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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 1:25:00 AM
#351:


Oh for the love of--

I'm reading the Green Arrow Industries Flashpoint tie-in now, and Ollie is talking to Roy, cool, Roy is saying Ollie can make a difference, cool, hope for them teaming up and taking down some villains with bow and arrows--

Roy is suddenly dead with an arrow stuck in his neck on the next page.

F*** YOU DC.

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 1:29:00 AM
#352:


Oh my... And then Ollie decides to do something, so he picks up a bow. Aww yeah.

Then he throws it down and runs off with a gun and other weapons used by the Flash's rogues.

STOP TROLLING, DC.

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 1:35:00 AM
#353:


WHOA I didn't see that twist coming at all. Good one. And then another twist caught me by surprise.

AND THEN ANOTHER.

What a great issue.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 10:22:00 AM
#354:


http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-tony-daniel-detective-comic-110701.html

He wasn't already? Could have fooled me.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/01/11 10:32:00 AM
#355:


Daniel: The premise is suspense/crime-thriller. If I could describe it in a word, it would be ‘hardcore.’

hell yeah mang

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 1:08:00 PM
#356:


http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-the-new-52-retailer-info-110701.html

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 5:30:00 PM
#357:


So...what's the deal with the Marvel BLANK WHITE PAGE variant covers?

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 5:34:00 PM
#358:


Do it yourself covers!

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 5:56:00 PM
#359:


I just reread Morrison's Jason Todd story on a whim and I think it may be Morrison's worst work ever. I actively hate his characterization of Jason Todd and I don't think he got the character at all.

Or maybe he was pulling a Magneto and trying to make him look bad or something.

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 6:13:00 PM
#360:


What was there to hate about his Jason Todd? I thought it was great characterization. Other than the stupid penis helmet.

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/01/11 6:23:00 PM
#361:


The Philip Tan artwork

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/01/11 7:33:00 PM
#362:


Morrison was trying to make Jason Todd into something that he's not and he became randomly verbose and got this holier-than-thou attitude. That doesn't seem at all what Jason would be like. Winnick's characterization of him in Under the Red Hood was simpler, but a lot more effective: he's a vigilante that's not above cutting off a few heads to get what he wants.

And then putting those heads in a duffel bag.

And then giving that duffel bag to the heads of drug rings and telling them to step off.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 7:35:00 PM
#363:


Jason Todd is an extreme vigilante who stops criminals whatever the means and the only person's opinion he cares about it Batman's.

Morrison put Jason on a quest for more Facebook hits, essentially.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:11:00 PM
#364:


I realize people are probably tired of me *****ing about this, but Greg Land's art is literally ruining Uncanny X-Men for me.

Look at this ****ing page.

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Not a single panel on that entire god damn page makes sense.

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 8:18:00 PM
#365:


Yeah.

How did she fly upside down after getting punched wtf.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/01/11 8:21:00 PM
#366:


Well duh, that last panel is obviously upside down. Chrome Girl isn't actually standing on the ground, she's the one flying upside down as she punches the other girl. Makes more sense than her standing anyways.

What I want to know is where all those restraints went. And also why one of her legs is so much shorter than the other in the third panel.

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 8:22:00 PM
#367:


LtM all of your Marvel X-Men talk is boring me.

You've barely talked about anything concerning DC throughout this whole topic. Starting to worry me, man!

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:22:00 PM
#368:


The horrors of when Land can't find something to trace

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 8:23:00 PM
#369:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #367
What I want to know is where all those restraints went. And also why one of her legs is so much shorter than the other in the third panel.


Clearly the porn he was tracing over only had the top half of the woman in the shot, so he had to improvise with the legs.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:24:00 PM
#370:


In better news, I'm already hooked on New Mutants volume 2 after 1 issue. It's great finding current ongoing series to like that aren't too long yet but still have plenty of content to read!

Magik also seems pretty great.

Karma too. Seems like she's had it pretty rough as an formerly 600-pound orphaned Vietnamese lesbian raising her 2 younger siblings while teaching at Xaviers and losing a leg

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 8:24:00 PM
#371:


Oh but she's bending her leg in the third panel obviously.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:25:00 PM
#372:


From: ShadowHalo17 | #368
LtM all of your Marvel X-Men talk is boring me.

You've barely talked about anything concerning DC throughout this whole topic. Starting to worry me, man!


My DC backlog is nearly nonexistent now! Why do you think I finally started reading some Marvel?

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/01/11 8:25:00 PM
#373:


From: ShadowHalo17 | #370
Clearly the porn he was tracing over only had the top half of the woman in the shot, so he had to improvise with the legs.


That would also explain why her butt appears to be at an impossible angle to her torso

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:26:00 PM
#374:


You guys are joking about this but that's probably what actually happened.

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 8:27:00 PM
#375:


And I know Land is terrible, but he at least brought us this:

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Now I'm perfectly aware that he traces, but he still made the pornstar he traced into Black Widow, so I gotta give him credit there. And that's why I can't bring myself to hate him more than I hate Liefeld.

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ShadowHalo17
07/01/11 8:27:00 PM
#376:


From: KimPilgrim | #374
You guys are joking about this but that's probably what actually happened.


I wasn't joking.

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/01/11 8:33:00 PM
#377:


Someone actually found some porn screencap that is clearly traced by Land into the book.

Anyway, New Mutants #18-31 back in the 1980s was the best. That Bill Sienkiewicz artwork too godlike. Here are a few drawings of the bear, pre-Sienkiewicz (Bob McLeod, from issue #3; Sal Buscema, from issue #17):

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then the actual Sienkiewicz bear:

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:38:00 PM
#378:


That's probably the best 80s artwork I've ever seen.

I probably should read NM v1 before v2....but I won't.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:40:00 PM
#379:


The worst is when Land traces other comics. He does it often.

****, he traces HIMSELF sometimes. Though since that was a trace in the first place...

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/01/11 8:45:00 PM
#380:


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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:47:00 PM
#381:


This guy is EVENTUALLY going to get fired, right?

Or is Marvel afraid that if he's LEGALLY called out on it that they'll get in trouble, too?

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/01/11 8:51:00 PM
#382:


He must come cheap, because he's been on the book for ages. Hell, the next story arc of UXM is drawn by Greg Land. THE FINAL ISSUE OF UNCANNY X-MEN'S ORIGINAL RUN WILL BE DRAWN BY GREG LAND. The new relaunch in November is gonna have him during the art chores.

Thank God for "Wolverine and the X-men" with Jason Aaron and Chris Bachalo

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:56:00 PM
#383:


Chris Bachalo is great.

Is Gillen still going to be writing Uncanny?

If we don't get someone crazy good on writing duties here I don't think I'll be able to suffer through Land.

Also the newish X-Men series that started with the vampires is pretty...not good. Hopefully it doesn't end up being important in crossovers, from the looks of it it won't be.

The Wolverine and Jubille followup mini to the first arc was pretty great, though!

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/01/11 8:57:00 PM
#384:


The arc after the vampire one is pretty good, if for no other reason then "I kick yo face" Spidey and Chris Bachalo. And yes, Kieron Gillen is still there, that's the only thing keeping me interested in that book.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 8:59:00 PM
#385:


Holy **** it's actually happening.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/06/30/frank-miller-brings-holy-terror-to-911-anniversary-i-hope-it-shakes-people-up/

Holy Terror is actually happening.

At leas it's not Batman anymore.

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KimPilgrim
07/01/11 9:31:00 PM
#386:


I think Magik's going to be breaking into my list of top 5 X-Men.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/01/11 10:23:00 PM
#387:


More than that, “Holy Terror” looked like damaged goods from a distance. In 2006, Miller had talked publicly about the project as a Batman epic titled “Holy Terror, Batman!” with the Caped Crusader undertaking a blood quest against the Taliban after a terrorist attack on his beloved Gotham City.

This is my first time hearing about this and HOLY CRAP WHAT

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/02/11 10:11:00 AM
#388:


Yeah, it was suppose to be Batman vs Osama Bin Landen. Everyone was like "lol wtf frank miller that the dumbest thing ever" and it never happened. But apparently it IS happening, sans Batman's name.

But c'mon, look into the eyes of that guy in the red and tell me that isn't Frank Miller's Batman. He'll smack you so hard your grandkids will look like him.

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 11:47:00 AM
#389:


OK top 5 X-Manses as of right now, no order:

Beast
Magik
X-23
Wolverine
Jubilee or Gambit

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/02/11 12:39:00 PM
#390:


My Walter Simonson Thor Omnibus just came in, even though I already have half of the run in the Visonaries. It's that damn good, ya'll.

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Princess Anri
07/02/11 12:47:00 PM
#391:


oh God Sienkiewicz New Mutants so good

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 3:45:00 PM
#392:


New X-Men Morrison Omnibus $600 "no thanks"

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/02/11 3:48:00 PM
#393:


Yeah, that thing has been out-of-print for years. There are 3 New X-men Ultimate Collection volumes that collect the whole run that I own and love though, so its all good.

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 3:50:00 PM
#394:


Vol 3 of that seems to be OOP as well....but not 1 and 2. Odd.

I think I may just grab Whedon's Astonishing.

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/02/11 4:31:00 PM
#395:


Aw crud, it is.

Whedon's Astonishing is pretty good though, decompressed to hell but eh.

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 6:18:00 PM
#396:


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Oh god what just happened

How was this allowed

He only drew for one issue so apparently others agreed

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 6:38:00 PM
#397:


The New Mutants may be my favorite Team.

I eagerly await for them to **** it up in a few more issues.

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 9:42:00 PM
#398:


Dammit Julian, you're even have to turn missing limbs into a competition.

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 10:10:00 PM
#399:


I want good Nightcrawler stories

GET THEM TO MY DESK BY TOMORROW MORNING

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KimPilgrim
07/02/11 11:34:00 PM
#400:


So that **** up on New Mutants I was talking about

It might be happening

Creative change RIGHT when I got up to date

Someone give me idea of the writing talent of Dan Abnett

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