Board 8 > When Voldemort was at the final battle of Hogwarts spoilers

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Straw_Hax 10/29/11 7:19:00 PM #1:	Why didn't everyone just fire Avada-Kedavra spells at him. All the teachers, Order, students etc. I doubt he could block 100 of them being fired at him <cite>Straw_Hax posted [p:489161] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Why didn't everyone just fire Avada-Kedavra spells at him. All the teachers, Order, students etc. I doubt he could block 100 of them being fired at him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/29/11 7:23:00 PM #2:	because voldehax really -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:489162] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> because voldehaxreally -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YetAnothrShadow 10/29/11 7:24:00 PM #3:	Because he could die unless those things were destroyed or something? -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players. http://img.imgcake.com/1319527328883gifad.gif <cite>YetAnothrShadow posted [p:489163] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Because he could die unless those things were destroyed or something? -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players.http://img.imgcake.com/1319527328883gifad.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Natwaf_akidna 10/29/11 7:26:00 PM #4:	He'd just come back later on, thanks to his immortality, and his army will just avenge him. That's if even one of the blasts hits him. And more importantly, who the hell knows and can cast that spell there? -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! <cite>Natwaf_akidna posted [p:489164] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> He'd just come back later on, thanks to his immortality, and his army will just avenge him. That's if even one of the blasts hits him.And more importantly, who the hell knows and can cast that spell there? -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/29/11 7:28:00 PM #5:	also there was that whole business of You have to have total intent to kill to use the spell otherwise it wouldn't do anything. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:489165] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> also there was that whole business ofYou have to have total intent to kill to use the spell otherwise it wouldn't do anything. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Straw_Hax 10/29/11 7:28:00 PM #6:	Bad logic is bad. Voldemort wouldn't "die" but he his physical body would just like when his Avada rebounded on him before. Then the Order would have a lot of time to find the Horcruxes <cite>Straw_Hax posted [p:489166] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Bad logic is bad. Voldemort wouldn't "die" but he his physical body would just like when his Avada rebounded on him before. Then the Order would have a lot of time to find the Horcruxes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Straw_Hax 10/29/11 7:29:00 PM #7:	*Pirateking2000 posted...* also there was that whole business of You have to have total intent to kill to use the spell otherwise it wouldn't do anything. Are you implying nobody at the Battle of Hogwarts wanted to kill Voldemort? <cite>Straw_Hax posted [p:489167] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Pirateking2000 posted...also there was that whole business ofYou have to have total intent to kill to use the spell otherwise it wouldn't do anything.Are you implying nobody at the Battle of Hogwarts wanted to kill Voldemort? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takfloyd_mkII__ 10/29/11 7:32:00 PM #8:	Didn't the teachers actually try that in the books, and he fought them all off at the same time? That's one badass scene I was miffed they left out of the movie. -- Signature change in progress... Please wait. <cite>Takfloyd_mkII__ posted [p:489168] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Didn't the teachers actually try that in the books, and he fought them all off at the same time? That's one badass scene I was miffed they left out of the movie. -- Signature change in progress... Please wait. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Straw_Hax 10/29/11 7:34:00 PM #9:	*Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...* Didn't the teachers actually try that in the books, and he fought them all off at the same time? That's one badass scene I was miffed they left out of the movie. Voldemort was fighting only three at the same time (McConnogal, Slughorn and Kingsley) and it was pretty even until Voldemort got enraged by his best warrior (Bellatrix) dying. I'm talking why didn't 100 people just rush him at that moment? <cite>Straw_Hax posted [p:489169] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...Didn't the teachers actually try that in the books, and he fought them all off at the same time? That's one badass scene I was miffed they left out of the movie.Voldemort was fighting only three at the same time (McConnogal, Slughorn and Kingsley) and it was pretty even until Voldemort got enraged by his best warrior (Bellatrix) dying. I'm talking why didn't 100 people just rush him at that moment? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/29/11 7:35:00 PM #10:	Are you implying nobody at the Battle of Hogwarts wanted to kill Voldemort? just mentioning an aspect. By everyone I figured you included the students where some of them would be going 'What the ** is going on!?" but yeah as mentioned AKing him wouldn't do much until they dealt with his little horcruxes (sp?) or whatever (just delay him I guess). -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:489170] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Are you implying nobody at the Battle of Hogwarts wanted to kill Voldemort?just mentioning an aspect. By everyone I figured you included the students where some of them would be going 'What the is going on!?"but yeah as mentioned AKing him wouldn't do much until they dealt with his little horcruxes (sp?) or whatever (just delay him I guess). -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Natwaf_akidna 10/29/11 7:38:00 PM #11:	Because 100 people didn't know how to cast it properly. And killing him now, that he's shown that he can be reborn, will just steel his followers so they won't disperse before avenging him. -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! <cite>Natwaf_akidna posted [p:489171] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Because 100 people didn't know how to cast it properly.And killing him now, that he's shown that he can be reborn, will just steel his followers so they won't disperse before avenging him. -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 10/29/11 7:43:00 PM #12:	The Horcruxes wouldn't have mattered since by the time the actual final battle begins, they're all destroyed anyway. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:489172] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> The Horcruxes wouldn't have mattered since by the time the actual final battle begins, they're all destroyed anyway. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Natwaf_akidna 10/29/11 7:46:00 PM #13:	Oh, THAT part of the battle. Nevermind. -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! <cite>Natwaf_akidna posted [p:489173] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Oh, THAT part of the battle. Nevermind. -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand Kirby 10/29/11 7:48:00 PM #14:	From: Panthera \| #012 The Horcruxes wouldn't have mattered since by the time the actual final battle begins, they're all destroyed anyway. But only a few people knew that. You can't really blame most people for not rushing to take on the most evil wizard ever while they still think he's immortal. Even with the odds, they probably thought he was a lot more powerful than he actually was, and he still was very dangerous. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand Kirby posted [p:489174] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> From: Panthera \| #012The Horcruxes wouldn't have mattered since by the time the actual final battle begins, they're all destroyed anyway.But only a few people knew that. You can't really blame most people for not rushing to take on the most evil wizard ever while they still think he's immortal. Even with the odds, they probably thought he was a lot more powerful than he actually was, and he still was very dangerous. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? HsuThat you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 10/29/11 7:52:00 PM #15:	There were a bunch of death eaters who also needed fighting, not just Voldemort. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:489175] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> There were a bunch of death eaters who also needed fighting, not just Voldemort. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 10/29/11 7:54:00 PM #16:	From: Grand Kirby \| #014 But only a few people knew that. You can't really blame most people for not rushing to take on the most evil wizard ever while they still think he's immortal. Even with the odds, they probably thought he was a lot more powerful than he actually was, and he still was very dangerous. How many of them even knew he had the Horcruxes? As far as I can recall, outside Harry and co, only Slughorn knew, and even he didn't outright know so much as could reasonably suspect that if Dumbledore was pressuring Harry into finding out how Tom Riddle learned about them in the first, it was a good sign Voldemort had them. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:489176] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> From: Grand Kirby \| #014But only a few people knew that. You can't really blame most people for not rushing to take on the most evil wizard ever while they still think he's immortal. Even with the odds, they probably thought he was a lot more powerful than he actually was, and he still was very dangerous.How many of them even knew he had the Horcruxes? As far as I can recall, outside Harry and co, only Slughorn knew, and even he didn't outright know so much as could reasonably suspect that if Dumbledore was pressuring Harry into finding out how Tom Riddle learned about them in the first, it was a good sign Voldemort had them. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdmiralZephyr 10/29/11 7:54:00 PM #17:	*Straw_Hax posted...* Bad logic is bad. Voldemort wouldn't "die" but he his physical body would just like when his Avada rebounded on him before. Then the Order would have a lot of time to find the Horcruxes The only Horcrux remaining even at the beginning of the final battle was the snake, and that was destroyed by Neville like two seconds later. Plus the prophecy that only Harry could destroy Voldy. -- darkx [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] Currently playing: Portal 2, Ocarina of Time 3D <cite>AdmiralZephyr posted [p:489177] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Straw_Hax posted...Bad logic is bad. Voldemort wouldn't "die" but he his physical body would just like when his Avada rebounded on him before. Then the Order would have a lot of time to find the HorcruxesThe only Horcrux remaining even at the beginning of the final battle was the snake, and that was destroyed by Neville like two seconds later.Plus the prophecy that only Harry could destroy Voldy. -- darkx [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]Currently playing: Portal 2, Ocarina of Time 3D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
barreldragon88 10/29/11 7:55:00 PM #18:	*Straw_Hax posted...* Takfloyd_mkII__ posted... Didn't the teachers actually try that in the books, and he fought them all off at the same time? That's one badass scene I was miffed they left out of the movie. Voldemort was fighting only three at the same time (McConnogal, Slughorn and Kingsley) and it was pretty even until Voldemort got enraged by his best warrior (Bellatrix) dying. I'm talking why didn't 100 people just rush him at that moment? Why didn' this happen in the movie?? -- Long live Saint Seiya!! <cite>barreldragon88 posted [p:489178] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Straw_Hax posted...Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...Didn't the teachers actually try that in the books, and he fought them all off at the same time? That's one badass scene I was miffed they left out of the movie.Voldemort was fighting only three at the same time (McConnogal, Slughorn and Kingsley) and it was pretty even until Voldemort got enraged by his best warrior (Bellatrix) dying. I'm talking why didn't 100 people just rush him at that moment?Why didn' this happen in the movie?? -- Long live Saint Seiya!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdmiralZephyr 10/29/11 7:55:00 PM #19:	And Panthera brings up a good point. The only (living) people who even knew about the Horcruxes were Harry, Ron, Hermione, Voldy and Slughorn. -- darkx [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] Currently playing: Portal 2, Ocarina of Time 3D <cite>AdmiralZephyr posted [p:489179] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> And Panthera brings up a good point. The only (living) people who even knew about the Horcruxes were Harry, Ron, Hermione, Voldy and Slughorn. -- darkx [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]Currently playing: Portal 2, Ocarina of Time 3D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 10/29/11 7:57:00 PM #20:	From: Panthera \| #016 How many of them even knew he had the Horcruxes? As far as I can recall, outside Harry and co, only Slughorn knew, and even he didn't outright know so much as could reasonably suspect that if Dumbledore was pressuring Harry into finding out how Tom Riddle learned about them in the first, it was a good sign Voldemort had them. Slughorn is not an idiot. He should have realized it as soon as Voldemort was not killed by a rebounded curse. It was pretty much common knowledge by the end of the first book that Voldemort had been getting along without a corporeal body and was after the Stone to sustain himself. Although Slughorn was a coward which would account for his inaction during this time. Dumbledore began to suspect horcruxes after he got his hands on the Diary, but I wonder different things would have been if he had certain knowledge at the beginning of Harry's second year... -- ~Ç~ Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:489180] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> From: Panthera \| #016How many of them even knew he had the Horcruxes? As far as I can recall, outside Harry and co, only Slughorn knew, and even he didn't outright know so much as could reasonably suspect that if Dumbledore was pressuring Harry into finding out how Tom Riddle learned about them in the first, it was a good sign Voldemort had them.Slughorn is not an idiot. He should have realized it as soon as Voldemort was not killed by a rebounded curse. It was pretty much common knowledge by the end of the first book that Voldemort had been getting along without a corporeal body and was after the Stone to sustain himself.Although Slughorn was a coward which would account for his inaction during this time. Dumbledore began to suspect horcruxes after he got his hands on the Diary, but I wonder different things would have been if he had certain knowledge at the beginning of Harry's second year... -- ~Ç~ Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdmiralZephyr 10/29/11 8:03:00 PM #21:	Yeah, Slughorn knew about the Horcruxes as soon as Voldemort didn't die when he should have. Hence why he went into hiding. -- darkx [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] Currently playing: Portal 2, Ocarina of Time 3D <cite>AdmiralZephyr posted [p:489181] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, Slughorn knew about the Horcruxes as soon as Voldemort didn't die when he should have. Hence why he went into hiding. -- darkx [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]Currently playing: Portal 2, Ocarina of Time 3D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand Kirby 10/29/11 8:05:00 PM #22:	They didn't have to know about the Horcruxes exactly. They already knew he avoided being killed once. Even before he was resurrected, many people feared he was still out there. Voldemort was surrounded by myths and superstitions that kept people in fear. People thought he could kill you if you looked into his eyes. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand Kirby posted [p:489182] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> They didn't have to know about the Horcruxes exactly. They already knew he avoided being killed once. Even before he was resurrected, many people feared he was still out there. Voldemort was surrounded by myths and superstitions that kept people in fear. People thought he could kill you if you looked into his eyes. -- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? HsuThat you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 10/29/11 8:05:00 PM #23:	Eh, that thats 11-12 years earlier Dumbledore should have had news of Horcruxes... -- ~Ç~ Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:489183] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Eh, that thats 11-12 years earlier Dumbledore should have had news of Horcruxes... -- ~Ç~ Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 10/29/11 8:08:00 PM #24:	From: Forceful_Dragon \| #020 Slughorn is not an idiot. He should have realized it as soon as Voldemort was not killed by a rebounded curse. It was pretty much common knowledge by the end of the first book that Voldemort had been getting along without a corporeal body and was after the Stone to sustain himself. Although Slughorn was a coward which would account for his inaction during this time. Dumbledore began to suspect horcruxes after he got his hands on the Diary, but I wonder different things would have been if he had certain knowledge at the beginning of Harry's second year... This doesn't change anything about other people. They suspected that Voldemort had some tricks to keep himself alive (and knew one of them worked, hence him being back) but the existence of Horcruxes is not well known, and most people at the battle wouldn't have had reason to believe AK wouldn't work (especially since it's unclear how well anyone knows exactly how his first defeat happened). Slughorn more or less "knew" it by putting together stuff he had knowledge of, but that doesn't actually tell us that anyone beyond he and Harry's group were aware that Voldemort had them active. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:489184] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> From: Forceful_Dragon \| #020Slughorn is not an idiot. He should have realized it as soon as Voldemort was not killed by a rebounded curse. It was pretty much common knowledge by the end of the first book that Voldemort had been getting along without a corporeal body and was after the Stone to sustain himself.Although Slughorn was a coward which would account for his inaction during this time. Dumbledore began to suspect horcruxes after he got his hands on the Diary, but I wonder different things would have been if he had certain knowledge at the beginning of Harry's second year...This doesn't change anything about other people. They suspected that Voldemort had some tricks to keep himself alive (and knew one of them worked, hence him being back) but the existence of Horcruxes is not well known, and most people at the battle wouldn't have had reason to believe AK wouldn't work (especially since it's unclear how well anyone knows exactly how his first defeat happened). Slughorn more or less "knew" it by putting together stuff he had knowledge of, but that doesn't actually tell us that anyone beyond he and Harry's group were aware that Voldemort had them active. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Radix 10/29/11 8:09:00 PM #25:	Good guys don't generally use the unforgivable spells which is probably the main reason Also most probably wouldn't be able to cast it strong enough Also maybe they were afraid of missing and hitting someone else -- http://img.imgcake.com/Radix1337/painting03jpguh.jpg <cite>Radix posted [p:489185] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Good guys don't generally use the unforgivable spells which is probably the main reasonAlso most probably wouldn't be able to cast it strong enough Also maybe they were afraid of missing and hitting someone else -- http://img.imgcake.com/Radix1337/painting03jpguh.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 10/29/11 8:46:00 PM #26:	Radix, that sig image is excellent. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:489186] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Radix, that sig image is excellent. -- ~Ç~ Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 10/29/11 9:28:00 PM #27:	*Straw_Hax posted...* Voldemort was fighting only three at the same time (McConnogal, Slughorn and Kingsley) and it was pretty even until Voldemort got enraged by his best warrior (Bellatrix) dying. I'm talking why didn't 100 people just rush him at that moment? High-level wand fighting seems to be a lot like swordfighting. You can't really fight when there's more than three people engaged with one target already. You could try to fire into the middle of the group, but you're more likely to hurt an ally than an enemy. Now, why it's like swordfighting never really made sense. Same with the fact that Avada Kedavra--the unblockable undodgeable spell never actually seems to hit ever. Same with how people don't use Avada Kedavra nearly enough. When voldy was point blank with three people, why didn't he just AK? No deflection for you! -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:489187] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Straw_Hax posted...Voldemort was fighting only three at the same time (McConnogal, Slughorn and Kingsley) and it was pretty even until Voldemort got enraged by his best warrior (Bellatrix) dying. I'm talking why didn't 100 people just rush him at that moment?High-level wand fighting seems to be a lot like swordfighting. You can't really fight when there's more than three people engaged with one target already. You could try to fire into the middle of the group, but you're more likely to hurt an ally than an enemy.Now, why it's like swordfighting never really made sense. Same with the fact that Avada Kedavra--the unblockable undodgeable spell never actually seems to hit ever. Same with how people don't use Avada Kedavra nearly enough. When voldy was point blank with three people, why didn't he just AK? No deflection for you! -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 10/29/11 9:34:00 PM #28:	To be fair, we didn't get an in-depth account of that battle and Voldemort probably did use AK there, but the whole "sacrifice" BS from Harry meant nothing Voldy did could actually stick on anyone at Hogwarts. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:489188] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> To be fair, we didn't get an in-depth account of that battle and Voldemort probably did use AK there, but the whole "sacrifice" BS from Harry meant nothing Voldy did could actually stick on anyone at Hogwarts. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Straw_Hax 10/30/11 12:17:00 AM #29:	*Forceful_Dragon posted...* There were a bunch of death eaters who also needed fighting, not just Voldemort. A lot of the good guys were sitting against the wall watching the few fights left. They could have all rushed Voldy. <cite>Straw_Hax posted [p:489189] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Forceful_Dragon posted...There were a bunch of death eaters who also needed fighting, not just Voldemort.A lot of the good guys were sitting against the wall watching the few fights left. They could have all rushed Voldy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 10/30/11 12:24:00 AM #30:	Avada Kedeavra is like Falcon Punch. -- "nah, it's not my team if I drop pitchers for merely being horrible" -War13104 <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:489190] in When Volde... [t:60818404]...</cite> <quote> Avada Kedeavra is like Falcon Punch. -- "nah, it's not my team if I drop pitchers for merely being horrible" -War13104 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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