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Lairen
06/23/21 6:49:01 PM
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Axiom Verge, Shadow Complex, Hollow Knight and Bloodstained off the top of my head but theres many more.

Im sure all these will stomp Dread and they were all half the price or less.

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Turbam
06/23/21 6:49:58 PM
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Yeah, but none of those have a hot girl

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Jabodie
06/23/21 6:50:02 PM
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That's okay

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Darmik
06/23/21 6:51:09 PM
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Brand recognition still matters either way. But yeah I'm interested to see how it compares.

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EnigmaticGale
06/23/21 6:51:18 PM
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Axiom Verge has the worst sound design of any game Ive ever played

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catboy
06/23/21 6:51:36 PM
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that doesnt mean Dread wont scratch the itch

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Lairen
06/23/21 6:58:22 PM
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EnigmaticGale posted...
Axiom Verge has the worst sound design of any game Ive ever played

If thats its biggest flaw. Im not arguing but i dont really remember any of these games sound.

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Smackems
06/23/21 6:59:31 PM
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Hard disagree. Zero Mission blows all that shit out the water

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YoungMutual
06/23/21 7:01:30 PM
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Hollow Knight is up there with Super Metroid as cream of the crop, the others are really good but nah, Super Metroid is Super Metroid, and I didn't beat it for the first time until last year so...

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Maninstagnate
06/23/21 7:01:53 PM
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Axiom Verge LoL. I get he did it all by himself but he really should of hired a composer and a character artist because they are terrible quality even for indie standards.

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Smashingpmkns
06/23/21 7:03:46 PM
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I liked Hollow Knight but the theme and characters didn't do anything for me at all. Metroid's lore and setting is infinitely cooler than bug shit. Shadow Complex is fun but the gameplay is too slow for my tastes. Bloodstained is cool but SotN is still way better.
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E_S_M_Z
06/23/21 7:05:54 PM
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Meh, I really couldn't get into any of them. The tone of Hollow Knight was cool but just didn't keep me invested.

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neverwin
06/23/21 7:11:04 PM
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Hollow Knight was a struggle to play, it just never felt fun to me. Wasn't really any flaws, the game was just fine/okay at best to me.

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g0ldie
06/23/21 7:11:30 PM
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Turbam posted...
Yeah, but none of those have a hot girl
um, Bloodstained



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Guide
06/23/21 7:13:52 PM
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I was thinking this. Like, all the metroidvania's I've played were cheap, and still really good. Dread's gonna have to drop to at least 20$ before I consider it.

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Jabodie
06/23/21 7:15:40 PM
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Guide posted...
I was thinking this. Like, all the metroidvania's I've played were cheap, and still really good. Dread's gonna have to drop to at least 20$ before I consider it.
It probably never will. And I don't just mean retail. Cartridge only will probably be above $30 in perpetuity.

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catboy
06/23/21 7:15:49 PM
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Guide posted...
Dread's gonna have to drop to at least 20$ before I consider it.
I think $40 would be a fair price, since that's the price of 3DS games.

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Turbam
06/23/21 7:18:34 PM
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g0ldie posted...
um, Bloodstained

No way Jose, she ain't hot at all.

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g0ldie
06/23/21 7:20:38 PM
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you haven't made me as angry as when you cancelled Midna Mondays, but this is close

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Smackems
06/23/21 7:23:54 PM
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I agree with turbam. She basic af

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Guide
06/23/21 7:24:23 PM
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catboy posted...
I think $40 would be a fair price, since that's the price of 3DS games.

That a fair way of looking at it. I pay more attention to the genre, and unfortunately for Metroid, the genre quality maintains even when the pricing is cheap.

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WalkingLobsters
06/23/21 7:25:37 PM
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bloodstained

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Lairen
06/23/21 8:29:16 PM
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Super metroid and Sotn are probably the absolute easiest of all of them. Its perfectly fine considering theyre like the originals but replaying SM recently made me realize i just was young and bad at it when it first came out. Its very very easy and i just beat Sotn yesterday and its even easier.

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El Mexicano Texano
06/23/21 8:40:18 PM
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None of those indie games are better than any of the Prime games

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Trumpo
06/23/21 8:41:25 PM
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Ori is pretty good
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FuriousFox
06/23/21 8:44:54 PM
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I tried Shadow Complex but couldn't get into it. I can't remember why.

I also beat Axiom Verge, which came close to scratching that Metroid itch, but the enemies were WAY too aggressive IMO and health was hard to come by outside of save points. Also many of the weapons and other collectables felt pointless. Really good music, but the gameplay was just "okay" in my opinion.

I can't speak to the other two, but so far I haven't found any Metroidvanias that really satisfy my thirst for more Metroid.

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Trumble
06/23/21 8:50:18 PM
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FuriousFox posted...
but the enemies were WAY too aggressive IMO and health was hard to come by outside of save points

Honestly, I felt Zero Mission had these flaws more so than Axiom Verge did. The saving grace was your max health in ZM was absurdly high (aside from in the very, very early part of the game), so it usually didn't matter.

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PC-Builder_Pony
06/23/21 8:51:44 PM
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Only because there hasnt been a 2D Metroid game in a decade.

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Lairen
06/23/21 8:51:50 PM
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Shadow Complex was way better than metroids imo.

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Lairen
06/23/21 8:52:39 PM
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PC-Builder_Pony posted...
Only because there hasnt been a 2D Metroid game in a decade.

3 years......

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Wetterdew
06/23/21 8:52:47 PM
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I still don't think hollow knight or the others are anywhere close to as good as the GBA metroid games. They still haven't been topped yet

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Lairen
06/23/21 8:56:16 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
I still don't think hollow knight or the others are anywhere close to as good as the GBA metroid games. They still haven't been topped yet

Fusion!? Lol
Zeros good but yeah like the DS metriodvanias beat them. Hell AoS beats it.

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Lairen
06/23/21 8:57:09 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Metroid Prime, I rest my case, the verdict is guilty and the sentence is topic closure

The FPS?

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Garioshi
06/23/21 8:57:13 PM
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Fusion will never be topped

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Lairen
06/23/21 8:57:29 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Fusion will never be topped

Lol

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EnigmaticGale
06/23/21 9:13:35 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
The 3D Metroidvania

Curse of Darkness?

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MagnusDJL
06/23/21 9:21:27 PM
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As far as metroidvanias go, my favorite is Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia.
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LordFarquad1312
06/23/21 9:25:56 PM
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Funny how the best Metroidvanias are neither Metroid nor Vania nowadays.

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Denizen_Of_Dark
06/24/21 2:58:50 AM
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MagnusDJL posted...
As far as metroidvanias go, my favorite is Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia.
a tru man o culture

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Xethuminra
06/24/21 3:04:26 AM
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The only one that really comes close is SotN, in terms of a true Metroid game that actually pushed the boundaries for its day.

Really curious to see how Dread lives up to its legacy
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darkmaian23
06/24/21 3:50:54 AM
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I can't believe all of the Axiom Verge hate in this topic. The graphics were great and the music was even better. I only have two real complaints: the grapple beam in the game controls like ass and some parts of the game were balls hard. I can give it a pass for those though. Almost every Metroidvania out there has some kind of awkward mechanic, and difficulty is relative. For all I know, nobody else struggled nearly as hard as I did against some of those bosses.
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Xethuminra
06/24/21 4:01:36 AM
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If a Salt & Sanctuary 2 can implement *all* of Souls features, and put stress on its native hardware, then I will accept it. IMO graphics arent enough. Well.,.. At least not the way most devs are trying to pull it off these days. 3D Dot Game Heroes comes to mind. Dont they end up less & less like what theyre trying to emulate?

Most of the really good 2D games Ive played dont actually have great graphics lol.

Minecraft pushes the boundaries with pixels. It looks worse than Doom lol, and it works.

It can still be done. Inside was good, leaning on the strictly 2D makeup of Limbo.

2.5 rarely impressed me. You could do much more impressive things with pixels..............
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spikethedevil
06/24/21 6:29:17 AM
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Lairen posted...
3 years......

This @PC-Builder_Pony

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