Current Events > Toyota to charge $8 month to use push to start key fobs

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CruelBuffalo
12/14/21 9:41:06 AM
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https://www.engadget.com/toyota-key-fob-remote-start-function-requires-subscription-111606852.html
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s0nicfan
12/14/21 9:45:00 AM
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Not that it's much better, but apparently this only applies to the smartphone app and not the key fob.
Toyota lets you start vehicles like the RAV 4 PHEV remotely in two ways. One is over WiFi/LTE using its Remote Connect apps that cost $8 per month or $80 per year. The other is by using the key fob, which requires that you be relatively close to the vehicle.

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KiwiTerraRizing
12/14/21 9:46:23 AM
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This is the future of capitalism, subscriptions for everything.

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CruelBuffalo
12/14/21 9:47:10 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Not that it's much better, but apparently this only applies to the smartphone app and not the key fob.

Read the very next sentence
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LightHawKnight
12/14/21 9:48:00 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Not that it's much better, but apparently this only applies to the smartphone app and not the key fob.

I assume the app is free, while the fob costs money right?

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s0nicfan
12/14/21 9:48:50 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Read the very next sentence

Ah, yeah. Then it's just as bad as it sounds.

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Jagr_68
12/14/21 9:50:09 AM
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Good thing their system and interface sucks so it's not a loss. Fucked up car companies are pulling this shit.

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SparkClark
12/14/21 9:58:14 AM
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Thats so fucked.

Could you just sever the internet connection somehow?

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The_Dan_Haren
12/14/21 9:59:05 AM
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Thats $1000 over 10 years. Imagine if they just increased the price of the car by $1000. No one would bat an eye.
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gunplagirl
12/14/21 10:01:50 AM
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F companies charging more for things they included for free for years. Especially when the functionality is built in to the sustem. It's like on disc dlc.

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Jagr_68
12/14/21 10:36:52 AM
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SparkClark posted...
Thats so fucked.

Could you just sever the internet connection somehow?

If I understand all this key stuff correctly, internet is required or else you wouldn't need remote access and subscription anyway.

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Duncanwii
12/14/21 10:38:51 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
This is the future of capitalism, subscriptions for everything.

You're acting like it hasnt always been like that.

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Krojen
12/14/21 10:39:43 AM
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And BMW is giving you a free trial of your heated seats. Will charge you a subscription for them after.

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Krojen
12/14/21 10:41:28 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Good thing their system and interface sucks so it's not a loss. Fucked up car companies are pulling this shit.
True. Legacy automakers aren't tech companies so their interfaces feel like mid 00s flip phones.

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LightHawKnight
12/14/21 10:54:18 AM
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Krojen posted...
And BMW is giving you a free trial of your heated seats. Will charge you a subscription for them after.

Hrmm, when can we 3d print cars?

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s0nicfan
12/14/21 10:56:04 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Hrmm, when can we 3d print cars?

Honestly, if companies push any harder with these kinds of software restrictions it's only a matter of time until software piracy makes its way to cars with the same ease it has made its way to consoles. Imagine being able to pop a thumb drive into one of your car's ports and have it "unlock" every paywalled feature instantly.

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DrizztLink
12/14/21 11:00:01 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Hrmm, when can we 3d print cars?
https://youtu.be/Fb7N-JtQWGI?t=63

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__starsnostars
12/14/21 11:02:07 AM
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The_Dan_Haren posted...
Thats $1000 over 10 years. Imagine if they just increased the price of the car by $1000. No one would bat an eye.

I'm sure the Toyota exces are pushing for both those things.

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