Board 8 > New DmC trailer and artwork from GamesCom.

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Justin_Crossing
08/16/11 3:09:00 AM
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second screenshot looks like super mario sunshine

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Shoenin_Kakashi
08/16/11 3:10:00 AM
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the Dante redesign complaints might be the stupidest thing ive ever heard so much whining about.

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ZFS
08/16/11 3:17:00 AM
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Trailer is nothing huge. It shows some good old DMC moves, but the framerate isn't so great. I'm not sure if that's because of the video, or the state of the game right now. Probably the latter! New Dante's design has been altered a bit, too. Still looks nothing like Real Dante, but it's an improvement from the last time they showed him.



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YetAnothrShadow
08/16/11 3:40:00 AM
#4:


This redesign is lot better than the last one at least.

ALOT better. But he still looks nothing like Dante.

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PartOfYourWorld
08/16/11 3:50:00 AM
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wtf is the point of the redesign, anyway. Fans loved Dante. Hey Capcom, redesign Zangief to look like Edward from Twilight, it's what I always wanted.

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ZFS
08/16/11 3:56:00 AM
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Capcom let Ninja Theory (Heavenly Sword, Enslaved) develop the game instead of doing it internally! Why they changed Dante, I dunno. This is supposed to be a "reboot" kind of deal, so everything is different from the past three games. Again, why do that? Who knows. Capcom classix.

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HatecreW_
08/16/11 3:59:00 AM
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The franchise needed something new. But then again, I think the first one was nigh perfect.

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ShadowHalo17
08/16/11 4:04:00 AM
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I forgot they were going this.

Sad now.

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ZFS
08/16/11 4:09:00 AM
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Not really. DMC4 was a great game - it had issues, but it was good overall. The DMC formula wasn't broken or tired, and I'm not so sure this game is going to do much to push the series forward.

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YetAnothrShadow
08/16/11 4:11:00 AM
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To be honest. All DMC needs is more weapon choices.

What it had going for it was fine.

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ZFS
08/16/11 12:19:00 PM
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woo

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:20:00 PM
#12:


More faith in Ninja Theory than Capcom right now so I'm all for it.

Enslaved was better than DMC4.

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:23:00 PM
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Also the amount of unnecessary hate this game is getting based ENTIRELY on "eww I don't think Dante is hot anymore" with NO OTHER BASIS is hilarious.

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/16/11 12:23:00 PM
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From: KimPilgrim | #012
Enslaved was better than DMC4


YOU DON'T HAVE SCHOOLS

YOU HAVE MECHS

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ZFS
08/16/11 12:23:00 PM
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Haha. Better in what way? Certainly not the combat -- and I enjoyed Enslaved for what it was.

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:25:00 PM
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Well no not the combat. I just enjoyed the story and characters way more, and the combat was decent enough. Problem with DMC4 was that it was just a worse HD DMC3. It had nothing going for it at all if you had a copy of DMC3 in your home.

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/16/11 12:26:00 PM
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You have a game series loved by millions for its 60fps, incredibly in-depth, zero input lag combat

and you give it to a company with sub-30 fps gameplay, shallow combat system with way too much input lag.

It's like giving the keys of your Porsche to the blind old lady across the street who's only driving experience was kart racing when she was 12.

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ZFS
08/16/11 12:27:00 PM
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KimPilgrim posted...
Also the amount of unnecessary hate this game is getting based ENTIRELY on "eww I don't think Dante is hot anymore" with NO OTHER BASIS is hilarious.

For some people, sure. For other people, not really. Ninja Theory had certain strengths, ones that aren't going to be of too much benefit to DMC. Stable framerates, compelling fighting systems, smooth animation -- these aren't things they do all well. They make nice cutscenes, and art direction, but everything we've seen here leaves something to be desired.

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:28:00 PM
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I have to admit that NOTHING can top this, though.



From: TheKoolAidShoto | #017
You have a game series loved by millions for its 60fps, incredibly in-depth, zero input lag combat

and you give it to a company with sub-30 fps gameplay, shallow combat system with way too much input lag.

It's like giving the keys of your Porsche to the blind old lady across the street who's only driving experience was kart racing when she was 12.




The game isn't out yet, you have no idea how it will play or the combat will work.

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/16/11 12:29:00 PM
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From: KimPilgrim | #019
The game isn't out yet, you have no idea how it will play or the combat will work.


It's on the Unreal Engine 3. Its not doing 60 fps. Look at that trailer, the framerate is janky as s***.

Ninja Theory has made 3 mediocre-to-terrible video games. I don't have a lot of confidence in these people, for good damn reason.

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ZFS
08/16/11 12:30:00 PM
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DMC4 had better art, better level design (Nero's levels, anyway), and DMC4 Dante's combat was even better than DMC3. The problem is that his segments felt tacked on and broken (lol levels in reverse). Also, dice mini-game. DMC3 is still better, but DMC4 had plenty going for it.

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:31:00 PM
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Well to each their own. I personally have no interest in them just making another DMC3 lite again so I'm glad we're getting something different. I have no issues playing DMC3 another couple times!

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ZFS
08/16/11 12:33:00 PM
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But this doesn't look that different, just worse. I think it's telling that Capcom is afraid of showing too much of this game. If you're excited for the story and character possibilities... I dunno! Dante was great before, and this isn't a series that needs cutscenes to be anything more than 2-minute action sequences!

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:35:00 PM
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Not difficult to top DMC4's story.

And yes that is why I'm interested in it.

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ZFS
08/16/11 12:39:00 PM
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I guess we play DMC for different reasons! The story is there to break up the gameplay. It has an interesting backstory and world, but I don't trust Ninja Theory to do Dante justice. Gotta have that Capcom cheese to get it right. The story is whatever for me -- combat and framerate will be the make-or-break factors with this game.

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:40:00 PM
#26:


I got these DMC novels sittin' here

Shows where I stand

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/16/11 12:41:00 PM
#27:


People playing Devil May Cry games for the story

I've f***ing heard it all.

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The Real Truth
08/16/11 12:46:00 PM
#28:


I'm pretending this new game doesn't exist. The lead director has already stated where he stands. He wants to put himself in the game.

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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:47:00 PM
#29:


I'm an odd duck alright.

From: The Real Truth | #028
I'm pretending this new game doesn't exist. The lead director has already stated where he stands. He wants to put himself in the game.


I don't really see how how that would effect the game, and no he never said that, people have assumed it.

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demonfang178
08/16/11 12:55:00 PM
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KimPilgrim posted...
Also the amount of unnecessary hate this game is getting based ENTIRELY on "eww I don't think Dante is hot anymore" with NO OTHER BASIS is hilarious.

Good thing the majority of people's discontent extends far beyond a reasonably stupid cosmetic change.

And what's with the trailer only showing the scythe? We know he has at least three weapons. It's not a secret anymore.
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KimPilgrim
08/16/11 12:56:00 PM
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Good thing the majority of people's discontent extends far beyond a reasonably stupid cosmetic change.


Don't kid yourself. There are people with real issues with it, especially on B8, but most people only care that he has black hair.

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demonfang178
08/16/11 1:04:00 PM
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KimPilgrim posted...
Good thing the majority of people's discontent extends far beyond a reasonably stupid cosmetic change.


Don't kid yourself. There are people with real issues with it, especially on B8, but most people only care that he has black hair.


I'll stop here because I don't feel like listing the numerous gripes with the redesign that have nothing to do with the hair.
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ZFS
08/17/11 9:05:00 AM
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Here's an interview from Gamescom from the director: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-17-dmc-sceptics-secretly-want-to-like-it

"Capcom and Ninja Theory have presented a united front and promised that, in the wake of a fan backlash, the upcoming Devil May Cry reboot will still "feel" and "work" like old Devil May Cry games."

Tameem Antoniades, co-founder of developer Ninja Theory (Heavenly Sword, Enslaved), said: "We've got our plan and we're not changing it." He went on to promise that DMC will "make sense" to fans "when you get your hands on it." "The people who are sceptical secretly want to like it," Antoniades added, "and our job is to prove it's Devil May Cry in essence."

Tameem Antoniades went on to tackle the issue of frame rate. The Devil May Cry prequel will run at only 30 frames per second, whereas old Devil May Cry games opted for 60FPS. Antoniades said his game will be "locked" at 30FPS, and that the reduction allows his team to add "stuff like the world changing" - the way levels can transform dramatically during gameplay. The director of the old Devil May Cry games will also work with Ninja Theory to ensure the "feel of 60FPS" remains.

"It will feel like a proper Devil May Cry when you have the controller in your hand," insisted Antoniades.


Not sure how I feel about that. It sucks they aren't even trying to get 60FPS - that has always been a series staple. Not one of Ninja's Theory's games have been "locked" at a stable framerate, so I'm not so sure they'll be able to do it here. We'll see, I guess!

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/17/11 9:05:00 AM
#34:


Game confirmed to be terrible!

Oh, but don't worry, it "feels like 60fps", whatever the holy F*** that means!

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Tornadoman78
08/17/11 9:07:00 AM
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as much as i want to look at this case of how much of DMC fan i am ill do it later kinda busy thow thanks for posting it up

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HanOfTheNekos
08/17/11 9:31:00 AM
#36:


The last picture you posted makes it look like they're going to try to put that Good/Evil junk in this game.

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CeraSeptem
08/17/11 10:00:00 AM
#37:


It saddens me that 60 fps is still something for which games strive.

Also, in DMC3 you couldn't literally beat an old man to death so there's that!

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skull_bonek23
08/17/11 10:45:00 AM
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The Devil May Cry prequel

So it's NOT a reboot? Also this trailer made me waaay more excited than the last one did even if that doesn't say much. His design looks a little better too

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