Current Events > Democrats: "We will sit out or vote Trump if you nominate Warren"

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John_Galt 09/26/19 1:21:18 PM #1:	https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html Discuss --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:927975996] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html Discuss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 09/26/19 1:23:26 PM #2:	*oh no* --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:927976095] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>oh no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 09/26/19 1:24:38 PM #4:	Wall Street seems like the more relevant part here than Democrats. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:927976152] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Wall Street seems like the more relevant part here than Democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/26/19 1:24:43 PM #5:	shockthemonkey posted... Oh no, what will Democrats do if they dont suck Wall Streets dick? Lose Although Hillary lost even with Wall Street so I guess that's kind of a moot point. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927976154] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Oh no, what will Democrats do if they dont suck Wall Streets dick?</quote> Lose Although Hillary lost even with Wall Street so I guess that's kind of a moot point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/26/19 1:24:53 PM #6:	Antifar posted... Wall Street seems like the more relevant part here than Democrats. --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:927976163] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Wall Street seems like the more relevant part here than Democrats.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 09/26/19 1:25:28 PM #7:	Fuck em. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:927976192] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Fuck em.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/26/19 1:25:47 PM #8:	so go ahead and back trump. I hope the democratic nominee is someone that wouldn't take dirty wall street money anyway. fuck them and I hope the worst on all of them --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927976200] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>so go ahead and back trump. I hope the democratic nominee is someone that wouldn't take dirty wall street money anyway. fuck them and I hope the worst on all of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/26/19 1:29:14 PM #9:	I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:927976348] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/26/19 1:30:20 PM #10:	ThyCorndog posted... so go ahead and back trump. I hope the democratic nominee is someone that wouldn't take dirty wall street money anyway. fuck them and I hope the worst on all of them Basically Bernie and to a lesser extent Warren. Although Warren has more money and bigger donors than you'd think https://www.wsj.com/articles/elizabeth-warrens-money-game-11546559182 --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927976397] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>so go ahead and back trump. I hope the democratic nominee is someone that wouldn't take dirty wall street money anyway. fuck them and I hope the worst on all of them</quote> Basically Bernie and to a lesser extent Warren. Although Warren has more money and bigger donors than you'd think https://www.wsj.com/articles/elizabeth-warrens-money-game-11546559182 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 09/26/19 1:30:29 PM #11:	Antifar posted... Wall Street seems like the more relevant part here than Democrats. isn't OP known for trying his best to lie and mislead people, but being kind of shit at it? --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:927976404] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Wall Street seems like the more relevant part here than Democrats.</quote> isn't OP known for trying his best to lie and mislead people, but being kind of shit at it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 09/26/19 1:30:34 PM #12:	Damn_Underscore posted... I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not. Seriously lol "Hey people who wanna vote Warren! If you vote for Warren you'll be doing so without the support of Wall Street!" is not the threat they think it is. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:927976409] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not.</quote>Seriously lol "Hey people who wanna vote Warren! If you vote for Warren you'll be doing so without the support of Wall Street!" is not the threat they think it is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 09/26/19 1:30:49 PM #13:	I'm completely shocked. I could have never seen Wall Street side with the candidate that likes deregulation and helps give out tax cuts to the rich. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:927976425] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>I'm completely shocked. I could have never seen Wall Street side with the candidate that likes deregulation and helps give out tax cuts to the rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 09/26/19 1:31:15 PM #14:	Then they're not democrats. Fuck em --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:927976442] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Then they're not democrats. Fuck em</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/26/19 1:31:42 PM #15:	The most ironic thing about Wall Street being so obsessed with Trump is that Trump himself wasn't really all that helpful to Wall Street. Honestly, Wall Street owes more to Bill Clinton than any other president. Hence why a lot of Democrats were not all that convinced when Hillary promised regulation. All of her donors were basically financial institutions and law firms. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927976464] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>The most ironic thing about Wall Street being so obsessed with Trump is that Trump himself wasn't really all that helpful to Wall Street. Honestly, Wall Street owes more to Bill Clinton than any other president. Hence why a lot of Democrats were not all that convinced when Hillary promised regulation. All of her donors were basically financial institutions and law firms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBKick18 09/26/19 1:35:33 PM #16:	Fuck them --- Proud fan of the worst team in American professional sports history: the Chicago Cubs. <cite>HBKick18 posted [p:927976624] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Fuck them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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konokonohamaru 09/26/19 1:44:59 PM #18:	I mean most of what the Democrats stand for these days are rich people fads instead of helping the working class, so this isn't surprising --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927977013] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>I mean most of what the Democrats stand for these days are rich people fads instead of helping the working class, so this isn't surprising</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 09/26/19 1:46:34 PM #19:	Doom_Art posted... Damn_Underscore posted... I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not. Seriously lol "Hey people who wanna vote Warren! If you vote for Warren you'll be doing so without the support of Wall Street!" is not the threat they think it is. Could be a 5D chess move endorsement of Warren over Bernie, since her campaigns are backed by raytheon and pharma leading her to be a lot squishier. I believe she'd obviously still be bad for them but I think they see the writing on the wall that Biden, Delaney, and Buttigieg types are dead in the water. They can't force us into selecting a card from a stacked deck like previous elections. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:927977087] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not.</quote>Seriously lol "Hey people who wanna vote Warren! If you vote for Warren you'll be doing so without the support of Wall Street!" is not the threat they think it is. </quote> Could be a 5D chess move endorsement of Warren over Bernie, since her campaigns are backed by raytheon and pharma leading her to be a lot squishier. I believe she'd obviously still be bad for them but I think they see the writing on the wall that Biden, Delaney, and Buttigieg types are dead in the water. They can't force us into selecting a card from a stacked deck like previous elections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/26/19 1:47:09 PM #20:	shockthemonkey posted... Yeah I forgot how popular Wall Street is with rural voters Fucking Hot Take Centrist strikes again! Rural voters have lots of cash, as we all know --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927977118] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah I forgot how popular Wall Street is with rural voters Fucking Hot Take Centrist strikes again!</quote> Rural voters have lots of cash, as we all know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/26/19 1:52:35 PM #21:	John_Galt posted... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html Discuss I call their bluff. Go ahead and sit out. Not like fucking new york is going to go red because of you. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:927977310] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>John_Galt posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html Discuss</quote> I call their bluff. Go ahead and sit out. Not like fucking new york is going to go red because of you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 09/26/19 1:56:29 PM #22:	DarkRoast posted... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Lose Although Hillary lost even with Wall Street so I guess that's kind of a moot point. wHaT aBoUt hEr PaiD SpEeChEs. Her Wall Street ties hurt her and will hurt any other Dem. It's not the 1980s anymore. You only court them when you're desperate for funds because your campaign has an enthusiasm gap leading to no grass roots funds. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:927977474] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Lose Although Hillary lost even with Wall Street so I guess that's kind of a moot point. </quote> wHaT aBoUt hEr PaiD SpEeChEs. Her Wall Street ties hurt her and will hurt any other Dem. It's not the 1980s anymore. You only court them when you're desperate for funds because your campaign has an enthusiasm gap leading to no grass roots funds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 09/26/19 1:58:37 PM #24:	foreverzero212 posted... wHaT aBoUt hEr PaiD SpEeChEs. Her Wall Street ties hurt her and will hurt any other Dem. It's not the 1980s anymore. You only court them when you're desperate for funds because your campaign has an enthusiasm gap leading to no grass roots funds. You have a good point --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927977561] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>wHaT aBoUt hEr PaiD SpEeChEs. Her Wall Street ties hurt her and will hurt any other Dem. It's not the 1980s anymore. You only court them when you're desperate for funds because your campaign has an enthusiasm gap leading to no grass roots funds.</quote> You have a good point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/26/19 3:18:51 PM #25:	I'm going to leave this article from September 2012 here https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/this-guy-hates-us-why-wall-street-turned-against-obama/261936/ --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:927980984] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>I'm going to leave this article from September 2012 here https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/this-guy-hates-us-why-wall-street-turned-against-obama/261936/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 09/26/19 3:20:28 PM #26:	Member when Trump was gonna drain the swamp then filled it with the people he said hillary would fill it with Sachs guys and wall street goons --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/gEfkzml.gif <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:927981043] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Member when Trump was gonna drain the swamp then filled it with the people he said hillary would fill it with Sachs guys and wall street goons</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pls 09/26/19 3:22:54 PM #28:	Vote Bernie --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927981126] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Vote Bernie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/26/19 3:32:52 PM #29:	Antifar posted... I'm going to leave this article from September 2012 here https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/this-guy-hates-us-why-wall-street-turned-against-obama/261936/ I don't quite understand the lesson I'm supposed to learn here. "Volker Rule bad"? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927981531] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I'm going to leave this article from September 2012 here https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/this-guy-hates-us-why-wall-street-turned-against-obama/261936/</quote> I don't quite understand the lesson I'm supposed to learn here. "Volker Rule bad"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
John_Galt 09/26/19 6:31:17 PM #30:	Spooking posted... The good news is Bernie has fallen to the teens That is good news --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:927989748] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>The good news is Bernie has fallen to the teens </quote> That is good news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/26/19 6:33:38 PM #31:	John_Galt posted... Spooking posted... The good news is Bernie has fallen to the teens That is good news No it's not. We need comprehensive and robust plans for fighting climate change and fixing healthcare. Bernie is the best candidate. Followed by Warren who is gaining ground. Ideally Bernie would win since imo his climate plan is way better. Fuck Trump. There are no good R candidates. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927989840] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>John_Galt posted...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>The good news is Bernie has fallen to the teens </quote> That is good news</quote> No it's not. We need comprehensive and robust plans for fighting climate change and fixing healthcare. Bernie is the best candidate. Followed by Warren who is gaining ground. Ideally Bernie would win since imo his climate plan is way better. Fuck Trump. There are no good R candidates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/26/19 6:35:15 PM #32:	Mitt Romney is boring and milquetoast, but would probably be OK. Man, I miss when politics wasn't a reality TV show run by a literal reality TV star --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927989898] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Mitt Romney is boring and milquetoast, but would probably be OK. Man, I miss when politics wasn't a reality TV show run by a literal reality TV star </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/26/19 6:35:42 PM #33:	We really need to stop tolerating these Wall Street folks. Too bad the left pretty much has no balls for the most part. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:927989919] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>We really need to stop tolerating these Wall Street folks. Too bad the left pretty much has no balls for the most part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/26/19 6:36:14 PM #34:	Southernfatman posted... We really need to stop tolerating these Wall Street folks. Too bad the left pretty much has no balls for the most part. What are you proposing be done? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927989939] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>We really need to stop tolerating these Wall Street folks. Too bad the left pretty much has no balls for the most part.</quote> What are you proposing be done?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 09/26/19 7:24:01 PM #35:	DarkRoast posted... Mitt Romney is boring and milquetoast, but would probably be OK. Man, I miss when politics wasn't a reality TV show run by a literal reality TV star I wanted 2016 to be a boring generic race between Hillary and Jeb! or Rubio A boring election where I could geek out about political stuff and bring my family and friends updates because I'm the only who cares enough to pay attention to everything Trump robbed me of that and I'll never forgive him for it --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:927991778] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>Mitt Romney is boring and milquetoast, but would probably be OK. Man, I miss when politics wasn't a reality TV show run by a literal reality TV star</quote>I wanted 2016 to be a boring generic race between Hillary and Jeb! or Rubio A boring election where I could geek out about political stuff and bring my family and friends updates because I'm the only who cares enough to pay attention to everything Trump robbed me of that and I'll never forgive him for it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/26/19 8:18:48 PM #36:	Doom_Art posted... I wanted 2016 to be a boring generic race between Hillary and Jeb! or Rubio A boring election where I could geek out about political stuff and bring my family and friends updates because I'm the only who cares enough to pay attention to everything Trump robbed me of that and I'll never forgive him for it I know, right? 2012 was an election that actually had normal, boring debates. Discussing actual issues. I miss those times. Reading Nate Silver, talking about strategy, etc. 2004 was a pretty fun election too. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927993966] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I wanted 2016 to be a boring generic race between Hillary and Jeb! or Rubio A boring election where I could geek out about political stuff and bring my family and friends updates because I'm the only who cares enough to pay attention to everything Trump robbed me of that and I'll never forgive him for it</quote> I know, right? 2012 was an election that actually had normal, boring debates. Discussing actual issues. I miss those times. Reading Nate Silver, talking about strategy, etc. 2004 was a pretty fun election too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pls 09/26/19 9:42:26 PM #39:	CrimsonRage posted... pls posted... John_Galt posted... Spooking posted... The good news is Bernie has fallen to the teens That is good news No it's not. We need comprehensive and robust plans for fighting climate change and fixing healthcare. Bernie is the best candidate. Followed by Warren who is gaining ground. Ideally Bernie would win since imo his climate plan is way better. Fuck Trump. There are no good R candidates. did ever officially welcome you to the resistance, proudclad? welcome @pls. better late than never ;) --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927997876] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>pls posted...</cite> <quote>John_Galt posted...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>The good news is Bernie has fallen to the teens </quote> That is good news</quote> No it's not. We need comprehensive and robust plans for fighting climate change and fixing healthcare. Bernie is the best candidate. Followed by Warren who is gaining ground. Ideally Bernie would win since imo his climate plan is way better. Fuck Trump. There are no good R candidates.</quote> did ever officially welcome you to the resistance, proudclad? welcome @pls. better late than never ;)</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/19 9:47:04 PM #40:	So? More poor people than there are Wall Street donors. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:927998095] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>So? More poor people than there are Wall Street donors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/26/19 10:09:08 PM #42:	Godnorgosh posted... Damn_Underscore posted... I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not. We really should be careful not to conflate Sanders and Warren. Warren's pulled some kinda sleazy shit this cycle, she's been really shaky on M4A, she favors means-tested solutions over universal ones, etc. There is only one America's Dad, Bernard Sanders. Warren stands to gain more than anyone if this Ukraine thing brings down both Trump and Biden, or even just Biden. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927999026] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not.</quote> We really should be careful not to conflate Sanders and Warren. Warren's pulled some kinda sleazy shit this cycle, she's been really shaky on M4A, she favors means-tested solutions over universal ones, etc. There is only one America's Dad, Bernard Sanders.</quote> Warren stands to gain more than anyone if this Ukraine thing brings down both Trump and Biden, or even just Biden.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/26/19 10:12:10 PM #43:	Godnorgosh posted... Damn_Underscore posted... I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not. We really should be careful not to conflate Sanders and Warren. Warren's pulled some kinda sleazy shit this cycle, she's been really shaky on M4A, she favors means-tested solutions over universal ones, etc. There is only one America's Dad, Bernard Sanders. Yeah, Bernie or bust tbh --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927999157] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not.</quote> We really should be careful not to conflate Sanders and Warren. Warren's pulled some kinda sleazy shit this cycle, she's been really shaky on M4A, she favors means-tested solutions over universal ones, etc. There is only one America's Dad, Bernard Sanders.</quote> Yeah, Bernie or bust tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/26/19 10:17:44 PM #45:	pls posted... Yeah, Bernie or bust tbh Meanwhile, in 2016... <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:927999381] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>pls posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Bernie or bust tbh</quote> Meanwhile, in 2016...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 09/26/19 10:18:46 PM #46:	imagine calling literal Nate silver a dumbass and expecting anyone to take you seriously lmao --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:927999424] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>imagine calling literal Nate silver a dumbass and expecting anyone to take you seriously lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 09/26/19 10:22:58 PM #47:	Godnorgosh posted... Damn_Underscore posted... I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not. We really should be careful not to conflate Sanders and Warren. Warren's pulled some kinda sleazy shit this cycle, she's been really shaky on M4A, she favors means-tested solutions over universal ones, etc. There is only one America's Dad, Bernard Sanders. Yeah, lots of people(especially liberals) like to pretend as though Warren and Sanders are interchangeable on policy, but if you bother to actually dig into it, you find that, on virtually every front, Sanders is significantly to Warren's left. His proposed policies are bigger, bolder, and broader. You can make the argument that Warren's policies are more possible, but I would counter that by acknowledging the framing that something is impossible, you are, in effect, insuring that it isn't! If it comes down to it, I'm sure Bernie will compromise, but I know he'll fight for the best possible compromises in a way Warren is already signaling that she won't. Also, it bears mentioning, since this is something that's basically never discussed, but they're night-and-day on foreign policy. Warren is extremely orthodox in that sense(and possibly even more pro-Israel than normal), whereas Sanders, for example, seems deeply skeptical of our "special relationships" with Israel and Saudi Arabia and is very dovish across the board. Basically, anyone whose conflating them is either misinformed or gas-lighting. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:927999645] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not.</quote> We really should be careful not to conflate Sanders and Warren. Warren's pulled some kinda sleazy shit this cycle, she's been really shaky on M4A, she favors means-tested solutions over universal ones, etc. There is only one America's Dad, Bernard Sanders.</quote> Yeah, lots of people(especially liberals) like to pretend as though Warren and Sanders are interchangeable on policy, but if you bother to actually dig into it, you find that, on virtually every front, Sanders is significantly to Warren's left. His proposed policies are bigger, bolder, and broader. You can make the argument that Warren's policies are more possible, but I would counter that by acknowledging the framing that something is impossible, you are, in effect, insuring that it isn't! If it comes down to it, I'm sure Bernie will compromise, but I know he'll fight for the best possible compromises in a way Warren is already signaling that she won't. Also, it bears mentioning, since this is something that's basically never discussed, but they're night-and-day on foreign policy. Warren is extremely orthodox in that sense(and possibly even more pro-Israel than normal), whereas Sanders, for example, seems deeply skeptical of our "special relationships" with Israel and Saudi Arabia and is very dovish across the board. Basically, anyone whose conflating them is either misinformed or gas-lighting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/26/19 10:24:16 PM #48:	Godnorgosh posted... DarkRoast posted... Reading Nate Silver, Unfortunately Nate Silver has now kinda outed himself as a dumbass with tweets like this: https://mobile.twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1172183389631328261 oh man... --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927999722] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Reading Nate Silver,</quote> Unfortunately Nate Silver has now kinda outed himself as a dumbass with tweets like this: https://mobile.twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1172183389631328261</quote> oh man...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 09/26/19 10:31:44 PM #50:	Godnorgosh posted... FrisbeeDude posted... imagine calling literal Nate silver a dumbass and expecting anyone to take you seriously lmao He's great with statistics, but can't seem to make basic connections like "polling at 1% = probably not very electable." It's worth mentioning he said in 2012 he was probably going to vote for Gary Johnson. Also, he spent basically the entire 2016 primary campaign insisting Trump couldn't win the Republican nomination for ~reasons~ and is weirdly insistent that Amy Klobuchar is super electable because ??? He's really good with numbers, but he's bad as a pundit, even compared to other pundits. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:928000072] in Democrats:... [t:78043395]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>imagine calling literal Nate silver a dumbass and expecting anyone to take you seriously lmao </quote> He's great with statistics, but can't seem to make basic connections like "polling at 1% = probably not very electable."</quote> It's worth mentioning he said in 2012 he was probably going to vote for Gary Johnson. Also, he spent basically the entire 2016 primary campaign insisting Trump couldn't win the Republican nomination for ~reasons~ and is weirdly insistent that Amy Klobuchar is super electable because ??? He's really good with numbers, but he's bad as a pundit, even compared to other pundits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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