ 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance' - ertyu quoting Tidus <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:525417] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Every black person I know -- _foolmo_'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance' - ertyu quoting Tidus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/07/11 8:12:00 PM #8:	Poor Kwanzaa Bot -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:525418] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Poor Kwanzaa Bot -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gifhttp://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BFairfield 12/07/11 8:13:00 PM #9:	I don't even know what a Kwanzaa is. -- Sig <cite>BFairfield posted [p:525419] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> I don't even know what a Kwanzaa is. -- Sig </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 12/07/11 8:13:00 PM #10:	Perhaps the entire market is PC-obsessed white people buying them for black coworkers out of the assumption they celebrate it when they actually don't? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:525420] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Perhaps the entire market is PC-obsessed white people buying them for black coworkers out of the assumption they celebrate it when they actually don't? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 12/07/11 8:13:00 PM #11:	Hakuna Makwanzaa -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/59xiiipngpy.png <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:525421] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Hakuna Makwanzaa -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/59xiiipngpy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/07/11 8:14:00 PM #12:	From: SmartMuffin \| #010 Perhaps the entire market is PC-obsessed white people buying them for black coworkers out of the assumption they celebrate it when they actually don't? I'm pretty sure you just independently came up with a solid plot for a Season Two episode of The Office. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:525422] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: SmartMuffin \| #010Perhaps the entire market is PC-obsessed white people buying them for black coworkers out of the assumption they celebrate it when they actually don't?I'm pretty sure you just independently came up with a solid plot for a Season Two episode of The Office. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mershaaay 12/07/11 8:14:00 PM #13:	I always send a Kwanzaa kard to the one black guy I know. It makes him happy, I think. -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness. The Resurrection <cite>Mershaaay posted [p:525423] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> I always send a Kwanzaa kard to the one black guy I know. It makes him happy, I think. -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness.The Resurrection </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 12/07/11 8:16:00 PM #14:	-- http://i.imgur.com/GrZNc.png <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:525424] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> -- http://i.imgur.com/GrZNc.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 12/07/11 8:17:00 PM #15:	From: JaKyL25 \| #012 I'm pretty sure you just independently came up with a solid plot for a Season Two episode of The Office. Do they have one of those where the one black person has to give a presentation on MLK Day every year? Because that totally happens in the offices I've worked in! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:525425] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: JaKyL25 \| #012I'm pretty sure you just independently came up with a solid plot for a Season Two episode of The Office.Do they have one of those where the one black person has to give a presentation on MLK Day every year? Because that totally happens in the offices I've worked in! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 12/07/11 8:18:00 PM #16:	Apparently it's the currency of Angola! Sounds like your kind of holiday! -- I had a nightmare where Ulti forced me to eat brain matter. ;_;-MegaWentEvil <cite>paperwarior posted [p:525426] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Apparently it's the currency of Angola! Sounds like your kind of holiday! -- I had a nightmare where Ulti forced me to eat brain matter. ;_;-MegaWentEvil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 12/07/11 8:19:00 PM #17:	The black family that I'm closest to, the parents are actually from Africa, where the holiday doesn't exist, so they don't observe it. None of the other black people I know do either. -- A hare like me couldn't catch up to Black Turtle. <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:525427] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> The black family that I'm closest to, the parents are actually from Africa, where the holiday doesn't exist, so they don't observe it. None of the other black people I know do either. -- A hare like me couldn't catch up to Black Turtle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RayDyn 12/07/11 8:23:00 PM #18:	From: LeonhartFour \| Posted: 12/7/2011 11:12:57 PM \| #008 Poor Kwanzaa Bot He's been giving those books out for 647 years. -- ~=The most dangerous thing in the world is a bored Marine=~ http://img.imgcake.com/SgtSphynx/soldieroffortunecoverjpgen.jpg <cite>RayDyn posted [p:525428] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| Posted: 12/7/2011 11:12:57 PM \| #008Poor Kwanzaa BotHe's been giving those books out for 647 years. -- ~=The most dangerous thing in the world is a bored Marine=~http://img.imgcake.com/SgtSphynx/soldieroffortunecoverjpgen.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 12/07/11 8:29:00 PM #19:	From: RevolverSaro \| #019 True story, Kwanzaa was created by a man named black activist Ron Karenga in the 1960s. In the 1970s, he was arrested for raping and torturing a young woman. He's currently the head of the African American Studies department at my school, California State University Long Beach. That actually disgusts me a lot. He has his position because of his prestige Really, didn't know that one. I did know that the guy who created Earth Day murdered his girlfriend though! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:525429] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: RevolverSaro \| #019True story, Kwanzaa was created by a man named black activist Ron Karenga in the 1960s. In the 1970s, he was arrested for raping and torturing a young woman.He's currently the head of the African American Studies department at my school, California State University Long Beach. That actually disgusts me a lot. He has his position because of his prestigeReally, didn't know that one. I did know that the guy who created Earth Day murdered his girlfriend though! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RevolverSaro 12/07/11 8:29:00 PM #20:	True story, Kwanzaa was created by a black activist named Ron Karenga in the 1960s. In the 1970s, he was arrested for raping and torturing a young woman. He's currently the head of the African American Studies department at my school, California State University Long Beach. That actually disgusts me a lot. He has his position because of his prestige. Here is his picture: He's a big sack of **. -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant. "Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood <cite>RevolverSaro posted [p:525430] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> True story, Kwanzaa was created by a black activist named Ron Karenga in the 1960s. In the 1970s, he was arrested for raping and torturing a young woman.He's currently the head of the African American Studies department at my school, California State University Long Beach. That actually disgusts me a lot. He has his position because of his prestige.Here is his picture:He's a big sack of **. -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant."Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 12/07/11 8:30:00 PM #21:	It's always the ones who invent holidays... -- I had a nightmare where Ulti forced me to eat brain matter. ;_;-MegaWentEvil <cite>paperwarior posted [p:525431] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> It's always the ones who invent holidays... -- I had a nightmare where Ulti forced me to eat brain matter. ;_;-MegaWentEvil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RayDyn 12/07/11 8:30:00 PM #22:	Well, after some quick research, it is strictly an American holiday and estimates are that roughly 2 million people celebrate it. -- ~=B8's Resident Ninja-Pirate. Please insert liquor=~ http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/fanart/kenneth/bender_auron.jpg <cite>RayDyn posted [p:525432] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Well, after some quick research, it is strictly an American holiday and estimates are that roughly 2 million people celebrate it. -- ~=B8's Resident Ninja-Pirate. Please insert liquor=~http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/fanart/kenneth/bender_auron.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 12/07/11 8:34:00 PM #23:	a few black friends of mine have mentioned that they find the idea of a black people specific holiday offensive on it's face. I don't know anyone who celebrates it or cares that it exists. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:525433] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> a few black friends of mine have mentioned that they find the idea of a black people specific holiday offensive on it's face. I don't know anyone who celebrates it or cares that it exists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 12/07/11 8:36:00 PM #24:	No. -- You'll get what's coming to you Ulti, wait and see. - Takfloyd_mkII__ <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:525434] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> No. -- You'll get what's coming to you Ulti, wait and see. - Takfloyd_mkII__ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 12/07/11 8:37:00 PM #25:	From: RevolverSaro \| #019 True story, Kwanzaa was created by a black activist named Ron Karenga in the 1960s. In the 1970s, he was arrested for raping and torturing a young woman. He's currently the head of the African American Studies department at my school, California State University Long Beach. That actually disgusts me a lot. He has his position because of his prestige. Here is his picture: He's a big sack of **. So it's basically the Holiday version of Scientology? -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:525435] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: RevolverSaro \| #019True story, Kwanzaa was created by a black activist named Ron Karenga in the 1960s. In the 1970s, he was arrested for raping and torturing a young woman.He's currently the head of the African American Studies department at my school, California State University Long Beach. That actually disgusts me a lot. He has his position because of his prestige.Here is his picture:He's a big sack of **.So it's basically the Holiday version of Scientology? -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SlymDayspring 12/07/11 8:38:00 PM #26:	My parents knew some people who celebrated it when we lived in Atlanta (I was a small kid then so I can't really say I knew them) I don't think it is really popular with the new generation, kind of a product of the time it was created. -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png <cite>SlymDayspring posted [p:525436] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> My parents knew some people who celebrated it when we lived in Atlanta (I was a small kid then so I can't really say I knew them)I don't think it is really popular with the new generation, kind of a product of the time it was created. -- I'm "kind of a big deal".http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 12/07/11 8:40:00 PM #27:	*SlymDayspring posted...* My parents knew some people who celebrated it when we lived in Atlanta (I was a small kid then so I can't really say I knew them) I don't think it is really popular with the new generation, kind of a product of the time it was created. This is probably true. Admittedly I know little about Kwanza, but it feels to me like a Black Pride sort of holiday. None of the black people I know are particularly prideful (or shameful) about being black, so there's no reason to celebrate. -- http://i.imgur.com/GrZNc.png <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:525437] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> SlymDayspring posted...My parents knew some people who celebrated it when we lived in Atlanta (I was a small kid then so I can't really say I knew them)I don't think it is really popular with the new generation, kind of a product of the time it was created.This is probably true. Admittedly I know little about Kwanza, but it feels to me like a Black Pride sort of holiday. None of the black people I know are particularly prideful (or shameful) about being black, so there's no reason to celebrate. -- http://i.imgur.com/GrZNc.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 12/07/11 8:45:00 PM #28:	From: foolm0ron \| #007 Every black person I know Same here! So nobody. -- "nah, it's not my team if I drop pitchers for merely being horrible" -War13104 <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:525438] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: foolm0ron \| #007Every black person I knowSame here!So nobody. -- "nah, it's not my team if I drop pitchers for merely being horrible" -War13104 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 12/07/11 8:48:00 PM #29:	From: OmarsComin \| #023 a few black friends of mine have mentioned that they find the idea of a black people specific holiday offensive on it's face. I don't know anyone who celebrates it or cares that it exists. Right, this is kind of my point. Well, not really, but I still agree with it. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:525439] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #023a few black friends of mine have mentioned that they find the idea of a black people specific holiday offensive on it's face. I don't know anyone who celebrates it or cares that it exists.Right, this is kind of my point. Well, not really, but I still agree with it. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RevolverSaro 12/07/11 8:56:00 PM #30:	*MarvelousGerbil posted...* SlymDayspring posted... My parents knew some people who celebrated it when we lived in Atlanta (I was a small kid then so I can't really say I knew them) I don't think it is really popular with the new generation, kind of a product of the time it was created. This is probably true. Admittedly I know little about Kwanza, but it feels to me like a Black Pride sort of holiday. None of the black people I know are particularly prideful (or shameful) about being black, so there's no reason to celebrate. This is essentially all it is. -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant. "Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood <cite>RevolverSaro posted [p:525440] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> MarvelousGerbil posted...SlymDayspring posted...My parents knew some people who celebrated it when we lived in Atlanta (I was a small kid then so I can't really say I knew them)I don't think it is really popular with the new generation, kind of a product of the time it was created.This is probably true. Admittedly I know little about Kwanza, but it feels to me like a Black Pride sort of holiday. None of the black people I know are particularly prideful (or shameful) about being black, so there's no reason to celebrate.This is essentially all it is. -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant."Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Meow1000 12/07/11 9:23:00 PM #31:	Absolutely no one, and that includes everyone I really "know" online. -- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience. <cite>Meow1000 posted [p:525441] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Absolutely no one, and that includes everyone I really "know" online. -- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 12/07/11 9:43:00 PM #32:	and estimates are that roughly 2 million people celebrate it. I'd be curious to know what these estimates are based upon, because I have a tough time believing it's even this many. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:525442] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> and estimates are that roughly 2 million people celebrate it.I'd be curious to know what these estimates are based upon, because I have a tough time believing it's even this many. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChichiriMuyo 12/07/11 10:02:00 PM #33:	I've never known anyone who celebrated it... and I think the Boondocks comic strip commented on that fact very well (Huey was always commenting after the fact that he forgot to celebrate). While some in the black community embraced the idea, most of them didn't... and since it takes a community to sustain a holiday, even those who would be inclined to back it wouldn't have the support to do so. It'd probably actually do better if it was at a different time of year, too, since there's some other holiday people celebrate around that time that has less to do with heritage and more to do with consumerism (and, at this point, virtually nothing to do with religious views). -- "Principally I hate and detest the animal called man, although I heartily love John, Peter, Thomas and so forth" - Jonathan Swift BT with the victory! <cite>ChichiriMuyo posted [p:525443] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> I've never known anyone who celebrated it... and I think the Boondocks comic strip commented on that fact very well (Huey was always commenting after the fact that he forgot to celebrate). While some in the black community embraced the idea, most of them didn't... and since it takes a community to sustain a holiday, even those who would be inclined to back it wouldn't have the support to do so. It'd probably actually do better if it was at a different time of year, too, since there's some other holiday people celebrate around that time that has less to do with heritage and more to do with consumerism (and, at this point, virtually nothing to do with religious views). -- "Principally I hate and detest the animal called man, although I heartily love John, Peter, Thomas and so forth" - Jonathan SwiftBT with the victory! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuaiGaWarui 12/07/11 10:03:00 PM #34:	Kwanzaa was made up to start trouble. I grew up with black families and of course they all celebrated Christmas. <cite>GuaiGaWarui posted [p:525444] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> Kwanzaa was made up to start trouble. I grew up with black families and of course they all celebrated Christmas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChichiriMuyo 12/07/11 10:10:00 PM #35:	*SmartMuffin posted...* and estimates are that roughly 2 million people celebrate it. I'd be curious to know what these estimates are based upon, because I have a tough time believing it's even this many. The US has just a bit less than 40 million black people. Is it hard to believe that 6-7% of them celebrate Kwanza? is it hard to believe that around 2/3 of 1% of the entire population set aside time to celebrate their heritage? It's not hard for me, and I believe that such a small group represents a rather large disconnect from the mainstream. More republicans would vote for Ron Paul, and he is (sadly) considered too fringe to even be a relative frontrunner, let alone given a shot at running for the white house. Of course, you won't see this post because you're unwilling to hear a true libertarian point of view. So there goes that. -- "Principally I hate and detest the animal called man, although I heartily love John, Peter, Thomas and so forth" - Jonathan Swift BT with the victory! <cite>ChichiriMuyo posted [p:525445] in Does anyon... [t:61283445]...</cite> <quote> SmartMuffin posted...and estimates are that roughly 2 million people celebrate it.I'd be curious to know what these estimates are based upon, because I have a tough time believing it's even this many.The US has just a bit less than 40 million black people. Is it hard to believe that 6-7% of them celebrate Kwanza? is it hard to believe that around 2/3 of 1% of the entire population set aside time to celebrate their heritage? It's not hard for me, and I believe that such a small group represents a rather large disconnect from the mainstream. More republicans would vote for Ron Paul, and he is (sadly) considered too fringe to even be a relative frontrunner, let alone given a shot at running for the white house.Of course, you won't see this post because you're unwilling to hear a true libertarian point of view. So there goes that. -- "Principally I hate and detest the animal called man, although I heartily love John, Peter, Thomas and so forth" - Jonathan SwiftBT with the victory! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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