Ok so in a recession whats Rick Perry going to do. Get tough on inflation? how does that even work?
The only Republican who has a message that will resonate with moderates in the Democratic Party and Independents(two groups Obama WILL NOT be re-elected without)
He looks competent and has economic experience and gravitas.
Rick Perry may have done a good job as governor of Texas(maybe, I dont know but I assume if people think hes a contender he must not have sucked), but he does not exude competence and he has done and said such out there extreme things that hes going to be relying on mobilizing the maniacs in order to beat Obama, who has recently woke up and started to be able to tap into his old self and probably alot of the same support he once enjoyed.
This effect will be magnified if its Perry and not Romney.
SmartMuffin posted... Ok so in a recession whats Rick Perry going to do. Get tough on inflation? how does that even work?
It works by ending the Fed and returning to the classical gold standard. Rick Perry won't do that though, so don't worry about it.
What I'm saying is you can't "get tough" on economics. Theres literally no way to do it. The only way he could win that way is if the campaign isn't about how the economy sucks, which is where Obama is vulnerable You elect a guy like Perry when youre fighting a war or a high crime rate, you dont hire him to fix your economy.
This all becomes a problem of what issues you'd like to elect based on and the whole things starts becoming pointless because you'll rarely find someone that matches all your interests, or all of your family's interests, etc.
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Why are you asking me this? Is this like some litmus test for arguing with SmartMuffin, or what? And of course I can.
I'm just curious. You seem rather upset about the results of an election which you admit to knowing nothing about either candidate solely because of how it affects Obama. It's almost as if you fail to grasp the concept that the Legislative branch is responsible for creating law and is vitally important in and of itself, regardless of how it affects Obama. I hope I'm wrong.
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From: SmartMuffin | #057 Why are you asking me this? Is this like some litmus test for arguing with SmartMuffin, or what? And of course I can.
I'm just curious. You seem rather upset about the results of an election which you admit to knowing nothing about either candidate solely because of how it affects Obama. It's almost as if you fail to grasp the concept that the Legislative branch is responsible for creating law and is vitally important in and of itself, regardless of how it affects Obama. I hope I'm wrong.
I don't think you understood what I was saying at all. All I said was that if a congressional district just flipped Republican for the first time in 90 years, that's saying something about the general climate of not just that area, but potentially large portions of the country. I don't see how my understanding of government branches (or lack there-of) has anything to do with that.
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Thats not getting tough, that executing a plan that someone thought up.
^Then who do you hire to fix your economy?
This all becomes a problem of what issues you'd like to elect based on and the whole things starts becoming pointless because you'll rarely find someone that matches all your interests, or all of your family's interests, etc.
I think John Stewart said it best Rick Perry is a guy you like from your nuts, while Mitt Romney appeals to your brain. In an economic slowdown that we all recognize is difficult and requires careful thought, you go with the Romney, not the Perry.
My point is more to try to emphasize to you that an R and a D next to someones name is virtually meaningless in these days. Without knowing anything about the candidates involved, there's a more than halfway decent chance the guy who won is fairly consistent with your ideology, ESPECIALLY if he's another Scott Brown.
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From: SmartMuffin | #063 My point is more to try to emphasize to you that an R and a D next to someones name is virtually meaningless in these days. Without knowing anything about the candidates involved, there's a more than halfway decent chance the guy who won is fairly consistent with your ideology, ESPECIALLY if he's another Scott Brown.
Fair point, then. So you're saying I shouldn't be so worried? I mean, this is assuming that the voters in Sephy's district were voting largely based on their ideologies instead of the R or D next to the name?
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My point is more to try to emphasize to you that an R and a D next to someones name is virtually meaningless in these days. Without knowing anything about the candidates involved, there's a more than halfway decent chance the guy who won is fairly consistent with your ideology, ESPECIALLY if he's another Scott Brown.
On the contrary, votes in Congress usually follow the party lines very closely these days. Especially on the Republican side, they almost never vote against their own party. Scott Brown is actually the rare exception who thinks for himself instead of just going with the party line all the time.
And Extha is right to be worried if he supports Obama for reelection. A rising tide for one of the parties lifts all boats. Obviously it isn't the only thing voters care about, but it's extremely important. An urban NYC district going Republican is pretty shocking, as it probably went something like 80-20 for Obama in 2008.
On the contrary, votes in Congress usually follow the party lines very closely these days.
True, my point is more that on most MAJOR issues, Republicans and Democrats are one and the same. Remember, Bush, McCain, Obama, and Hilary ALL supported the bailouts. All support foreign wars of choice. All favor the progressive income tax. None of them want any serious social security reform. I could go on and on here.
The splits that go "along party lines" are things like "should we cut the projected budget by 0.1% or 0.2%"
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Fair point, then. So you're saying I shouldn't be so worried?
Well, I suppose IF you believe that the choice between Obama and Romney will have any real significant impact on the long-term future of this country, I guess you could be worried. That belief would be stupid and wrong, but hey, to each their own.
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I guess I shouldn't be worried on the grounds that if my life goes the way I want it to I won't be part of this country's long term future anyway.
Good luck with that. Renouncing your citizenship is a really complicated process. Until you do, you'll still have to pay American taxes. Oh, and if you succeed in renouncing, they tax about 30% of whatever assets you're taking with you.
Also, it's not like you'll be going anywhere we couldn't invade if we felt like it ^_^
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From: SmartMuffin | #071 I guess I shouldn't be worried on the grounds that if my life goes the way I want it to I won't be part of this country's long term future anyway.
Good luck with that. Renouncing your citizenship is a really complicated process. Until you do, you'll still have to pay American taxes. Oh, and if you succeed in renouncing, they tax about 30% of whatever assets you're taking with you.
Also, it's not like you'll be going anywhere we couldn't invade if we felt like it ^_^
I'll be taking my laptop and my cat, basically.
Have fun taxing that, and knowing that once my student loans are paid off I'll be using all those wonderful skills I've learned to contribute to some other country's betterment. ^_^
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