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workplaces? i mean you thought that you should be a supervisor or promoted at least a couple more times than you were, but they just would not do it for you

No that would be immediately noticeable.

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

No that would be immediately noticeable.

what would be immediately noticable?

If you don't notice you're being promoted? You're not being promoted. Unless some manager came by and slapped you on the back and said you've been promoted to the basement and hands you bug spray.

I interviewed for a few open GM positions in the past. Each time, it was shortly after we got a new DM who opted to hire an existing GM wishing to transfer. I feel like and have proven I can do it. I just feel I've gotten unlucky with timing.

no but i also don't ask often. i've seen it happen to others, though, and they usually have a certain timeline before they just go to a different place that will give them a better opportunity.

Ive been told by someone that I was promoted and then two days later that person was let go and they said they didnt know anything about it

Yeah. I trained 2 new supervisors who both ended up quitting but I guess wasn't good enough to get the job myself.

No
Unfortunately, I get promoted often

LeoRavus posted...

Yeah. I trained 2 new supervisors who both ended up quitting but I guess wasn't good enough to get the job myself.

You trained people for a job you wanted but weren't good enough to get? What kinda godamn company do you work for?

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

You trained people for a job you wanted but weren't good enough to get? What kinda godamn company do you work for?

Not only that, I did the job between supervisors and whenever they were out/quit/whatever. Their excuse was I didn't have a work history in management.

GuerrillaSoldier posted...

no but i also don't ask often. i've seen it happen to others, though, and they usually have a certain timeline before they just go to a different place that will give them a better opportunity.

really?

I want to be in the shit, doing the shit.
Not telling someone else what shit to do.

Questionmarktarius posted...

I want to be in the shit, doing the shit.
Not telling someone else what shit to do.

you've never been a supervisor?

DoubleOSnake posted...

you've never been a supervisor?

I don't have the capacity for that.

I got a raise before tho it didnt really make me happier

Ive honestly never wanted a promotion at any of the jobs Ive had. Too much stress for not enough compensation. Sorry, but my life revolves around more than work.

If I want a promotion that Im not getting and feel Im qualified for, I just move elsewhere for it.

I have no interest in management anymore. I did in my late 20s early 30s. Had a couple advisory roles. But at this point Id rather just let someone else take the heat.

The complete opposite actually. Ive been asked several times and turned it down every time.

Ive seen the stress that people above me go through and I want none of it.

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

You trained people for a job you wanted but weren't good enough to get? What kinda godamn company do you work for?

Had a lieutenant that left over that. We didnr have a captain for the longest time so he did thag job too. Got passed over for it and he had to train the one they did hire

We use the word promotion with quotations where I work. A promotion generally gets you a special title, more work and nothing else. They tell us to think of it as a "stepping stone" in your career with the company. Sure you do more work for the same pay, but now in the future you can be considered for other upward positions. Strangely enough the only people I see getting the "upward positions" are either friends/cronies or relatives of the people promoting them.

Back before I worked for the company the nepotism was so bad that the head office sent a guy in to do employee audits on all these new people hired off the street into management positions who just happened to be friends and relatives of other members of management in the company.

He would take them into an office and ask them one question: What do you do here?

If they didn't have a good enough answer they were told to immediately clean out their office and they were no longer employed there.

This happened back in the 90's but the old guys I work with still talk about that day of crying people funneling out into the parking lot carrying boxes one after another.

Nth posted...

We use the word promotion with quotations where I work. A promotion generally gets you a special title, more work and nothing else. They tell us to think of it as a "stepping stone" in your career with the company. Sure you do more work for the same pay, but now in the future you can be considered for other upward positions. Strangely enough the only people I see getting the "upward positions" are either friends/cronies or relatives of the people promoting them.

Back before I worked for the company the nepotism was so bad that the head office sent a guy in to do employee audits on all these new people hired off the street into management positions who just happened to be friends and relatives of other members of management in the company.

He would take them into an office and ask them one question: What do you do here?

If they didn't have a good enough answer they were told to immediately clean out their office and they were no longer employed there.

This happened back in the 90's but the old guys I work with still talk about that day of crying people funneling out into the parking lot carrying boxes one after another.

Is this a large company? Not retail is it? Good that they cleaned house, a lot of higher ups probably didn't want them to

DoubleOSnake posted...

Is this a large company? Not retail is it? Good that they cleaned house, a lot of higher ups probably didn't want them to

Large international company, not retail though.

I posted but forgot to answer the question.

Yes. Everytime I try ti promote I have a unfortunate incident that causes me to get overlooked and someone who's subpar gets promoted instead.

last bumps

Yep.

I worked at a Penn Station where I actually was performing shift lead duties and managing the staff better than the actual leads and managers for about four or five years, but they didn't offer it to me until I got fed up and told the store manager "this is my last day". Meanwhile I saw so many people who didn't deserve the position receive it just because they were better friends with the manager -- it was a restaurant run on nepotism. She had outside hires come in and immediately get bumped up to manager, meanwhile I and other hard workers were completely ignored.

TMOG posted...

Yep.

I worked at a Penn Station where I actually was performing shift lead duties and managing the staff better than the actual leads and managers for about four or five years, but they didn't offer it to me until I got fed up and told the store manager "this is my last day". Meanwhile I saw so many people who didn't deserve the position receive it just because they were better friends with the manager -- it was a restaurant run on nepotism. She had outside hires come in and immediately get bumped up to manager, meanwhile I and other hard workers were completely ignored.

you don't work there any more? i think i'd kinda hate working in food places, fast food. I guess retail is a little better

There are three main reasons people who think they deserve a promotion don't get one:

1) Poor timing. There is simply another candidate who stands out a bit more. Like in the case above where the dude applied for GM at the same time a current GM wanted to transfer. It's not that you're not suitable for the promotion, it's just there happens to be another obvious choice

2) Favoritism. Some one who is liked more/is buddies with current management/saved the CEOs life/etc etc gets a spot they don't really deserve.

3) You do good work but aren't actually suited for the position you're going for. I've met a lot of people who think "I'm a hard worker!" means they should get promoted. There are several skills that managers need that not all "good workers" have. On that note, there are several people in management positions who don't have those skills, too...

I guess there's a potential 4th reason, that you are qualified but don't display it, or the people making the decisions don't see it. This ties in with being good in interviews. Being capable is one thing, but being able to convince some one you are is entirely different.

MisterPengy posted...

There are three main reasons people who think they deserve a promotion don't get one:

1) Poor timing. There is simply another candidate who stands out a bit more. Like in the case above where the dude applied for GM at the same time a current GM wanted to transfer. It's not that you're not suitable for the promotion, it's just there happens to be another obvious choice

2) Favoritism. Some one who is liked more/is buddies with current management/saved the CEOs life/etc etc gets a spot they don't really deserve.

3) You do good work but aren't actually suited for the position you're going for. I've met a lot of people who think "I'm a hard worker!" means they should get promoted. There are several skills that managers need that not all "good workers" have. On that note, there are several people in management positions who don't have those skills, too...

I guess there's a potential 4th reason, that you are qualified but don't display it, or the people making the decisions don't see it. This ties in with being good in interviews. Being capable is one thing, but being able to convince some one you are is entirely different.

I'll add you are too good at your job and they don't wanna lose you in that spot