Board 8 > Breaking Bad LIVE (spoilers) (NO FUTURE SPOILERS)

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i want to say that we've slowed down

but saying that 15 minutes into a breaking bad episode, this season especially, would be hilariously stupid

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saw the ricin coming but OH MY GOD

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gus you bastard

oh my god

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gusssssssssssssss

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how

the

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this show, man

THIS SHOW

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As if my expectations for this coming season weren't low already, how am I to watch Dexter after that?

From: KimPine | #007
As if my expectations for this coming season weren't low already, how am I to watch Dexter after that?

Hah, I feel pretty much exactly the same.

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no need to watch dex and breaking bad on the same day anymore! season ends next week!

and WHAT.

also, some people on C&S predicted one of the cops to be dirty. glad it wasn't the case.

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how do you suspect that

how are you that god damn smart / paranoid

how in the hell

what the f

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QUESTION: when did gus officially turn into SUPERVILLAIN status?

(a) salud
(b) I WILL KILL YOUR INFANT DAUGHTER
(c) that look in his EYES

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So Walt poisoned Brock, by the way. Apparently this is controversial, but all the pieces are there. For example, Gus being suspicious of the car bomb would've made zero sense were the poison news not shocking to him. Check out the inside-the-episode link for even more evidence of this:

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-episode-412-end-times

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And another 10/10 episode, by the way. This show just keeps putting forward the incredible acting and cinematography.

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From: BoshStrikesBack | #012
So Walt poisoned Brock, by the way. Apparently this is controversial, but all the pieces are there. For example, Gus being suspicious of the car bomb would've made zero sense were the poison news not shocking to him. Check out the inside-the-episode link for even more evidence of this:

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-episode-412-end-times

Thought this exactly

The ending doesn't make sense unless Gus suspects he's being set up, which would mean the tip-off would be the fact that Brock was poisoned.

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I'm not sure how the ending wouldn't make sense. Even if Gus knew all about the poisoning, he could still have gotten a bad feeling about his unattended car. He knows Walt is out there, is a loose cannon (he's already tipped off the DEA), and may still have a partnership with Jesse. Gus has been doing this for decades; he's got a sixth sense for crap like this.

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walt def. poisoned brock

I think he cooked something else though, perhaps something non-fatal but strong enough to get Jesse's attention. (I've read some comments that when he spun the gun on the table, it pointed to a toxic plant of some kind the third time)
He had Saul's bodyguard lift the cigarette later on to make Jesse think it was the ricin and that Gus had done it. It's certainly possible that he discussed everything with Saul ahead of time - Saul's connection and knowledge of Andrea/Brock was demonstrated earlier this season when he visited them with Jesse. He could've used that connection to deliver the poison somehow, then called Jesse all those times to make sure he got his attention, and have lifted the cigarette during their meeting.
The logic Walt argued to Jesse follows under the assumption that the poisoning only could've happened after the cigarette was lost, but Walt cooked it in the first place and can obviously come up with something at any time. He's just playing on Jesse's assumptions to turn him back to his side and against Gus.
More than anything, it seems to me like Walt is the one who has to make a desperate play like this, compared to Gus. Walt's the one with nothing to lose.

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Other points:
- It seems too easy to assume that Gus is practically omniscient and knows about the ricin, knows enough about Jesse's relationship with Brock, and knows enough about Jesse to assume that he'd immediately go after Walt and try to kill him as a response. It's plausible, but it seems so needlessly intricate and unlikely to work. Walt on the other hand knows all of those things and knows Jesse enough to understand that he could use his anger to turn him against Gus again.
- From past memory, wasn't the ricin shown to take effect several days later? The timeframe doesn't make sense if it's ricin; it's more likely Walt cooked a different poison instead.

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Yeah, I seem to recall Walt saying that ricin would take like 3 days or something before symptoms started showing.

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BoshStrikesBack posted...
So Walt poisoned Brock, by the way. Apparently this is controversial, but all the pieces are there. For example, Gus being suspicious of the car bomb would've made zero sense were the poison news not shocking to him. Check out the inside-the-episode link for even more evidence of this:

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-episode-412-end-times

I really hope gus didnt poison him, because it just makes no sense for him to do so (no foreshadowing whatsoever) and kind of put a damper on the episode imo

maybe it was Mike!

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SlymDayspring posted...
Yeah, I seem to recall Walt saying that ricin would take like 3 days or something before symptoms started showing.

In Gus, not an 9 year old

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oh, right. didn't think about that.

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Actually, ricin does begin to show symptoms pretty quickly, starting out like a normal cold and rapidly growing worse. It's death that doesn't happen until three days, and frankly, I wouldn't put it past Walt to kill a kid to save his family.

And though it may be irrelevant/a red herring, a Season 4 interview with Vince Gilligan apparently said that this season, we'd "lose all sympathy" for Walt. Points to him doing the poisoning.

Then again, the beauty of this episode was that it's supposed to be ambiguous! Though the evidence against Walt is much more damning upon closer inspection, apparently most people think that Gus "obviously" did it, so apparently the show was trickier than I thought.

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BoshStrikesBack posted...
And though it may be irrelevant/a red herring, a Season 4 interview with Vince Gilligan apparently said that this season, we'd "lose all sympathy" for Walt. Points to him doing the poisoning.

I think this is what just sold me on the Walt theory.

He did, after all, let Jesse's girlfriend die.

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I dont think I would be happy with Walt being so cold-blooded like that though.

Jesse isn't likable enough as a straight-up "hero" imo

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Just the fact that Jesse said poison can be a tipoff to Gus either way, whether he poisoned Brock or Walt did. I like the theories so far, but I can't believe the poison to be deadly, because Walt did indeed say that Gus is cold enough to use kids, and Walt isn't. That's what I think at least. I hope it gets revealed though, and it isn't an eternal mystery. Although it coming out would mean Walt or Jesse dies.


Can't see the cigarette being stolen by Saul's bodyguard btw, I think Jesse would notice first off and I don't think Saul would do it. Don't see Walt thinking THAT far ahead before that moment by the way, because he seemed to accept "death" at first.

From: BoshStrikesBack | #012
So Walt poisoned Brock, by the way. Apparently this is controversial, but all the pieces are there. For example, Gus being suspicious of the car bomb would've made zero sense were the poison news not shocking to him. Check out the inside-the-episode link for even more evidence of this:

http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-episode-412-end-times

do you really think Vince Gilligan would let one of his actors blow one of the potential pivoting points not only of the finale, and the season, but of the shot itself, in a web video?

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going off what cokes said, if the AMC site is pretty much confirming something that's not been revealed i'd consider that a pretty clear example of a future spoiler

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all of this conjecture reminds me of LOST except I know that it wont result in complete disappointment this time!

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Mershaaay posted...
all of this conjecture reminds me of LOST except I know that it wont result in complete disappointment this time!

The mystery in season 2 resulted in complete disappointment!

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I'm rewatching the first episode of Breaking Bad


And I wouldn't be surprised if the final scene of the show is very similar to the first scene of the show. It'd fit really well.