Board 8 > DotA 2 Topic 2 - "I die as I lived... alone."

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Shoenin_Kakashi
08/20/11 3:47:00 AM
#101:


yeah that

Last time I played it was a single target nuke that did damage based on how much mana the enemy lacked.

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janembaman
08/20/11 4:16:00 AM
#102:


It is still the same
Just with AOE

It's kinda broken imo,using this on a hero like Lina that used all her spells (she has high mana pool and nukes cost alot of mana) is pretty much crazy
After Lina cast Dragon Slave,LSA and ulti,AM can attack her 4 times and ulti for 1320 AOE damage
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janembaman
08/20/11 4:25:00 AM
#103:


Ok I don't udnerstand anything
According to the Schedule,M5 vs Nirvana was before MYM vs Ig
Yet M5 game ended just now,and MYM already beat IG before? what?
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xHFx
08/20/11 5:47:00 AM
#104:


I'm playing DotA again. Started it up a few days ago. The delay and game's graphics are something I had to adjust to but in a few days I'm back to being cool with it.

And is anyone watching the ****ing game?!? I just tuned in after a DotA game (that I was playing on TFT) and holy ****...!!
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xHFx
08/20/11 5:50:00 AM
#105:


m5 vs ehome btw
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The Yoshimaster007
08/20/11 5:52:00 AM
#106:


damn, m5 spent way too much time on looking to gank and paid dearly for it.

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xHFx
08/20/11 6:00:00 AM
#107:


I didn't watch the whole match but it looked like M5 should have just kept up with their push.

Having no hard carry (does Storm Spirit qualify as a carry?) makes it hard to fight against a team with one.
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Aecioo
08/20/11 6:14:00 AM
#108:


Storm Spirit can definitely carry, but he doesn't carry nearly as hard as the other agi carries. He just makes up for it by having a boss early game too.

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The Real Truth
08/20/11 8:44:00 AM
#109:


Speaking of Storm (and I don't know how often he's been picked), he's a much better hero than Anti-Mage, and way more annoying from my experience. Has he been picked much in comparison?

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Ness26
08/20/11 9:26:00 AM
#110:


SS hasn't been picked as much, but I've still seen him fairly often.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/illinois.edu/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AnPAxdKN7De5dHRnQlZIX3NldVJpa2Z1aldETzVteUE&type=view&gid=0&f=true&sortcolid=9&sortasc=false&rowsperpage=250&ndplr=1

That says he's been in 5 games, while AM has been in 9. I don't think that list counts bans though, and I dunno if it has been updated since group play.

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Aecioo
08/20/11 10:22:00 AM
#111:


SS was seeing a bunch of bans day 1 iirc

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Xiahou Shake
08/20/11 12:54:00 PM
#112:


Replays are going up a bit slower today it seems. Just watched the first Scythe vs. Na'Vi round, that was insanely brutal.

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Xiahou Shake
08/20/11 3:49:00 PM
#113:


All but the last match are up now, time to catch up and get hyped for the championship!

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Xiahou Shake
08/20/11 5:03:00 PM
#114:


http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/game/8/?p=0&v=1
Probably the closest match of the tournament, damn.

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meisnewbie
08/20/11 5:12:00 PM
#115:


I'm going to admit I'm ignorant, and probably dumb. But that morphling game... isn't that just him freefarming all game and occasionally escaping while his team does interesting stuff elsewhere?

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Xiahou Shake
08/20/11 5:18:00 PM
#116:


From: meisnewbie | #115
I'm going to admit I'm ignorant, and probably dumb. But that morphling game... isn't that just him freefarming all game and occasionally escaping while his team does interesting stuff elsewhere?


It's the escapes and the killing half a base by himself at the end that's the fun part.
Yeah, they were dumb to let him freefarm, but it doesn't take away from how hilariously great it was. Similar to the Anti-Mage obliteration that happened last night.

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Aecioo
08/20/11 5:43:00 PM
#117:


meisnewbie posted...
I'm going to admit I'm ignorant, and probably dumb. But that morphling game... isn't that just him freefarming all game and occasionally escaping while his team does interesting stuff elsewhere?

It was just hilarious to see him constantly go back and forth and push half the base by himself.

They let him freefarm, and then got caught into 4v5ing the other team and not winning while Morphling farmed and farmed and farmed. They seriously went for a single gank on him early on that failed, and other than that they just poked around the map against the rest of the team.

That does not work!

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 12:30:00 AM
#118:


Oh wow, watching a replay right now. When did they change Sand King? Sand Storm gives invis to allies now?

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Shoenin_Kakashi
08/21/11 12:31:00 AM
#119:


The Real Truth posted...
Oh wow, watching a replay right now. When did they change Sand King? Sand Storm gives invis to allies now?

it does?

Neat

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 12:56:00 AM
#120:


Pretty sure it does. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:01:00 AM
#121:


Storm's model is too small. I can see him being even more annoying to kill. I hope the hitbox is big enough.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:09:00 AM
#122:


Anyone watching?

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Shoenin_Kakashi
08/21/11 1:11:00 AM
#123:


I believe I am

either that or fappin.

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Blairville
08/21/11 1:12:00 AM
#124:


I'm watching. Are both teams chinese?

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:15:00 AM
#125:


China - EHOME vs. Singapore - Scythe, I think.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:15:00 AM
#126:


Oh man once again I almost forgot it was go time!
EHOME is the last chinese team still in the tournament. Scythe is from Singapore.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:15:00 AM
#127:


I think the Ukraine team is waiting in the finals.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:16:00 AM
#128:


Whoever survives this match goes on to face Na'Vi (Ukraine) in the championship match!
GET HYPE.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:16:00 AM
#129:


Is the final match after this?

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:17:00 AM
#130:


That Ukraine team played well in the match I watched. I remember their PotM being pretty useless though.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:17:00 AM
#131:


This is a best of 3 match-up, but yes, after this is the championship.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:18:00 AM
#132:


Alas, I probably won't be able to stay awake long enough to watch the championship live, I'll have to be sure to avoid spoilers before I watch.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:18:00 AM
#133:


I'm not going to be watching either. I'll probably sleep before this game is even over. I have to work in about 10 hours.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:21:00 AM
#134:


I wonder how popular this topic would be if the tournament matches happened at a decent hour.
Ah well, going to have to wait a little longer before the true hype storm hits B8.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:23:00 AM
#135:


Damn my internet. I don't think I'll be able to watch this.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:27:00 AM
#136:


Did they just say you don't lose gold when dying to neutrals? Did they change it? Because that's a terrible idea if it's true.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:30:00 AM
#137:


This game as it is now is completely 1:1 with the latest version of DotA.
Not sure what that's like these days but everything's the same as it is there.

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The Yoshimaster007
08/21/11 1:31:00 AM
#138:


It better not be true cause damn that'd be broken.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:33:00 AM
#139:


Yeah I'm not completely up to date because I last played DotA like....I don't know, probably 6-8 months ago. I got back into HoN after that since some of my friends were playing but that only lasted about a month or so.

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Blairville
08/21/11 1:51:00 AM
#140:


Big mistake by Weaver! Don't fight Anti Mage with no mana.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:52:00 AM
#141:


Haha, yeah, seriously.
I get the feeling Anti-Mage is gonna pull it out for Scythe once again!

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 1:53:00 AM
#142:


Bahaha, oh god that fight with Storm Spirit just now, that was hilarious.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:54:00 AM
#143:


Too much of an emphasis on carries needing to solo farm while their teams are fighting for the first 20-30 minutes in some of these games.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 1:55:00 AM
#144:


Xiahou Shake posted...
Haha, yeah, seriously.
I get the feeling Anti-Mage is gonna pull it out for Scythe once again!


Scythe was already winning without him.

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 2:01:00 AM
#145:


Yeah this isn't really the same as before I guess. >_>
Well, a fed Anti-Mage never hurts.~

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 2:04:00 AM
#146:


Honestly, from what I've experienced throughout my time with DotA, you don't "need" that carry to farm for 30 minutes. By doing that you're taking a player out of the game, and in those 4vs5 or even 4vs4 fights that are close, having a hero actually be there is way more important. Typically, a team that is going to win, is going to win without that late game carry. Unless that carry had been fighting all game. I'm strictly talking in a game like this, where the dude just does nothing but farm. Imagine if Weaver if actually done something, or had a hero like Slardar, and was in fights the entire time. I dislike heroes like Anti-Mage because they are almost completely useless earlier in the game.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 2:08:00 AM
#147:


This is also why I think a hero like Sniper is way better than Anti-Mage. He actually has some incentive to be in a fight. Assassination coupled with his slow is a great way to finish people off. He's actually useful in team fights. He can kill people without all of that farming. He's just even deadlier later. I prefer carries that can actually "do" stuff.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 2:09:00 AM
#148:


Going to sleep. I'll catch the finals replay later.

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The Real Truth
08/21/11 2:27:00 AM
#149:


Wow Void is ugly

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Xiahou Shake
08/21/11 2:29:00 AM
#150:


Going to sleep, eh? ;)
His new look has grown on me, though a skin with his good ol' Lovecraft face would be welcome!

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