Current Events > THIS IS INSANITY (Gaza aftermath)

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https://imgur.com/y1IwLr6

Aftermath of a Gaza neighborhood after 200 Israeli missile strikes.
source: BBC

This won't achieve anything but radicalize hundreds of thousands of Palestinians against Israel.

Bad guys fighting bad guys with plenty of innocents in the middle.

https://youtu.be/Wyn7PmwXJxY?t=324

source video if anyone's interested

Kinny100 posted...

This won't achieve anything but radicalize hundreds of thousands of Palestinians against Israel.

I feel like we are at the stage where either Israel or Palestine is going to be annihilated by the other so this is kind of a moot point

Crazy how Isreal is committing genocide and other countries don't care

Every before/after pictured article I've seen for the past couple of years hardly ever show the same view... How hard can that be even?

The destruction is insane though. Middle East is going through alot. War,quakes,floods.

Axiom posted...

I feel like we are at the stage where either Israel or Palestine is going to be annihilated by the other so this is kind of a moot point

Maybe Gaza will be destroyed and the rest of Palestine will become part of Jordan again.

uwnim posted...

Maybe Gaza will be destroyed and the rest of Palestine will become part of Jordan again.

That would mean war between Israel and Jordan.

Kinny100 posted...

This won't achieve anything but radicalize hundreds of thousands of Palestinians against Israel.

Palestinians (and a lot of Muslims) already hate Israel, so this doesn't really change anything but increase tensions.

BurmesePenguin posted...

That would mean war between Israel and Jordan.

Not if it happens as the result of an agreement between Israel and Jordan.>_>
The three ideas that have been floated around over the years is everything becomes truly part of Israel, Israel and Palestine become separate again, Egypt gets Gaza(wont happen, they dont want to deal with that mess) and Jordan gets West Bank.

Anyone can float an idea. Is any serious amount of people proposing this and would the palestinians agree to it? In such a deal Israel would undoubtedly carve out Jerusalem for themselves, which I doubt would be acceptable.

Axiom posted...

I feel like we are at the stage where either Israel or Palestine is going to be annihilated by the other so this is kind of a moot point

It will be Palestine. Israel is far better armed, as well as having very powerful allies.

Pikachuchupika posted...

Palestinians (and a lot of Muslims) already hate Israel, so this doesn't really change anything but increase tensions.

They might hate Israel but the great majority of them don't hate Israel enough to start suicide bombing.

Axiom posted...

I feel like we are at the stage where either Israel or Palestine is going to be annihilated by the other so this is kind of a moot point

Palestine isn't going to destroy Israel. They can't even begin to dream of it.

Kinny100 posted...

https://imgur.com/y1IwLr6

Aftermath of a Gaza neighborhood after 200 Israeli missile strikes.
source: BBC

This won't achieve anything but radicalize hundreds of thousands of Palestinians against Israel.

I mean, this isn't going to change anything on the ground. Palestinians are already pretty well radicalised against Israel. Israel is going to respond with power, while hiding behind the age-old excuse of Hamas using schools and hospitals as shields. It's a shitty situation with no easy resolution.

Kinny100 posted...

This won't achieve anything but radicalize hundreds of thousands of Palestinians against Israel.

Not to worry, there won't be any Palestinians at the rate they're going

BurmesePenguin posted...

Anyone can float an idea. Is any serious amount of people proposing this and would the palestinians agree to it? In such a deal Israel would undoubtedly carve out Jerusalem for themselves, which I doubt would be acceptable.

They carved out Jerusalem decades ago and I really doubt Israel will ever voluntarily return East Jerusalem.

Blue_Inigo posted...

Crazy how Isreal is committing genocide and other countries don't care

i mean china is still genociding muslims the world didnt do shit

CADE_FOSTER posted...

i mean china is still genociding muslims the world didnt do shit

gonna give a hot take on this.

china is NOT committing genocide on its muslim uyghur population. they're not mass murdering them, just mass incarceration in 21st century concentration camps (not death camps).

not saying china is right, just that it's not genocide.

uwnim posted...

Maybe Gaza will be destroyed and the rest of Palestine will become part of Jordan again.

I highly doubt Jordan wants them. No one does. Egypt closed up their own border and is no doubt being guilted/pressured into taking in the 2000 refugees a day they agreed to.

Palestinians are just a convenient tool for the Muslim world to condemn and attack Israel, but none of them have ever particularly given a shit about improving their actual human rights, just send them weapons and get some propaganda pics of their suffering in return.
It's unfortunate for them, but just like I kept saying it was Russians' responsibility to overthrow their evil government, same for thing applies... When your leaders are all genocidal maniacs, other countries don't want to deal w/ you.

Here's what happened the last time Jordan welcomed a large group of Palestinians to their country:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

CADE_FOSTER posted...

i mean china is still genociding muslims the world didnt do shit

True, but at least the world isn't sending money to China to help fund it like they are to Israel

Blue_Inigo posted...

Crazy how Isreal is committing genocide and other countries don't care

They just got hit with a rather effective surprise attack that explicitly targeted civilians. The sympathy goggles are on right now. This is basically the image of Israel having Pearl Harbor, except that most of the bombs fell on houses instead of battleships.

Its going to be a mess.

Kinny100 posted...

gonna give a hot take on this.

china is NOT committing genocide on its muslim uyghur population. they're not mass murdering them, just mass incarceration in 21st century concentration camps (not death camps).

not saying china is right, just that it's not genocide.

there are also credible reports of forced mass sterilization.
still not genocide imo.

1 million people used to live here, now its a ghost town.

Kinny100 posted...

gonna give a hot take on this.

china is NOT committing genocide on its muslim uyghur population. they're not mass murdering them, just mass incarceration in 21st century concentration camps (not death camps).

not saying china is right, just that it's not genocide.

So, let's make this clear.... We're talking about prior to this recent conflict...

China has been rounding up the Uyghurs into literal prison camps. Forcibly reeducating/brainwashing them and trying to convert them from Islam. Allegedly even sterilizing them so they can't reproduce.

Israel (and Egypt) has barricaded Palestinian borders and attacked their infrastructure, but they've been able to elect their own terrorist government, run their own schools and operations, etc...

China is NOT an example of genocide and concentration camps or "open air prisons".
Israel IS an example of genocide and concentration camps or "open air prison".

Just want to make the blatant double standards, hypocrisy, and bias as clear as possible...

CADE_FOSTER posted...

i mean china is still genociding muslims the world didnt do shit

That's the only time the world pretends to care about Muslims.

Kinny100 posted...

gonna give a hot take on this.

china is NOT committing genocide on its muslim uyghur population. they're not mass murdering them, just mass incarceration in 21st century concentration camps (not death camps).

not saying china is right, just that it's not genocide.

Genocide is not just mass murder, it's a concentrated eradication of a population or culture. Native American boarding schools were genocide. Forced sterilization of Uyghurs and suppression of their cultural expressions are genocide.

Blue_Inigo posted...

Crazy how Isreal is committing genocide and other countries don't care

Do they usually?

And now he's taken a swerve into denial of the Uyghur genocide. How lovely.

i'm not denying anything. i just don't agree with your definition of genocide. it cheapens it.

it's like when they added the arts to STEM and called it STEAM. it's moronic.

Kinny100 posted...

gonna give a hot take on this.

china is NOT committing genocide on its muslim uyghur population. they're not mass murdering them, just mass incarceration in 21st century concentration camps (not death camps).

not saying china is right, just that it's not genocide.

You realise that genocide isn't merely killing people, right? Stripping away their culture, rights, and freedoms is genocide. Just like Catholicism did to the First Nations people of Canada and what they continue to do today.

So their answer to having over a thousand innocent people killed was to kill thousands of innocent people?

How exactly are they any different than the terrorists?

Kinny100 posted...

i'm not denying anything. i just don't agree with your definition of genocide. it cheapens it.

it's like when they added the arts to STEM and called it STEAM. it's moronic.

I mean what do you call forced steralization?

PballDepot posted...

True, but at least the world isn't sending money to China to help fund it like they are to Israel

We kinda are. Disney filmed Mulan in one of the locations where genocide took place and thanked the government for letting them film there. Not to mention that the vast majority of what we purchase comes from China.

Kinny100 posted...

This won't achieve anything but radicalize hundreds of thousands of Palestinians against Israel.

You're saying the population that elected Hamas to power won't like Israel anymore?

You call it insanity.
I say that it is just the beginning.

there are some Ukrainian towns that are now referred to in the past tense on wikipedia