Board 8 > Besides, we all know Darth Sidious would defeat Voldemort in a straight up fight

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How would he block an Avada Kedavra?

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I don't think he could beat Prime Dumbledore tho tbqh

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Dodge it (it's a projectile, right) and Force yoink Voldy's wand?

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How would he block an Avada Kedavra?


Human shield? Random piece of metal?

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No, Avada Kedavra is just GREEN FLASH and bam you're dead.

It's too fast.

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Force Lightning collision! Mwhahahah!

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Avada Kedavra is not so easily dodgeable as they always incorrectly portray it in the films.

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Palpatine could also pretty much make a force wormhole and suck it up

yes he could

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Not fast enough to block it.

Palps would have to get the jump on Voldy to win. Sneak up behind him, force pull his wand, and it's over. But if they meet face to face, it's over for Mr. Sidious.

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But it's not like he could actually defeat Voldemort with all of his Horcruxes. The only thing that managed to temporarily stop him was love, and Palpatine ain't got that.

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Palpatine pretty much has horcruxes (kinda) too, so this battle might not actually end

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could palpatine force sense where the horcruxes are?

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I'd think it would depend on how strong each of the Horcruxes is in the force, cause Sidious can definitely sense things over galactic size spaces, but I'm not sure each individual horcrux is strong enough to be felt

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If Avada Kedavra is so unbeatable then what's with all this wizard duelling nonsense and "voldemort is unbeatable" stuff everyone says in the books


Just Avada Kedavra that *****.

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Did you miss the part about all the Horcruxes?

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Even with the Horcruxes one Avada Kedavra kept Voldemort dormant for like 13 years.

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Well, there's also the fact that Avada Kedavra is an Unforgivable Curse, and since many good wizards are above those, they tend to not use them. It's a pride/nobility sort of thing.

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Only a backfired one. He's too good at Legilimency to let anyone but a Snape-level Occlumens get one over on him straight up.

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Voldemort is not the brightest evil dictator. I'm sure he could be struck by another one with some creativity.

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Yeah, Voldemort's biggest downfall is his pride, he loves the idea of leaving himself with one single incredibly unlikely-to-be-found Death Star-esque weakness just for dramatic effect.

He could have just made a random rock into a Horcrux and threw it into the ocean, but no, he loved those "significant artifacts."

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You know, one thing's still bothering me. Somewhere it's said that "no one has ever ripped his soul into seven pieces" or something along those lines. So no one has killed more than five times before Voldemort? Really?

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Pirateking2000 posted...
looked up topic and people basically said both are capable of OHKOing each other

however Voldemorth has to say his move while Sidious merely has to move his hand (giving him speed advantage?)

he takes wand and Voldemort is ****ed

Wizards can use spells without calling out their names. Something which Rowling somehow forgot.

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looked up topic and people basically said both are capable of OHKOing each other

however Voldemort has to say his move while Sidious merely has to move his hand (giving him speed advantage?)

he takes wand and Voldemort is ****ed

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For the record I think Sidious would win, since he would be able to sense Voldemort before Voldemort would be able to sense him.

Wizards of Voldemort level CAN do spells without saying the words, but the more advanced the spell the more difficult it is. I'm not sure if something as intense as Avada Kedavra could be done silently. Just conjecture though.

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Or Voldemort really likes the sound of himself shouting the Curse of Death. I think that would be more in-character.

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I don't think it would be that easy to blast Voldemort with Avada Kedavra to beat him...


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The Horcruxes don't change the fact that the only two times Voldemort lost a duel (not counting him just being driven off) was because his own spells backfired on him. He was obviously skilled enough to take on any wizard who came after him. Wasn't he taking on three Hogwarts teachers at the end of DH? And he even made Dumbledore merely draw with him in their battle. The Horcruxes assured his survival even defeat, but his skill made sure that he rarely would be defeated in the first place.

I don't think using AK against him would be easy. Aside from the fact that you'd have to find an opening to use it while dueling before he kills you first, it's difficult to use Unforgivable Curses "unless you truly mean it", and Avada Kedavra has to be the hardest of all to master. Very few noble wizards would be able to casually use it even if they wanted to kill Voldemort, let alone use it well, and while being under attack.

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That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan

I don't really get the "really meaning it" part when applied to AK. I mean, either you kill someone or you don't. There's no middle ground. So you could actually be firing a completely useless spell.

Actually that does make a bit of sense.

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I imagine it would just fail to work. Beginning wizards can't cast spells reliably even if they technically know what they need to do.

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That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan

Yeah, it's like Barty Crouch Jr. told the kids when he was teaching DADA under the guise of Mad-Eye Moody, the entire class could have pointed their wands at him and said the words and he wouldn't even get a nosebleed.

It takes a real desire to end a human's life to actually make the spell work.

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Bringing up murderous hatred against Voldemort doesn't seem like a hard thing to do.

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Eh you guys way overestimate AK. Spells are easily dodged/redirected/blocked otherwise whenever the Death Eaters fought the Order it would be over in 10 seconds based on whoever lands the first Stunner/AK/whatever . There is much more to a duel, you have to be fast, you have to use your surroundings, etc.

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I feel like guns would solve most of the Harry Potter universe's problems

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From: Diet Water | Posted: 7/11/2011 9:02:24 PM | #034
I feel like guns would solve most of the Harry Potter universe's problems

I am now imagining a scene involving a wizard and Indiana Jones.

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I feel like guns would solve most of the Harry Potter universe's problems


<whips out shotgun> I GOT YOUR AVADA KEDAVRA RIGHT HERE (blasts Death Eater)

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From: Diet Water | #034
I feel like guns would solve most of the Harry Potter universe's problems

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Darth Plagueis would be a more fitting opponent.

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Sidious is stronger than Plagueis though

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But Plagueis was obsessed with immortality, wasn't he?

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IIRC, JK said even Dumbledore has no protection against being sniped.

And what do we know about Plagueis? All I know is that he was killed by Sidious.

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Wasn't Voldy killed by Harry Potter or something?

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darth sidious would so win

one of the main force powers is intuitive future sight, they tone it down in games n stuff, but he could definitely block stuff, and generally just absorb spells. see how samuel jackson absorbs area-effect lightning magic into his lightsaber in some movie or sommat

plus harry dodges that death spell by jumping behind a tombstone or something a couple times in the books

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I kind of doubt Sidious was really stronger than Plagueis, considering he had to kill him in his sleep

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Sidious has been documented as being only behind Anakin and Luke as far as force power goes, I think.

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Didn't Sidious lose to Windu too?

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