Current Events > if the Metal Gear series had ended with MGS2, would you have been satisfied?

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g0ldie 12/30/22 1:54:02 PM #1:	like, how Kojima was saying he wanted it to be his final one (correct me if I'm wrong), and with how it ended --- https://streamable.com/3ajdi3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:970506402] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>like, how Kojima was saying he wanted it to be his final one (correct me if I'm wrong), and with how it ended</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meestermj 12/30/22 1:54:45 PM #2:	No, Snake Eater is the peak of the series IMO. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia <cite>meestermj posted [p:970506410] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>No, Snake Eater is the peak of the series IMO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ANort175 12/30/22 1:55:12 PM #3:	It should have ended after MGS3 --- Are we the baddies? <cite>ANort175 posted [p:970506418] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>It should have ended after MGS3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 12/30/22 1:57:26 PM #5:	on one hand, I think it could have worked, but on the other, the sequel baiting after credits call would have left people demanding more. --- https://streamable.com/3ajdi3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:970506462] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>on one hand, I think it could have worked, but on the other, the sequel baiting after credits call would have left people demanding more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TendoDRM 12/30/22 1:57:52 PM #6:	I mean knowing the latter games we would miss out on, of course not. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:970506470] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>I mean knowing the latter games we would miss out on, of course not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 12/30/22 1:58:53 PM #7:	ANort175 posted... It should have ended after MGS3 nah. narrative wise MGS3, a prequel, is not the place to end the series. MGS4 should be the end. it was even designed as the end of Solid Snake's story. also MGSV shouldn't be the end for tge same reason with MGS3. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:970506491] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>ANort175 posted... </cite><quote>It should have ended after MGS3</quote>nah. narrative wise MGS3, a prequel, is not the place to end the series. MGS4 should be the end. it was even designed as the end of Solid Snake's story.also MGSV shouldn't be the end for tge same reason with MGS3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
buddhamonster 12/30/22 2:04:16 PM #8:	Absolutely not. MGS3 was the best in the franchise. Four was very fun as well. Hell , I even loved five and Peacewalker despite all their faults. If two was truly supposed to be the end, then Im thankful he stuck through it all the way up to five, and we got several more quality games out of the franchise. --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! <cite>buddhamonster posted [p:970506591] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely not. MGS3 was the best in the franchise. Four was very fun as well. Hell , I even loved five and Peacewalker despite all their faults. If two was truly supposed to be the end, then Im thankful he stuck through it all the way up to five, and we got several more quality games out of the franchise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/30/22 2:07:45 PM #9:	I just mean, in this scenario, had you not known about the games after MGS2, do you feel like its conclusion was satisfactory enough to put the series to rest --- https://streamable.com/3ajdi3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:970506666] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>I just mean, in this scenario, had you not known about the games after MGS2, do you feel like its conclusion was satisfactory enough to put the series to rest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 12/30/22 2:09:11 PM #10:	no, because MGS2 did have sequel bait with the AIs, la li lu le lo, patriots, etc. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:970506696] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>no, because MGS2 did have sequel bait with the AIs, la li lu le lo, patriots, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/30/22 2:15:10 PM #11:	good points. I wonder if Kojima had a more conclusive ending in mind, and Konami told him they wanted a sequel during development, and that's why we had some open threads, or if he was fine ending the game how it ended, leaving things a little "messy", which is more realistic. --- https://streamable.com/3ajdi3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:970506804] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>good points. I wonder if Kojima had a more conclusive ending in mind, and Konami told him they wanted a sequel during development, and that's why we had some open threads, or if he was fine ending the game how it ended, leaving things a little "messy", which is more realistic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiderman23J 12/30/22 2:17:02 PM #12:	shoulda ended with kojimas true vision of 5 --- buss on life <cite>Spiderman23J posted [p:970506848] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>shoulda ended with kojimas true vision of 5 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meestermj 12/30/22 2:22:00 PM #13:	Also, pretty sure Kojima didn't want to make any sequels at all. I remember him saying in an interview that he said after the end of each game (even number 1) that he wasn't making a sequel. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia <cite>meestermj posted [p:970506936] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Also, pretty sure Kojima didn't want to make any sequels at all.I remember him saying in an interview that he said after the end of each game (even number 1) that he wasn't making a sequel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 12/30/22 2:25:39 PM #14:	Spiderman23J posted... shoulda ended with kojimas true vision of 5 yes, and release date 2025 with $1B budget. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:970507002] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Spiderman23J posted... </cite><quote>shoulda ended with kojimas true vision of 5</quote>yes, and release date 2025 with $1B budget.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 12/30/22 2:27:20 PM #15:	Nah. It ended on a huge sequel hook. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970507023] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Nah. It ended on a huge sequel hook. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nasty_Nitro 12/30/22 2:39:14 PM #17:	I pretend it did because the story gets so fucking moronic after MGS2 --- OG status Triple OG Status pipedown yung bol Im Neo Im Leo Im Desiax Clark <cite>Nasty_Nitro posted [p:970507215] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>I pretend it did because the story gets so fucking moronic after MGS2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 12/30/22 2:41:41 PM #18:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Bruh ~~Liquid Ocelot literally ran off with Ray and Snake dove into the water after him.~~ That's sequel bait lol --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970507259] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Bruh Liquid Ocelot literally ran off with Ray and Snake dove into the water after him. That's sequel bait lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/30/22 2:49:05 PM #19:	Um no --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:970507396] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Um no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zombified_Toast 12/30/22 2:53:00 PM #21:	Ricemills posted... yes, and release date 2025 with $1B budget. TBH i would've been fine waiting. Though it would also mean no Death Stranding, so take that for what you will. --- stant447 - So suicide is illegal. But smoking is not? I'm allowed to passively kill myself, but not actively? Transmutant - Just as long as you die I'm happy. <cite>Zombified_Toast posted [p:970507476] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>yes, and release date 2025 with $1B budget.</quote>TBH i would've been fine waiting.Though it would also mean no Death Stranding, so take that for what you will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InTheEyesOfFire 12/30/22 2:54:04 PM #22:	meestermj posted... No, Snake Eater is the peak of the series IMO. --- "Oh man would you just shut up already, how come all you sword guys have to talk about how cool your swords are?" <cite>InTheEyesOfFire posted [p:970507498] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>meestermj posted... </cite><quote>No, Snake Eater is the peak of the series IMO.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nasty_Nitro 12/30/22 3:21:58 PM #24:	Zombified_Toast posted... TBH i would've been fine waiting. Though it would also mean no Death Stranding, so take that for what you will. Yeah I would have been okay waiting and it come out on PS5 a REAL sequel not a prequel not years ahead into the future. UGH --- OG status Triple OG Status pipedown yung bol Im Neo Im Leo Im Desiax Clark <cite>Nasty_Nitro posted [p:970508065] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Zombified_Toast posted... </cite><quote>TBH i would've been fine waiting.Though it would also mean no Death Stranding, so take that for what you will.</quote>Yeah I would have been okay waiting and it come out on PS5 a REAL sequel not a prequel not years ahead into the future. UGH </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/30/22 3:30:51 PM #25:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] truu. I guess it could have been one of those open-ended things, where there's always "another battlefield" (implied, in this case). --- https://streamable.com/3ajdi3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:970508250] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> truu. I guess it could have been one of those open-ended things, where there's always "another battlefield" (implied, in this case). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 12/30/22 3:55:25 PM #26:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I feel like something comes of that. You know, given all of MGS4. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970508739] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I feel like something comes of that. You know, given all of MGS4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Krave_ 12/30/22 6:57:56 PM #28:	Never played any of them. Story seems interesting, but I just can't stand stealth games. --- Am I seducing or being seduced? <cite>_Krave_ posted [p:970512453] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Never played any of them.Story seems interesting, but I just can't stand stealth games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 12/30/22 7:06:58 PM #29:	Would fans accept mgs2 being the final game if it came out after mgs3? As in mgs3 comes out in 2001, mgs2 out in 2004 <cite>PowerOats posted [p:970512581] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Would fans accept mgs2 being the final game if it came out after mgs3? As in mgs3 comes out in 2001, mgs2 out in 2004</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aressar 12/30/22 7:13:49 PM #30:	At the end of MGS2, ~~Liquid Ocelot is still on the loose with an agenda of his own.~~ That's objectively both an unresolved issue as well as sequel bait. If MGS was the final game at the time, that would've been closure enough. Sure, ~~Ocelot is still around, but his agenda doesn't necessarily include world domination and/or revenge on Snake.~~ --- One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls. <cite>Aressar posted [p:970512699] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>At the end of MGS2, Liquid Ocelot is still on the loose with an agenda of his own. That's objectively both an unresolved issue as well as sequel bait.If MGS was the final game at the time, that would've been closure enough. Sure, Ocelot is still around, but his agenda doesn't necessarily include world domination and/or revenge on Snake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 12/30/22 7:22:40 PM #31:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Obviously not Snake swimming after him. There was no way he was going to catch up, lmao. But the idea that Ocelot got away with Ray and Snake was desperately trying to stop him. Which did go somewhere...Hence, MGS4. You can't end a game, which is called "Metal Gear," with one of the Metal Gears from its namesake getting stolen by a terrorist, and then just say some profound shit about memes and genetic code before ending the series forever. It definitely needed a sequel. MGS3 was an unexpected detour in between, but obviously it's amazing too. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970512823] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Obviously not Snake swimming after him. There was no way he was going to catch up, lmao. But the idea that Ocelot got away with Ray and Snake was desperately trying to stop him. Which did go somewhere...Hence, MGS4. You can't end a game, which is called "Metal Gear," with one of the Metal Gears from its namesake getting stolen by a terrorist, and then just say some profound shit about memes and genetic code before ending the series forever. It definitely needed a sequel. MGS3 was an unexpected detour in between, but obviously it's amazing too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 12/30/22 7:25:24 PM #32:	_Krave_ posted... Never played any of them. Story seems interesting, but I just can't stand stealth games. Play it on easy mode and blast your way through. Plenty of rations, plenty of ammo. You only occasionally have to hide and let your alert run down to progress to the next room. The further into the series you get, the more lenient it is with stealth requirements, too. Worst case, at least watch "MGS Movie" videos on Youtube that have all the cutscenes with some clips of gameplay spliced in. It's a series everybody should experience. If not for the insanely creative and flexible gameplay, then for the memorable characters (and their memes) --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970512868] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>_Krave_ posted... </cite><quote>Never played any of them.Story seems interesting, but I just can't stand stealth games.</quote>Play it on easy mode and blast your way through. Plenty of rations, plenty of ammo. You only occasionally have to hide and let your alert run down to progress to the next room. The further into the series you get, the more lenient it is with stealth requirements, too. Worst case, at least watch "MGS Movie" videos on Youtube that have all the cutscenes with some clips of gameplay spliced in. It's a series everybody should experience. If not for the insanely creative and flexible gameplay, then for the memorable characters (and their memes) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/30/22 7:27:46 PM #33:	it's unfortunate that it became outdated, and you can't find it anywhere outside of the PS3, because the digital MGS database that came out around when MGS4 did was a great resource. --- https://streamable.com/3ajdi3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:970512913] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>it's unfortunate that it became outdated, and you can't find it anywhere outside of the PS3, because the digital MGS database that came out around when MGS4 did was a great resource. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 12/31/22 12:10:03 AM #35:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Strictly speaking, yes, it's possible. But it would be absolute trash to do so. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970518334] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Strictly speaking, yes, it's possible. But it would be absolute trash to do so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 12/31/22 12:17:38 AM #37:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] For anybody who cares about the story and characters, and for people who think stories should have payoff or closure...it would have been awful. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970518453] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> For anybody who cares about the story and characters, and for people who think stories should have payoff or closure...it would have been awful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Magician 12/31/22 12:21:35 AM #38:	No because then we wouldn't have the greatest game of all time MGS4 <cite>Magician posted [p:970518506] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>No because then we wouldn't have the greatest game of all time MGS4</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 12/31/22 12:33:22 AM #40:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Maybe for its leg of the story, but not for the series as a whole. If there had never been closure for the open questions of MGS2, I would have been incredibly disappointed. Incredibly disappointed. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970518706] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Maybe for its leg of the story, but not for the series as a whole. If there had never been closure for the open questions of MGS2, I would have been incredibly disappointed. Incredibly disappointed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 12/31/22 12:46:46 AM #42:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You're welcome to your opinion, but I disagree. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:970518940] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You're welcome to your opinion, but I disagree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 12/31/22 12:49:07 AM #43:	MGS2 is bullshit cuz I bought the game on release day thinking I was gonna play as Snake like in the tanker demo. Then I'm playing the game and they make me play as Raiden's bitch ass. That's not what I signed up for. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:970518976] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>MGS2 is bullshit cuz I bought the game on release day thinking I was gonna play as Snake like in the tanker demo. Then I'm playing the game and they make me play as Raiden's bitch ass. That's not what I signed up for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 12/31/22 1:05:51 AM #44:	Gobstoppers12 posted... You're welcome to your opinion, but I disagree. Liquid ghost is cooler than self hypnosis. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:970519234] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>You're welcome to your opinion, but I disagree.</quote>Liquid ghost is cooler than self hypnosis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
comicfire 12/31/22 1:08:46 AM #45:	Without knowing what the future could hold, 2 would have made for a strong, poignant ending With knowledge of what comes after, missing out on 3 would be tragic --- But you can call me Erika~ <cite>comicfire posted [p:970519269] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Without knowing what the future could hold, 2 would have made for a strong, poignant endingWith knowledge of what comes after, missing out on 3 would be tragic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nasty_Nitro 12/31/22 2:02:23 AM #46:	MGS3 is when the series became all about gameplay because the story went backwards for no reason. Imagine if we didnt do a whole mission with ~~Sigint, Paramedic and Major Zero~~ and we didnt know that the super spooky and mysterious Patriots ~~where a bunch of goofy ass nerds~~ These guys are the fucking Illuminati your telling me Big Boss couldnt kill these guys?! MGS4s story and explanations are Game of Thrones level disappointing IMO. --- OG status Triple OG Status pipedown yung bol Im Neo Im Leo Im Desiax Clark <cite>Nasty_Nitro posted [p:970519878] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>MGS3 is when the series became all about gameplay because the story went backwards for no reason.Imagine if we didnt do a whole mission with Sigint, Paramedic and Major Zero and we didnt know that the super spooky and mysterious Patriots where a bunch of goofy ass nerds These guys are the fucking Illuminati your telling me Big Boss couldnt kill these guys?! MGS4s story and explanations are Game of Thrones level disappointing IMO. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GZAgenius 12/31/22 2:03:29 AM #47:	MGS3 was the best one --- https://vsmusick.wordpress.com/ https://www.last.fm/user/doesntexist420 <cite>GZAgenius posted [p:970519896] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>MGS3 was the best one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Magician 12/31/22 2:05:25 AM #48:	Nasty_Nitro posted... MGS3 is when the series became all about gameplay because the story went backwards for no reason. Imagine if we didnt do a whole mission with ~~Sigint, Paramedic and Major Zero~~ and we didnt know that the super spooky and mysterious Patriots ~~where a bunch of goofy ass nerds~~ These guys are the fucking Illuminati your telling me Big Boss couldnt kill these guys?! MGS4s story and explanations are Game of Thrones level disappointing IMO. In a way, nerds do run the world these days. Look at Musk, Bezos, Gates. <cite>Magician posted [p:970519913] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Nasty_Nitro posted... </cite><quote>MGS3 is when the series became all about gameplay because the story went backwards for no reason.Imagine if we didnt do a whole mission with Sigint, Paramedic and Major Zero and we didnt know that the super spooky and mysterious Patriots where a bunch of goofy ass nerds These guys are the fucking Illuminati your telling me Big Boss couldnt kill these guys?! MGS4s story and explanations are Game of Thrones level disappointing IMO.</quote>In a way, nerds do run the world these days. Look at Musk, Bezos, Gates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nasty_Nitro 12/31/22 2:15:20 AM #49:	Magician posted... In a way, nerds do run the world these days. Musk cant even run twitter! The Patriots controlled the entire world Bezos might be building an army of Metal Gear Rays tho. But Bezos isnt a dweeb hes in shape and gets hoes and runs a huge company and is super creepy and deadly serious. In fact Bezos or anybody menacing or creepy would have been better than the Virtuous Mission team. That reveal really dampened the ending. Also Meryl & Johnny ugh made me want a refund. --- OG status Triple OG Status pipedown yung bol Im Neo Im Leo Im Desiax Clark <cite>Nasty_Nitro posted [p:970520019] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>Magician posted... </cite><quote>In a way, nerds do run the world these days. </quote>Musk cant even run twitter! The Patriots controlled the entire world Bezos might be building an army of Metal Gear Rays tho. But Bezos isnt a dweeb hes in shape and gets hoes and runs a huge company and is super creepy and deadly serious. In fact Bezos or anybody menacing or creepy would have been better than the Virtuous Mission team. That reveal really dampened the ending. Also Meryl & Johnny ugh made me want a refund. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 12/31/22 2:16:42 AM #50:	it's cool and all but i'd want more snake --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:970520032] in if the Met... [t:80295042]...</cite> <quote>it's cool and all but i'd want more snake</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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