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Zikten
03/04/24 5:56:10 PM
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Yes I know about xmen. That's 1 show. Not enough. Most people don't like the Disney plus mcu shows much. It's all a waste of time kinda. What Disney plus should have done was a completely seperate animated mcu. No connection at all with the movies. Maybe xmen 97 can be the start of that but I doubt it

When I was a kid I always imagined something basically like an animated mcu on tv. Where each hero had their own cartoon. I think Disney plus is suited more for animation than live action shows
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DarkDoc
03/04/24 5:57:15 PM
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To this day I've still only seen 3 of the Marvel, or "MCU" movies. There's so many that it just puts me off. Plus there are too many filler characters.

I just want a movie of Marvel Vs Street Fighter. Don't care if animated or live action.
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MC_BatCommander
03/04/24 5:57:28 PM
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I don't mind the shows being live action. My main issue is they're basically 8 to 10 hour movies split up into episodes and they're not fun to watch.

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lilORANG
03/04/24 5:58:01 PM
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I watch HSM:TM:TS

>_>

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Nok_Su_Kow
03/04/24 5:58:53 PM
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Well the What-if series kinda tried to establish an MCU of sorts, or the first season at least. I still think Werewolf by Night is the best original marvel thing on there.
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rideshort
03/04/24 5:59:08 PM
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Let's get another season of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes

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Dakimakura
03/04/24 6:03:43 PM
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why not both

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Zikten
03/04/24 6:05:07 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
why not both
It takes up resources to do both. There already exist the theatrical movies. I'd rather streaming go all in on cartoons
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Prestoff
03/04/24 6:11:25 PM
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Nok_Su_Kow posted...
Well the What-if series kinda tried to establish an MCU of sorts, or the first season at least. I still think Werewolf by Night is the best original marvel thing on there.

Agreed, it was a breath of fresh air with how good some of the practical effects worked and how stylized it was. I heard it's in color now, which I'm down to see if that changes the experience.

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mehmeh1
03/04/24 6:17:49 PM
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they kiiiiiinda did throughout the 2010s, but it wasn't exactly great. They had a bunch of marvel TV shows that were kinda connected and also tried to bring in stuff from the movies but it was done really sloppily. Heck, it was so sloppy their Avengers show teamed up with two different versions of spiderman without acknowledging it as suck (and since it's meant to be a sequel to EMH, there's also that show's spiderman, who IIRC is supposed to be the one from Spectacular)

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TheSavageDragon
03/04/24 6:21:48 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
Heck, it was so sloppy their Avengers show teamed up with two different versions of spiderman without acknowledging it as suck (and since it's meant to be a sequel to EMH, there's also that show's spiderman, who IIRC is supposed to be the one from Spectacular)

Not only is that show not an actual sequel to EMH, EMH's Spider-Man isn't the character from Spectacular. They were initially voiced by the same person, but there is not a single thing that indicates Spectacular being in the same continuity as EMH.
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mehmeh1
03/04/24 7:40:08 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
Not only is that show not an actual sequel to EMH, EMH's Spider-Man isn't the character from Spectacular. They were initially voiced by the same person, but there is not a single thing that indicates Spectacular being in the same continuity as EMH.
aah, ok thanks for the correction with the Spectacular thing, wasn't sure about that. Though doesn't Assemble have flashbacks to EMH or something? (and if so there's still that EMH Spidey isn't Ultimate or 2017 Spidey)

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Antiyonder
03/04/24 7:43:32 PM
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While not exclusively Plus, try Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur.

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rideshort
03/04/24 7:45:45 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
aah, ok thanks for the correction with the Spectacular thing, wasn't sure about that. Though doesn't Assemble have flashbacks to EMH or something? (and if so there's still that EMH Spidey isn't Ultimate or 2017 Spidey)

No. EMH and Assemble are entirely two different shows. There's no connection to them. Drake Bell voiced both EMH and Ultimate Spider-Man. 2017 Spider-Man is a new continuity.

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buddah86
03/04/24 7:48:56 PM
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I mean, they made What if.....so they kinda did *shrugs*

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creativerealms
03/04/24 7:51:17 PM
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There is also a Spider-Man cartoon coming out, and Marvel Zombies, which will be M rated.

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Zikten
03/04/24 7:52:17 PM
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creativerealms posted...
There is also a Spider-Man cartoon coming out, and Marvel Zombies, which will be M rated.
Is the Spider-Man cartoon like xmen? A continuation of the 90s Spider-Man series?
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creativerealms
03/04/24 7:55:49 PM
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Zikten posted...
Is the Spider-Man cartoon like xmen? A continuation of the 90s Spider-Man series?
No it has a 1960s comic style ascetic.

It's called Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man now. Was originally called Spider-Man Freshman year.

It will ether show up at the end of this year or beginning of 2025.

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NoxObscuras
03/04/24 7:55:56 PM
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rideshort posted...
Let's get another season of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
I'd be 100% on board with that. That show and Spectacular Spider-Man were two shows that ended too soon.

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TheSavageDragon
03/04/24 7:58:40 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
aah, ok thanks for the correction with the Spectacular thing, wasn't sure about that. Though doesn't Assemble have flashbacks to EMH or something? (and if so there's still that EMH Spidey isn't Ultimate or 2017 Spidey)

The creators initially planned for it to be the same Spidey from Spectacular though. But that got axed by Marvel pushing Ultimate Spider-Man so they wanted Drake Bell to be the voice going forward. Despite the EMH Spider-Man not being Ultimate.
Don't recall flashbacks to EMH, but I've only ever watched the first season of Assemble because it was just awful. I do know they don't share continuity as IIRC the creators of Assemble said as much.

Zikten posted...
Is the Spider-Man cartoon like xmen? A continuation of the 90s Spider-Man series?

No, it's a cartoon that should've been out a long while. It is going to feature MCU Spidey's first year as a superhero. It was initially titled Spider-Man: Freshman Year and now Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
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creativerealms
03/04/24 8:01:05 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
The creators initially planned for it to be the same Spidey from Spectacular though. But that got axed by Marvel pushing Ultimate Spider-Man so they wanted Drake Bell to be the voice going forward. Despite the EMH Spider-Man not being Ultimate.
Don't recall flashbacks to EMH, but I've only ever watched the first season of Assemble because it was just awful. I do know they don't share continuity as IIRC the creators of Assemble said as much.

No, it's a cartoon that should've been out a long while. It is going to feature MCU Spidey's first year as a superhero. It was initially titled Spider-Man: Freshman Year and now Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
It's no longer based on the MCU. It diverged from it early on. It's using 60s comic inspired designs and using lots different versions of characters already introduced in the MCU.

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Zikten
03/04/24 8:01:21 PM
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I think EMH got canceled because it was a pre Disney project. After the purchase of Marvel, Disney wanted to reset and have their own cartoon. But the successor show im pretty sure was not as good. I've only ever seen clips of it
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Zikten
03/04/24 8:02:08 PM
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a whole animated 60s mcu would be kinda cool actually
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creativerealms
03/04/24 8:02:42 PM
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Zikten posted...
I think EMH got canceled because it was a pre Disney project. After the purchase of Marvel, Disney wanted to reset and have their own cartoon. But the successor show im pretty sure was not as good. I've only ever seen clips of it
That's it exactly. Not only that but they ruined the second half of season two.

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TheSavageDragon
03/04/24 8:07:14 PM
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creativerealms posted...
It's no longer based on the MCU. It diverged from it early on. It's using 60s comic inspired designs and using lots different versions of characters already introduced in the MCU. That's probably why it took so long because they decided to not make it MCU Spider-Man.

Yeah, I recall reading something along those lines. But I couldn't find an article mentioning it within a few minutes so I didn't add it to my post because I wasn't sure.

creativerealms posted...
That's it exactly. Not only that but they ruined the second half of season two.


IIRC the latter isn't due to Disney, but Marvel. Recall there being a big stink at the time because of Jeph Loeb making the claim that children aren't able to follow/don't care about multi episode storylines. As he was head of Marvel TV, the decision was made to turn the remainder of the season into single episode stories.
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Zikten
03/04/24 8:10:16 PM
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I guess Jeph Loeb never heard of Gargoyles. Season 2 had a very long ongoing storyline if I remember correctly. And kids watched that
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NoxObscuras
03/04/24 8:10:26 PM
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Zikten posted...
I think EMH got canceled because it was a pre Disney project. After the purchase of Marvel, Disney wanted to reset and have their own cartoon. But the successor show im pretty sure was not as good. I've only ever seen clips of it
Yeah, it didn't fit how Disney wanted the characters portrayed, so they canned it. Sucks because it was such a good show.

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Zikten
03/04/24 8:11:05 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Yeah, it didn't fit how Disney wanted the characters portrayed, so they canned it. Sucks because it was such a good show.
And had a killer theme song
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Waxitron_Gazer
03/04/24 8:13:18 PM
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disney shouldn't have killed luke skywalker cuz he was a wee bit tired but here we are so what's the point of fussing over it

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Antiyonder
03/04/24 8:16:16 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Yeah, it didn't fit how Disney wanted the characters portrayed, so they canned it. Sucks because it was such a good show.

Ehh, even if they don't treat storybased shows well, they still made a good amount of them outside the Marvel stuff they had in house.

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur or any of the preceding Disney Channel toons? It's why I'm not certain that Disney is responsible for say Ultimate Spider-Man's quality for example. Marvel can and does slip up even without the Mouse.

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mehmeh1
03/04/24 9:19:24 PM
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Antiyonder posted...
Ehh, even if they don't treat storybased shows well, they still made a good amount of them outside the Marvel stuff they had in house.

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur or any of the preceding Disney Channel toons? It's why I'm not certain that Disney is responsible for say Ultimate Spider-Man's quality for example. Marvel can and does slip up even without the Mouse.
from what I've seen Moon Girl is far more of a DTVA thing than a marvel thing

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Antiyonder
03/04/24 9:28:51 PM
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@mehmeh1
from what I've seen Moon Girl is far more of a DTVA thing than a marvel thing

True, though their DTVA have still been good from Gravity Falls to The Ghost and Molly McGee.

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