Current Events > I don't understand people that carry a gun without one in the chamber

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Why even carry one lol
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murrica
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They're into reverse Russian Roulette.

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When I was watching an episode of Live PD, the cop implied that was illegal.
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sondast posted...

When I was watching an episode of Live PD, the cop implied that was illegal.

If youre illegally possessing a firearm they can add extra charges in certain states for that as well as for each round
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going condition 3 > no gun at all

The fuck you need one in the chamber for.

You a cop or a psycho bud?

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RedWhiteBlue posted...

Imagine having to ask an armed robber if you could have just a moment to load your gun.

This guy thinks not having a round chambered means your gun isnt loaded.


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A gun itself is already a deterrent. The other person doesn't know that you're out of ammo. You could pull it out and take off the safety and scare them into running away
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Feline_Heart posted...

A gun itself is already a deterrent. The other person doesn't know that you're out of ammo. You could pull it out and take off the safety and scare them into running away

Or they can return fire and then you are screwed because they called your bluff and you hear click instead of bang when you pull the trigger.

The entire point of carrying a gun is self defense lol. Give yourself no chance of surviving if you need to use it.

You shouldnt be carrying if you dont carry it hot. It means you dont have the training or discipline lol
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CanuckCowboy posted...

The fuck you need one in the chamber for.

You a cop or a psycho bud?

it's darkprince, it's actually both
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darkprince45 posted...

The entire point of carrying a gun is self defense lol. Give yourself no chance of surviving if you need to use it.

You shouldnt be carrying if you dont carry it hot. It means you dont have the training or discipline lol

So you keep the fuckin safety off too?

TerrifyingRei posted...

it's darkprince, it's actually both

Oh yeah. Good point.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

darkprince45 posted...

The entire point of carrying a gun is self defense lol. Give yourself no chance of surviving if you need to use it.

You shouldnt be carrying if you dont carry it hot. It means you dont have the training or discipline lol

So you keep the fuckin safety off too?

TerrifyingRei posted...

it's darkprince, it's actually both

Oh yeah. Good point.

Theres no safety on most firearms lol. I dont own any firearm with a safety. The only time I ever used one was in the army 8 years ago. It literally makes no sense to have the fun firearm loaded lol.
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Feline_Heart posted...

A gun itself is already a deterrent. The other person doesn't know that you're out of ammo. You could pull it out and take off the safety and scare them into running away

This is just wrong tbh.

Never ever pull a gun you dont fully intend to use.

CarrieChan posted...

Or they can return fire and then you are screwed because they called your bluff and you hear click instead of bang when you pull the trigger.

It takes a split second to chamber a round. If thats the difference maker youre probly already fucked.

only a paranoid nut job would sacrifice the safety aspect for the exceptionally unlikely scenario thats gonna make a difference.

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For your safety aspect point. Its clear you dont know much about firearms

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-safer-to-carry-a-concealed-handgun-unloaded-no-round-

chambered-Does-it-really-make-a-difference-in-response-time-if-you-need-to-protect-yourself
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I prefer to "Mexican Carry" myself.

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CarrieChan posted...

Or they can return fire and then you are screwed because they called your bluff and you hear click instead of bang when you pull the trigger.

Or, much more likely, they already approached you holding a gun and your reaching for your gun is what causes them to fire and therefore it doesnt really matter if the gun is loaded, has one in the chamber or is a toy.

CanuckCowboy posted...

It takes a split second to chamber a round. If thats the difference maker youre probly already f***ed.

only a paranoid nut job would sacrifice the safety aspect for the exceptionally unlikely scenario thats gonna make a difference.

Another split section and another necessary action where something can go wrong during a stressful situation. You could be in a situation where your other hand is unavailable or simply forget that you don't have one in the chamber. Keeping things simple is a good thing.

lol, it's cute how many people think there is a "safety" on most handguns.
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His viewpoint comes from someone uneducated and untrained in regards to firearm. It is what it is
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People who conceal carry loaded firearms with the safety off have fantasies of killing someone and getting away with it
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This is why I carry a live grenade instead

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One could argue more cases have happened where a firearm went off accidently from carrying with a loaded chamber than someone failing to load a round in the chamber in a life/death situation.

Both arguments for carrying hot and not carrying hot make sense but its up to the gun owner, the sistuations they might find themselves in.
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This is a topic from someone who claims to be a cop and people wonder why cops have such a bad reputation now

Axiom posted...

This is a topic from someone who claims to be a cop and people wonder why cops have such a bad reputation now

They have a bad reputation for using proper training and tactics? Lol
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I really hope you arent a cop cause you have bad opinions on carrying. If you are a cop then your firearms instructor failed you cause this arguement is the first thing they talk about in a basic CHL class.
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FuneralFroth posted...

I really hope you arent a cop cause you have bad opinions on carrying. If you are a cop then your firearms instructor failed you cause this arguement is the first thing they talk about in a basic CHL class.

Youre in bizzaro world lol. I trained with one of the top instructors in the country and did 8 years of military training aside from police training. Literally nobody has that opinion and its a very small percentage of people that actually carry in that manner.
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Its literally considered for people that arent trained enough in their firearm and are just afraid of a negligent discharge
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MabusIncarnate posted...

This is why I carry a live grenade instead

Pin out and lever depressed I assume. Cant risk taking the time to pull the pin.

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darkprince45 posted...

Its literally considered for people that arent trained enough in their firearm and are just afraid of a negligent discharge

FUCKIN MURICA SO HARD!

no seriously though i love americans but this mind set that a tiny vocal
portion have is batshit insane.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

This is why I carry a live grenade instead

Pin out and lever depressed I assume. Cant risk taking the time to pull the pin.

With a block of plastique studded in ball bearings on a dead man's trigger for contingencies. Mutually Assured Destruction is the only true answer.
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BillyKidd posted...

lol, it's cute how many people think there is a "safety" on most handguns.

No i comoletely get that and thats tje best reason not to have a round chambered dummy.

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Tbh I never really thought much of it but after reading into it more I think I'll start carrying mine chambered
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https://www.usacarry.com/concealed-carry-empty-chamber/

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2015/09/09/empty-chamber-carry/

https://aliengearholsters.com/blog/one-in-the-chamber/

I mean there are countless I gave up after three. Articles and studies that doing claiming unloaded is stupid and dangerous. Its a sign of someone thats not properly trained on a firearm and shouldnt be carrying. This forum just blows my mind with the ridiculous beliefs
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CarrieChan posted...

Another split section and another necessary action where something can go wrong during a stressful situation. You could be in a situation where your other hand is unavailable or simply forget that you don't have one in the chamber. Keeping things simple is a good thing.

Theres a .000006% chance that you get ito a situation where you need a gun and a .000000003% chance where a lack of basic safety would make a difference.

Yeah fuck basic safety over those odds.

Jesus.

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This forum is known for being pretty left and anti gun. They only believe police should have guns, but are always shitting on them when police use said guns.

Gakk86 posted...

With a block of plastique studded in ball bearings on a dead man's trigger for contingencies. Mutually Assured Destruction is the only true answer.

Fuck. Youre right.

brb modifying a vest that explodes if ky heart misses a beat.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

CarrieChan posted...

Another split section and another necessary action where something can go wrong during a stressful situation. You could be in a situation where your other hand is unavailable or simply forget that you don't have one in the chamber. Keeping things simple is a good thing.

Theres a .000006% chance that you get ito a situation where you need a gun and a .000000003% chance where a lack of basic safety would make a difference.

Yeah fuck basic safety over those odds.

Jesus.

I dont know why you keep safety lol. Its a holstered gun
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Theres a .000006% chance that you get ito a situation where you need a gun and a .000000003% chance where a lack of basic safety would make a difference.

Yeah fuck basic safety over those odds.

Jesus.

I don't use the safeties on my guns. My safety is training and proper handling of firearms. Keeping stuff simple and avoiding malfunctions caused by short stroking or forgetting to chamber a round is an advantage of carrying with a round in the chamber.

What do you carry Tc?
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CarrieChan posted...

I don't use the safeties on my guns. My safety is training and proper handling of firearms. Keeping stuff simple and avoiding malfunctions caused by short stroking or forgetting to chamber a round is an advantage of carrying with a round in the chamber.

Proper handling of firearms includes hsing the safety. So no you dont. Cmon

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CarrieChan posted...

This forum is known for being pretty left and anti gun. They only believe police should have guns, but are always shitting on them when police use said guns.

Leftist politics and anti gun sentiment arent mutually exclusive things bud
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FuneralFroth posted...

What do you carry Tc?

Glock 19 at work. XDS for back up/off duty/plain clothes/ at home Beretta pico for pocket carry like running to Walmart or some shit
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Anyone who thinks you should carry without being loaded and ready is a fucking idiot that doesnt know the first thing about carrying for protection.

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Gakk86 posted...

With a block of plastique studded in ball bearings on a dead man's trigger for contingencies. Mutually Assured Destruction is the only true answer.

erm... lever depressed is already a dead mans trigger, though.

CanuckCowboy posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Its literally considered for people that arent trained enough in their firearm and are just afraid of a negligent discharge

FUCKIN MURICA SO HARD!

no seriously though i love americans but this mind set that a tiny vocal
portion have is batshit insane.

The Americans are right on this one, Canuck. You should carry with a round in the chamber. If you need it but one of your hands is occupied/wounded, you might as well be carrying 1.5 pound block of polymer and steel in your holster. You wont be able to rack the slide to use it.

And no, most modern striker-fired pistols have no manual safeties. If youre not comfortable enough carrying with a round in the chamber with no manual safety, you shouldnt be carrying and you need more training.
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GregShmedley posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

Proper handling of firearms includes hsing the safety. So no you dont. Cmon

Are you trolling? Because you're 100% incorrect.

It must be a Canadian thing but here in the states, you will rarely come across anyone involved with firearms (cop, military, instructor) that would advocate carrying with safety on and even less likely to come across one advocating carrying without one in the chamber.

Im Canadian, hes just ignorant.
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