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Zikten 02/23/24 9:04:16 PM #1:	Basically the title. They kill off Lois Lane, but Superman doesn't go crazy. Instead we see him go through his grief and try to move on <cite>Zikten posted [p:979009669] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Basically the title. They kill off Lois Lane, but Superman doesn't go crazy. Instead we see him go through his grief and try to move on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Relient_K 02/23/24 9:06:10 PM #2:	What is Superman's lifespan expected to look like? Is he going to grossly outlive her anyway? --- We all ate the biscuits, Fighter. We can all see through time. [ER] <cite>Relient_K posted [p:979009701] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>What is Superman's lifespan expected to look like? Is he going to grossly outlive her anyway? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/23/24 9:06:58 PM #3:	Relient_K posted... What is Superman's lifespan expected to look like? Is he going to grossly outlive her anyway? Yes. Unless he gives her something to make her live longer. I think he's supposed to survive for thousands of years into the future <cite>Zikten posted [p:979009708] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Relient_K posted... </cite><quote>What is Superman's lifespan expected to look like? Is he going to grossly outlive her anyway?</quote>Yes. Unless he gives her something to make her live longer. I think he's supposed to survive for thousands of years into the future</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraxagoraKassan 02/23/24 9:09:43 PM #4:	Good for what party? --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:979009755] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Good for what party? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/23/24 9:10:18 PM #5:	PraxagoraKassan posted... Good for what party? Comic readers or movie audiences or whatever. <cite>Zikten posted [p:979009759] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>PraxagoraKassan posted... </cite><quote>Good for what party?</quote>Comic readers or movie audiences or whatever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 02/23/24 9:10:47 PM #6:	Kingdom Come Superman Joker gasses the Daily Planet and kills everyone except Lois, then he caves her skull in. This Superman actually quits being Superman because he's so horribly disappointed that Magog, a new superhero, kills Joker and isn't convicted due to jury nullification. So like the exact opposite of Injustice. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:979009769] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Kingdom Come SupermanJoker gasses the Daily Planet and kills everyone except Lois, then he caves her skull in. This Superman actually quits being Superman because he's so horribly disappointed that Magog, a new superhero, kills Joker and isn't convicted due to jury nullification. So like the exact opposite of Injustice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_XIV 02/23/24 9:11:21 PM #7:	That's how it would work if Lois died in the "main" DC continuity. Superman would not go evil. You have to do an "alternate reality" to get a Superman who would react that way. Superman is a fundamentally good person. Grief won't turn him into Hitler. --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump <cite>Red_XIV posted [p:979009777] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>That's how it would work if Lois died in the "main" DC continuity. Superman would not go evil. You have to do an "alternate reality" to get a Superman who would react that way. Superman is a fundamentally good person. Grief won't turn him into Hitler. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 02/23/24 9:11:44 PM #8:	pegusus123456 posted... Kingdom Come Superman --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:979009781] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Kingdom Come Superman</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraxagoraKassan 02/23/24 9:14:03 PM #9:	Zikten posted... Comic readers or movie audiences or whatever. Movies succeed on money and name recognition. The idea that you can have a 2 hour event that is based on a comic is silly. Pitch Meeting is better than me but I think it would go like this: New viewer: Lois was real and is portrayed by a famous actress? I am a customer for life --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:979009815] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>Comic readers or movie audiences or whatever.</quote>Movies succeed on money and name recognition. The idea that you can have a 2 hour event that is based on a comic is silly.Pitch Meeting is better than me but I think it would go like this:New viewer: Lois was real and is portrayed by a famous actress? I am a customer for life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/23/24 9:15:17 PM #10:	PraxagoraKassan posted... The idea that you can have a 2 hour event that is based on a comic is silly. A bunch of mcu movies were just that. What are you talking about? Most super hero movies are based on something that happened in the comics <cite>Zikten posted [p:979009833] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>PraxagoraKassan posted... </cite><quote>The idea that you can have a 2 hour event that is based on a comic is silly.</quote>A bunch of mcu movies were just that. What are you talking about? Most super hero movies are based on something that happened in the comics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 02/23/24 9:15:52 PM #11:	pegusus123456 posted... Kingdom Come Superman --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:979009841] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Kingdom Come Superman</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PraxagoraKassan 02/23/24 9:19:43 PM #13:	Zikten posted... A bunch of mcu movies were just that. What are you talking about? Most super hero movies are based on something that happened in the comics How long does it take for a new comic to be released... Like, do you get some time to think about what happens and what will happen next, for one? Can you imagine if Captain America and Iron Man solve their disagreement in in 2 hours --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:979009906] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>A bunch of mcu movies were just that. What are you talking about? Most super hero movies are based on something that happened in the comics</quote>How long does it take for a new comic to be released...Like, do you get some time to think about what happens and what will happen next, for one? Can you imagine if Captain America and Iron Man solve their disagreement in in 2 hours </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/23/24 9:22:20 PM #14:	Comics come out every week. But for a new installment in a particular series, generally there is a new issue once a month. Sometimes they do weekly. One time DC had a series called 52. And it ran 1 year and each issue was a week in the story of a year in the DC universe <cite>Zikten posted [p:979009937] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Comics come out every week. But for a new installment in a particular series, generally there is a new issue once a month. Sometimes they do weekly. One time DC had a series called 52. And it ran 1 year and each issue was a week in the story of a year in the DC universe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraxagoraKassan 02/23/24 9:22:51 PM #15:	But if was just the comic, it would be good because then you have the example where Injustice does happen and the one where it doesn't --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:979009942] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>But if was just the comic, it would be good because then you have the example where Injustice does happen and the one where it doesn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/23/24 9:24:58 PM #16:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This. It wasn't just "Lois died." Superman literally killed Lois, himself, without realizing it. And then killed countless people, on top of it. He went insane specifically because HE was the reason it all happened. Yes, he was poisoned, but it was still by his hand. Injustice is a fantastic story. But it's just that, one story. Yes, they could probably do a story where Lois dies and Superman doesn't overreact. That said, they'd have to find a way to keep it entertaining. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979009973] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This. It wasn't just "Lois died." Superman literally killed Lois, himself, without realizing it. And then killed countless people, on top of it. He went insane specifically because HE was the reason it all happened. Yes, he was poisoned, but it was still by his hand.Injustice is a fantastic story. But it's just that, one story. Yes, they could probably do a story where Lois dies and Superman doesn't overreact. That said, they'd have to find a way to keep it entertaining. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 02/23/24 9:37:03 PM #17:	PraxagoraKassan posted... Movies succeed on money and name recognition. The idea that you can have a 2 hour event that is based on a comic is silly. Pitch Meeting is better than me but I think it would go like this: New viewer: Lois was real and is portrayed by a famous actress? I am a customer for life This is totally 100% true. Yknow, other than the decades of the universally loved, and praised DC Animated Universe. --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:979010177] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>PraxagoraKassan posted... </cite><quote>Movies succeed on money and name recognition. The idea that you can have a 2 hour event that is based on a comic is silly.Pitch Meeting is better than me but I think it would go like this:New viewer: Lois was real and is portrayed by a famous actress? I am a customer for life</quote>This is totally 100% true. Yknow, other than the decades of the universally loved, and praised DC Animated Universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 02/23/24 9:38:19 PM #18:	How many stories can you tell about the same character --- Go eat a pancake <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:979010196] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>How many stories can you tell about the same character </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/23/24 9:38:57 PM #19:	VampireCoyote posted... How many stories can you tell about the same character 80 years worth apparently <cite>Zikten posted [p:979010209] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>VampireCoyote posted... </cite><quote>How many stories can you tell about the same character</quote>80 years worth apparently </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/23/24 9:39:26 PM #20:	pegusus123456 posted... Kingdom Come Superman Christ, Kingdom Come is great. Just about every single frame is an oil painting. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979010216] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Kingdom Come Superman</quote>Christ, Kingdom Come is great.Just about every single frame is an oil painting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 02/23/24 9:40:04 PM #21:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Not even a full person, but a developing mass of cells without conscious awareness? --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 <cite>Torgo posted [p:979010229] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Not even a full person, but a developing mass of cells without conscious awareness? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraxagoraKassan 02/23/24 9:40:52 PM #22:	FolkenRawr posted... This is totally 100% true. Yknow, other than the decades of the universally loved, and praised DC Animated Universe. If you need to ask why something is so horribly wrong, it's because someone lost a fight --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:979010239] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>FolkenRawr posted... </cite><quote>This is totally 100% true. Yknow, other than the decades of the universally loved, and praised DC Animated Universe.</quote>If you need to ask why something is so horribly wrong, it's because someone lost a fight </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antiyonder 02/23/24 9:45:03 PM #23:	StealThisSheen posted... Injustice is a fantastic story. But it's just that, one story. Yes, they could probably do a story where Lois dies and Superman doesn't overreact. That said, they'd have to find a way to keep it entertaining. The premise of the story not bad or even on it's own, just that by the time it was made it's on of many times that a story centered on evil Superman as opposed to Batman going bad. Yeah given his lack of powers he might not be as much of a threat, but that holds true only if a writer committed to Batman being as realistic as possible. Story that plays him up as Bat God? Yeah might as well not bother with the pretense of realism. --- Amalgam Universe resident Born in 82. <cite>Antiyonder posted [p:979010307] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>Injustice is a fantastic story. But it's just that, one story. Yes, they could probably do a story where Lois dies and Superman doesn't overreact. That said, they'd have to find a way to keep it entertaining.</quote>The premise of the story not bad or even on it's own, just that by the time it was made it's on of many times that a story centered on evil Superman as opposed to Batman going bad.Yeah given his lack of powers he might not be as much of a threat, but that holds true only if a writer committed to Batman being as realistic as possible.Story that plays him up as Bat God? Yeah might as well not bother with the pretense of realism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 02/23/24 9:45:56 PM #24:	PraxagoraKassan posted... If you need to ask why something is so horribly wrong, it's because someone lost a fight What Edit: Just noticed your sig. Fair, next --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:979010321] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>PraxagoraKassan posted... </cite><quote>If you need to ask why something is so horribly wrong, it's because someone lost a fight</quote>What Edit: Just noticed your sig. Fair, next </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/23/24 10:33:26 PM #25:	Antiyonder posted... The premise of the story not bad or even on it's own, just that by the time it was made it's on of many times that a story centered on evil Superman as opposed to Batman going bad. Yeah given his lack of powers he might not be as much of a threat, but that holds true only if a writer committed to Batman being as realistic as possible. Story that plays him up as Bat God? Yeah might as well not bother with the pretense of realism. Oh, I don't disagree. I think a good Superman vs. an evil Batman also could be extremely interesting. I do get why they default to Batman being the "hero," though, since he's more relatable than Superman. Yes, billionaire playboy isn't TRULY relatable, but "guy with no powers" vs. "guy with literally all the powers" is. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979011012] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Antiyonder posted... </cite><quote>The premise of the story not bad or even on it's own, just that by the time it was made it's on of many times that a story centered on evil Superman as opposed to Batman going bad.Yeah given his lack of powers he might not be as much of a threat, but that holds true only if a writer committed to Batman being as realistic as possible.Story that plays him up as Bat God? Yeah might as well not bother with the pretense of realism.</quote>Oh, I don't disagree. I think a good Superman vs. an evil Batman also could be extremely interesting. I do get why they default to Batman being the "hero," though, since he's more relatable than Superman. Yes, billionaire playboy isn't TRULY relatable, but "guy with no powers" vs. "guy with literally all the powers" is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Crissaegrim- 02/23/24 10:34:52 PM #26:	PraxagoraKassan posted... Good for what party? Republicans. --- Brains for dinner, brains for lunch, brains for breakfast Brains for brunch, brains at every single meal, why can't we have some guts? <cite>-Crissaegrim- posted [p:979011032] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>PraxagoraKassan posted... </cite><quote>Good for what party?</quote>Republicans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 02/23/24 10:36:08 PM #27:	Zikten posted... Basically the title. They kill off Lois Lane, but Superman doesn't go crazy. Instead we see him go through his grief and try to move on You mean Kingdom Come? --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:979011053] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>Basically the title. They kill off Lois Lane, but Superman doesn't go crazy. Instead we see him go through his grief and try to move on</quote>You mean Kingdom Come? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/23/24 10:48:52 PM #28:	StealThisSheen posted... He went insane specifically because HE was the reason it all happened. No he didn't go insane because he was the reason it all happened. Joker notwithstanding, Superman immediately just doubles down on saving as many lives as he can. This works out fine for a while until the US Government decides to bomb some terrorist base knowing that a few dozen innocent civilians were going to die in the process. Superman intercepts the bombs and destroys them. No one dies. This pisses off the US Government who decide in a galaxy brain move that they need to coerce Superman by threatening Martha & John Kent inside a Mirror dimension made by Mirror Master. That is what sets him off. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979011234] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>He went insane specifically because HE was the reason it all happened.</quote>No he didn't go insane because he was the reason it all happened. Joker notwithstanding, Superman immediately just doubles down on saving as many lives as he can. This works out fine for a while until the US Government decides to bomb some terrorist base knowing that a few dozen innocent civilians were going to die in the process. Superman intercepts the bombs and destroys them. No one dies. This pisses off the US Government who decide in a galaxy brain move that they need to coerce Superman by threatening Martha & John Kent inside a Mirror dimension made by Mirror Master. That is what sets him off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 02/23/24 10:49:54 PM #29:	Kingdom Come is a mustread --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:979011249] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Kingdom Come is a mustread </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/23/24 10:52:04 PM #30:	Kingdom Come, is, by the way, the definitive answer to "why doesn't anyone kill the joker" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979011271] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Kingdom Come, is, by the way, the definitive answer to "why doesn't anyone kill the joker" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 02/23/24 10:52:56 PM #31:	That would be great! --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:979011282] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>That would be great! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 02/23/24 10:57:14 PM #32:	Bruce Timm's DCAU covered that a few times. Yeah he'd sink into the typical authoritarian ruler trope but the stories always ended in redemption. Nothing groundbreaking but they worked well for 22 minutes of storytelling per episode. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:979011338] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Bruce Timm's DCAU covered that a few times. Yeah he'd sink into the typical authoritarian ruler trope but the stories always ended in redemption. Nothing groundbreaking but they worked well for 22 minutes of storytelling per episode. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 02/23/24 10:57:47 PM #33:	Let's be honest. Someone needs to kill Joker. And if Batman won't do it, he needs to step aside, as there are plenty of people, villains included, that would be more than happy to. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:979011349] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Let's be honest. Someone needs to kill Joker. And if Batman won't do it, he needs to step aside, as there are plenty of people, villains included, that would be more than happy to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 02/23/24 10:58:56 PM #34:	nocturnal_traveler posted... Let's be honest. Someone needs to kill Joker. And if Batman won't do it, he needs to step aside, as there are plenty of people, villains included, that would be more than happy to. Quick, someone call Damian --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:979011368] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>Let's be honest. Someone needs to kill Joker. And if Batman won't do it, he needs to step aside, as there are plenty of people, villains included, that would be more than happy to.</quote>Quick, someone call Damian </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/23/24 11:04:06 PM #35:	Tyranthraxus posted... No he didn't go insane because he was the reason it all happened. Joker notwithstanding, Superman immediately just doubles down on saving as many lives as he can. This works out fine for a while until the US Government decides to bomb some terrorist base knowing that a few dozen innocent civilians were going to die in the process. Superman intercepts the bombs and destroys them. No one dies. This pisses off the US Government who decide in a galaxy brain move that they need to coerce Superman by threatening Martha & John Kent inside a Mirror dimension made by Mirror Master. That is what sets him off. ...Superman literally establishes himself as the one and only authority on Earth within 5 years of killing Joker. He didn't suddenly change because of the US Government. He had been "I'm the only one who can decide what is best for Earth" before that. The "going insane" is in reference to him deciding he is the one who must decide what is best for everybody. And then there's the whole "Superman kills Green Arrow for being a threat to Martha & John Kent despite Green Arrow not being an actual threat to them and only accidentally hurting them BECAUSE of Superman" bit. The whole Mirror Master thing is in response to Superman trying to become the dictator of Earth, and Mirror Master pretty specifically adheres to not harming them beyond the initial capture. It's a desperation tactic in response to what Superman is doing. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979011445] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>No he didn't go insane because he was the reason it all happened. Joker notwithstanding, Superman immediately just doubles down on saving as many lives as he can. This works out fine for a while until the US Government decides to bomb some terrorist base knowing that a few dozen innocent civilians were going to die in the process. Superman intercepts the bombs and destroys them. No one dies. This pisses off the US Government who decide in a galaxy brain move that they need to coerce Superman by threatening Martha & John Kent inside a Mirror dimension made by Mirror Master. That is what sets him off.</quote>...Superman literally establishes himself as the one and only authority on Earth within 5 years of killing Joker. He didn't suddenly change because of the US Government. He had been "I'm the only one who can decide what is best for Earth" before that. The "going insane" is in reference to him deciding he is the one who must decide what is best for everybody.And then there's the whole "Superman kills Green Arrow for being a threat to Martha & John Kent despite Green Arrow not being an actual threat to them and only accidentally hurting them BECAUSE of Superman" bit.The whole Mirror Master thing is in response to Superman trying to become the dictator of Earth, and Mirror Master pretty specifically adheres to not harming them beyond the initial capture. It's a desperation tactic in response to what Superman is doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 02/24/24 12:10:47 AM #37:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Isn't the entire point literally that it didn't, though, since even John Kent is like "dude, what." Like, admittedly, maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't a large part of that scene John Kent being like "Dude, what, don't do that" --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979012263] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Isn't the entire point literally that it didn't, though, since even John Kent is like "dude, what." Like, admittedly, maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't a large part of that scene John Kent being like "Dude, what, don't do that" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/24/24 12:19:14 AM #38:	After reminding myself of the events via wiki, the Kents' entire argument is that Superman is in pain and reacting irrationally, and that the rest need to kinda adapt around that. Which doesn't refute the point that Superman was acting entirely out of line. They basically say Superman needs help, which Superman... Blatantly refuses, so... --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979012358] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>After reminding myself of the events via wiki, the Kents' entire argument is that Superman is in pain and reacting irrationally, and that the rest need to kinda adapt around that. Which doesn't refute the point that Superman was acting entirely out of line. They basically say Superman needs help, which Superman... Blatantly refuses, so... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 02/24/24 12:23:54 AM #41:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Literally even the Kents admit he is reacting irrationally. Yes, they partially refute Batman's/the government's methods of being too aggressive, but they ultimately come to the same conclusion: Clark is in the wrong and needs help. But Clark refuses to accept said help. The entire point is that Clark's irrational reactions lead to all of the events in the first place. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979012405] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Literally even the Kents admit he is reacting irrationally. Yes, they partially refute Batman's/the government's methods of being too aggressive, but they ultimately come to the same conclusion: Clark is in the wrong and needs help. But Clark refuses to accept said help.The entire point is that Clark's irrational reactions lead to all of the events in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaihedgie 02/24/24 12:27:54 AM #43:	Kingdom Come, Emperor Joker and Ending Battle have all done this, all showing why and how Injustice would never happen and they were all written years before that game came out. For bonus points, The Sound of One Hand Clapping shows that Joker would never even get the opportunity to pull off this plan. Super hearing and super speed. Then Supes proceeds to deconstruct and dismantle his entire schtick just as a big middle finger to him --- "Oh hey look, it's Vegeta, the son of Trunks." PSN and Nintendo Network: Kaihedgie <cite>Kaihedgie posted [p:979012455] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Kingdom Come, Emperor Joker and Ending Battle have all done this, all showing why and how Injustice would never happen and they were all written years before that game came out. For bonus points, The Sound of One Hand Clapping shows that Joker would never even get the opportunity to pull off this plan. Super hearing and super speed. Then Supes proceeds to deconstruct and dismantle his entire schtick just as a big middle finger to him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/24/24 12:48:45 AM #44:	Kaihedgie posted... Kingdom Come, Emperor Joker and Ending Battle have all done this, all showing why and how Injustice would never happen and they were all written years before that game came out. For bonus points, The Sound of One Hand Clapping shows that Joker would never even get the opportunity to pull off this plan. Super hearing and super speed. Then Supes proceeds to deconstruct and dismantle his entire schtick just as a big middle finger to him I think the point is that every universe isn't supposed to be taken as the same. Injustice, in particular, was portrayed as a universe where such a thing could happen, regardless of what sense it made in relation to other Superman tellings. It had its own internal logic, and, to its credit, it operated on that logic the whole way through, regardless of how non-sensical people may have felt the start was. Like, it's boring if Superman is so OP that such a thing can literally never happen. The entire point of Injustice was to be a "what if" scenario to make an interesting storyline out of an otherwise OP, fairly boring character. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979012682] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Kaihedgie posted... </cite><quote>Kingdom Come, Emperor Joker and Ending Battle have all done this, all showing why and how Injustice would never happen and they were all written years before that game came out. For bonus points, The Sound of One Hand Clapping shows that Joker would never even get the opportunity to pull off this plan. Super hearing and super speed. Then Supes proceeds to deconstruct and dismantle his entire schtick just as a big middle finger to him</quote>I think the point is that every universe isn't supposed to be taken as the same. Injustice, in particular, was portrayed as a universe where such a thing could happen, regardless of what sense it made in relation to other Superman tellings. It had its own internal logic, and, to its credit, it operated on that logic the whole way through, regardless of how non-sensical people may have felt the start was. Like, it's boring if Superman is so OP that such a thing can literally never happen. The entire point of Injustice was to be a "what if" scenario to make an interesting storyline out of an otherwise OP, fairly boring character. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 02/24/24 1:36:03 AM #45:	All Star Superman is all about supes dealing with grief, but instead of Lois dying we learn in the first issue that Superman himself was poisoned and has 1 year left to live, the rest of the story is all about him dealing with that knowledge and getting his life in order --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:979013107] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>All Star Superman is all about supes dealing with grief, but instead of Lois dying we learn in the first issue that Superman himself was poisoned and has 1 year left to live, the rest of the story is all about him dealing with that knowledge and getting his life in order </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxoto 02/24/24 1:45:52 AM #46:	she didn't die, but in the latest season of Superman and Lois, they're dealing with Lois having breast cancer, and they deal with the kind of grief and powerlessness someone can feel knowing the one they love is suffering, and might not be able to make it. --- Don't you agree, Zach? https://streamable.com/enq4r7 <cite>boxoto posted [p:979013181] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>she didn't die, but in the latest season of Superman and Lois, they're dealing with Lois having breast cancer, and they deal with the kind of grief and powerlessness someone can feel knowing the one they love is suffering, and might not be able to make it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraxagoraKassan 02/24/24 1:48:13 AM #47:	A superman story where you captivate someone looks like this A superman story that needs to appeal to new audiences doesn't exist --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:979013207] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>A superman story where you captivate someone looks like thisA superman story that needs to appeal to new audiences doesn't exist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaihedgie 02/24/24 2:16:35 AM #48:	StealThisSheen posted... I think the point is that every universe isn't supposed to be taken as the same. Injustice, in particular, was portrayed as a universe where such a thing could happen, regardless of what sense it made in relation to other Superman tellings. It had its own internal logic, and, to its credit, it operated on that logic the whole way through, regardless of how non-sensical people may have felt the start was. Like, it's boring if Superman is so OP that such a thing can literally never happen. The entire point of Injustice was to be a "what if" scenario to make an interesting storyline out of an otherwise OP, fairly boring character. Except it's not interesting at all. It's contrived. Superman's stories shine best in overcoming adversity when it's more than just his power that's being tested. Focusing on Superman simply being strong and writing off so many, if not all of his stories solely because of his powers just broadcasts to everyone you don't know anything about who the character is or what his stories are about. You just see "strong = boring" and that's it. --- "Oh hey look, it's Vegeta, the son of Trunks." PSN and Nintendo Network: Kaihedgie <cite>Kaihedgie posted [p:979013430] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>I think the point is that every universe isn't supposed to be taken as the same. Injustice, in particular, was portrayed as a universe where such a thing could happen, regardless of what sense it made in relation to other Superman tellings. It had its own internal logic, and, to its credit, it operated on that logic the whole way through, regardless of how non-sensical people may have felt the start was. Like, it's boring if Superman is so OP that such a thing can literally never happen. The entire point of Injustice was to be a "what if" scenario to make an interesting storyline out of an otherwise OP, fairly boring character.</quote>Except it's not interesting at all. It's contrived. Superman's stories shine best in overcoming adversity when it's more than just his power that's being tested. Focusing on Superman simply being strong and writing off so many, if not all of his stories solely because of his powers just broadcasts to everyone you don't know anything about who the character is or what his stories are about. You just see "strong = boring" and that's it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/24/24 2:45:05 AM #49:	Kaihedgie posted... Except it's not interesting at all. I mean, plenty of people found it interesting enough that it got two games and several comics series, so clearly it had an audience. Literally all I'm arguing for is its right to exist, as it was, and many found it enjoyable. Dismissing it as "This could never happen" seems very short-sighted. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979013633] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Kaihedgie posted... </cite><quote>Except it's not interesting at all.</quote>I mean, plenty of people found it interesting enough that it got two games and several comics series, so clearly it had an audience. Literally all I'm arguing for is its right to exist, as it was, and many found it enjoyable. Dismissing it as "This could never happen" seems very short-sighted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthDemented 02/24/24 2:46:18 AM #50:	Would her death ~~still cause the nuke?~~ That was part of supes "one bad day" --- Paula Wood. My love, my life. 1980-2021 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198210788964/#sort=order <cite>DarthDemented posted [p:979013643] in Would a su... [t:80704461]...</cite> <quote>Would her death still cause the nuke? That was part of supes "one bad day" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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