Current Events > UK Conservatives on how to improve education: let teachers hit kids!

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Malfunction
08/27/19 1:27:45 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/aug/27/leaked-documents-reveal-tories-dramatic-plans-for-schools

While proposals including a 3.5bn funding announcement and plans to increase teachers basic pay may be broadly welcomed, there will be concern in some quarters over a package of disciplinary measures that include a renewed emphasis on exclusions and allowing teachers to use reasonable force to improve behaviour.
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AlephZero
08/27/19 1:28:11 PM
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bring back bullying
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Parappa09
08/27/19 1:28:34 PM
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rough them up a little

trumps britain

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PoopPotato
08/27/19 1:29:11 PM
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Is their education system failing?
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pinky0926
08/27/19 1:30:32 PM
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What do you expect when you put tory boarding school tosspots into power

They all think hitting kids is the natural order of things
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Questionmarktarius
08/27/19 2:30:26 PM
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Roger Waters already explained why this is a bad idea, forty years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS_plbAkZyU" data-time="
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coh
08/27/19 2:31:55 PM
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Some kids are just assholes to be fair
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pogo_rabid
08/27/19 2:33:17 PM
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I've seen enough videos of out of control classrooms with kids that just dont give a shit because they know nothing will ever happen to them.

Maybe outright striking a shithead isn't called for, but some schools need more leeway when dealing with kids who are consistent disruptions.
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Malfunction
08/27/19 2:34:53 PM
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The psychopaths have logged on
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averagejoel
08/27/19 2:35:48 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
outright striking a shithead isn't called for

this was the only necessary part of your post
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pogo_rabid
08/27/19 2:38:10 PM
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averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
outright striking a shithead isn't called for

this was the only necessary part of your post

What do you suggest is to be done with schools that can't deal with out of control shitheads with their current restrictions? Clearly getting tossed from class/suspensions aren't working.
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emblem boy
08/27/19 2:47:39 PM
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averagejoel
08/27/19 3:00:24 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
outright striking a shithead isn't called for

this was the only necessary part of your post

What do you suggest is to be done with schools that can't deal with out of control shitheads with their current restrictions? Clearly getting tossed from class/suspensions aren't working.

allowing adults to hit children makes it worse.
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pogo_rabid
08/27/19 3:14:24 PM
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averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
outright striking a shithead isn't called for

this was the only necessary part of your post

What do you suggest is to be done with schools that can't deal with out of control shitheads with their current restrictions? Clearly getting tossed from class/suspensions aren't working.

allowing adults to hit children makes it worse.

That doesn't answer my question tho.
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GiftedACIII
08/27/19 3:16:49 PM
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Thanks Boris
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averagejoel
08/27/19 3:19:10 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
outright striking a shithead isn't called for

this was the only necessary part of your post

What do you suggest is to be done with schools that can't deal with out of control shitheads with their current restrictions? Clearly getting tossed from class/suspensions aren't working.

allowing adults to hit children makes it worse.

That doesn't answer my question tho.

your question is disingenuous and assumes, incorrectly, that allowing teachers to hit students would help the issue. ask a better one.
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pogo_rabid
08/27/19 3:20:35 PM
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averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
outright striking a shithead isn't called for

this was the only necessary part of your post

What do you suggest is to be done with schools that can't deal with out of control shitheads with their current restrictions? Clearly getting tossed from class/suspensions aren't working.

allowing adults to hit children makes it worse.

That doesn't answer my question tho.

your question is disingenuous and assumes, incorrectly, that allowing teachers to hit students would help the issue.

No it doesn't. That's you projecting.

What would you do as an alternative? I outright said teachers shouldn't hit kids. If you want to read what I said in a different way, that's a you problem.

You're still just avoiding the question because you don't have any answers, is that what I should take away from your avoidance?
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averagejoel
08/27/19 3:25:29 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
averagejoel posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
outright striking a shithead isn't called for

this was the only necessary part of your post

What do you suggest is to be done with schools that can't deal with out of control shitheads with their current restrictions? Clearly getting tossed from class/suspensions aren't working.

allowing adults to hit children makes it worse.

That doesn't answer my question tho.

your question is disingenuous and assumes, incorrectly, that allowing teachers to hit students would help the issue.

No it doesn't. That's you projecting.

What would you do as an alternative? I outright said teachers shouldn't hit kids. If you want to read what I said in a different way, that's a you problem.

You're still just avoiding the question because you don't have any answers, is that what I should take away from your avoidance?

have you considered researching what schools currently do?
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pogo_rabid
08/27/19 3:27:31 PM
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So you're going to triple down on the deflections? Clearly not worth continuing this if you've got nothing to say.
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averagejoel
08/27/19 3:30:13 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
So you're going to triple down on the deflections? Clearly not worth continuing this if you've got nothing to say.

I have plenty of things to say. I just think that the proposed boundaries of your questions are inadequate for an actual productive discussion.
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Sir Will
08/27/19 3:30:23 PM
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PoopPotato posted...
Is their education system failing?

Like with healthcare, Conservatives will make sure it does.
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Cheater87
08/27/19 3:31:02 PM
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Really?

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Malfunction
08/27/19 3:31:19 PM
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your 'suggestion' wouldn't do much other than fulfil a power/revenge fantasy in the minds of some teachers
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knutjob
08/27/19 3:34:26 PM
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Remember UK tories are actually liberals...

or something...
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