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r25 08/02/19 4:25:33 PM #1:	How is that a bad thing <cite>r25 posted [p:925532692] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>How is that a bad thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/02/19 4:27:10 PM #2:	"I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:925532771] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>"I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 4:27:54 PM #3:	Antifar posted... "I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life Damn that's real <cite>r25 posted [p:925532800] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life</quote> Damn that's real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarrieChan 08/02/19 4:29:32 PM #4:	It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box. <cite>CarrieChan posted [p:925532864] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 4:31:00 PM #5:	CarrieChan posted... It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box. Compared to a only a decade ago when they had to check off the "appeal to majority" box. And the "token black" box was the only other thing to check off. <cite>r25 posted [p:925532947] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>CarrieChan posted...</cite> <quote>It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box.</quote> Compared to a only a decade ago when they had to check off the "appeal to majority" box. And the "token black" box was the only other thing to check off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/02/19 4:31:16 PM #6:	"Entertainment is an escape from reality!" "Based on population statistics, minorities are overrepresented in media! How can I relate?" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:925532956] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>"Entertainment is an escape from reality!" "Based on population statistics, minorities are overrepresented in media! How can I relate?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muten_Jiren 08/02/19 4:32:15 PM #7:	Pure racism <cite>Muten_Jiren posted [p:925532998] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Pure racism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 08/02/19 4:33:12 PM #8:	Antifar posted... "I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:925533033] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 08/02/19 4:34:06 PM #9:	Antifar posted... "I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life Got em --- Name checks out https://i.imgtc.ws/vBF8odT.png <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:925533083] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life</quote> Got em</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToPoPO 08/02/19 4:34:17 PM #10:	r25 posted... CarrieChan posted... It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box. Compared to a only a decade ago when they had to check off the "appeal to majority" box. And the "token black" box was the only other thing to check off. Asians here still suffering <cite>ToPoPO posted [p:925533090] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>r25 posted...</cite> <quote>CarrieChan posted...</cite> <quote>It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box.</quote> Compared to a only a decade ago when they had to check off the "appeal to majority" box. And the "token black" box was the only other thing to check off.</quote> Asians here still suffering</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 08/02/19 4:35:05 PM #11:	It's an acceptable means of expressing negative views of other races and of social progress towards inclusion and increasing social/cultural/and economic power for those groups. It's an expression of anger about losing relative power over the media and the types of characters that are presented as heroes or at least worthy of empathy. That's why they claim representation isn't important when minorities argue for access but freak out when that access actually happens. Because it is important. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:925533134] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>It's an acceptable means of expressing negative views of other races and of social progress towards inclusion and increasing social/cultural/and economic power for those groups. It's an expression of anger about losing relative power over the media and the types of characters that are presented as heroes or at least worthy of empathy. That's why they claim representation isn't important when minorities argue for access but freak out when that access actually happens. Because it is important.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 4:37:04 PM #12:	legendary_zell posted... It's an acceptable means of expressing negative views of other races and of social progress towards inclusion and increasing social/cultural/and economic power for those groups. It's an expression of anger about losing relative power over the media and the types of characters that are presented as heroes or at least worthy of empathy. That's why they claim representation isn't important when minorities argue for access but freak out when that access actually happens. Because it is important. Expanding my mind with this knowledge. I agree that the anger can come from "losing power" but that's why we as humans must unite. <cite>r25 posted [p:925533214] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>It's an acceptable means of expressing negative views of other races and of social progress towards inclusion and increasing social/cultural/and economic power for those groups. It's an expression of anger about losing relative power over the media and the types of characters that are presented as heroes or at least worthy of empathy. That's why they claim representation isn't important when minorities argue for access but freak out when that access actually happens. Because it is important.</quote> Expanding my mind with this knowledge. I agree that the anger can come from "losing power" but that's why we as humans must unite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/02/19 4:38:54 PM #13:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Antifar posted... "I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life Got em --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925533278] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life</quote> Got em</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 4:39:39 PM #14:	ToPoPO posted... r25 posted... CarrieChan posted... It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box. Compared to a only a decade ago when they had to check off the "appeal to majority" box. And the "token black" box was the only other thing to check off. Asians here still suffering Sucks how when an Asian film comes out it's always pandering. Like the new Shang-Chi vs Mandarin MAY movie announced. <cite>r25 posted [p:925533323] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>ToPoPO posted...</cite> <quote>r25 posted...</cite> <quote>CarrieChan posted...</cite> <quote>It is usually badly done as a means to check off a box.</quote> Compared to a only a decade ago when they had to check off the "appeal to majority" box. And the "token black" box was the only other thing to check off.</quote> Asians here still suffering</quote> Sucks how when an Asian film comes out it's always pandering. Like the new Shang-Chi vs Mandarin MAY movie announced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 08/02/19 4:39:51 PM #15:	I dont think there are many against it. There certainly seems to be efforts to make it appear as though there is, however. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:925533333] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>I dont think there are many against it. There certainly seems to be efforts to make it appear as though there is, however.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 7:38:10 PM #16:	Against Shang-Chi? Yeah I haven't heard much except Simu Liu isn't a martial artist. And the character is supposed to be the best kung fu master. <cite>r25 posted [p:925540135] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Against Shang-Chi? Yeah I haven't heard much except Simu Liu isn't a martial artist. And the character is supposed to be the best kung fu master.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpsycho 08/02/19 7:39:39 PM #17:	Zodd3224 posted... Lost_All_Senses posted... Antifar posted... "I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life Got em --- Husband. Father. Gamer. https://imgur.com/ZrnUI3A ~United_World. https://imgtc.com/i/3fBg5r1.jpg ~Proofpyros. https://i.imgtc.ws/1rnJA1h.jpg ~Ryetoast <cite>hyperpsycho posted [p:925540190] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm against pandering." - guy who has been pandered to his whole life</quote> Got em</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 08/02/19 7:52:35 PM #18:	My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:925540705] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 7:53:50 PM #19:	DevsBro posted... My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever. What do you mean different demographic <cite>r25 posted [p:925540754] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever.</quote> What do you mean different demographic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 08/02/19 7:55:21 PM #20:	r25 posted... DevsBro posted... My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever. What do you mean different demographic Make Superman black, make Major Kusanagi white, make Black Canary a dude, etc. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:925540806] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>r25 posted...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever.</quote> What do you mean different demographic</quote> Make Superman black, make Major Kusanagi white, make Black Canary a dude, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 08/02/19 7:57:26 PM #21:	Everythings offensive so you just talk to your close buddies of same mind. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:925540886] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Everythings offensive so you just talk to your close buddies of same mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 08/02/19 7:59:22 PM #22:	When the creators don't have the balls to make a unique show or movie and instead just change the main characters, it's kind of annoying tbqh. --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:925540964] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>When the creators don't have the balls to make a unique show or movie and instead just change the main characters, it's kind of annoying tbqh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 08/02/19 8:02:47 PM #23:	I'm not. I'm only against changing already established characters just to do it. That's not from the typical racist viewpoint you usually hear about, just an angry fanboy afraid of change viewpoint. Take James Bond for example. 90% of the people calling for JB to not be played by a white actor are people who aren't fans and won't even watch a new movie with a different lead anyway. For the most part, it's not even about if an actor who isn't white happens to be the best one for the job (which I myself am fine with before I get called things), but people being angry, annoyed, or tired of the fact that he's a white character. It's obvious virtue signaling in these specific cases. Other than that, I perfectly fine with it. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:925541103] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>I'm not. I'm only against changing already established characters just to do it. That's not from the typical racist viewpoint you usually hear about, just an angry fanboy afraid of change viewpoint. Take James Bond for example. 90% of the people calling for JB to not be played by a white actor are people who aren't fans and won't even watch a new movie with a different lead anyway. For the most part, it's not even about if an actor who isn't white happens to be the best one for the job (which I myself am fine with before I get called things), but people being angry, annoyed, or tired of the fact that he's a white character. It's obvious virtue signaling in these specific cases. Other than that, I perfectly fine with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 8:11:03 PM #24:	DevsBro posted... r25 posted... DevsBro posted... My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever. What do you mean different demographic Make Superman black, make Major Kusanagi white, make Black Canary a dude, etc. I don't think that's what demographic means. But I get what your saying. Racebending is a problem, not the solution. <cite>r25 posted [p:925541396] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>r25 posted...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>My only thing is it doesn't make sense to cast a character as a different demographic. But I mean, asise frim like two seconds of "well that's weird" I don't really care lol. If they wanna make Jimmy B black or whatever, I don't get it but whatever.</quote> What do you mean different demographic</quote> Make Superman black, make Major Kusanagi white, make Black Canary a dude, etc.</quote> I don't think that's what demographic means. But I get what your saying. Racebending is a problem, not the solution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vol2tex 08/02/19 8:13:28 PM #25:	The point of the changes is to show that being a particular skin color isn't essential to the character (like Nick Fury). --- https://imgtc.com/i/7cQjt43.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/UISXfjE.jpg <cite>Vol2tex posted [p:925541473] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>The point of the changes is to show that being a particular skin color isn't essential to the character (like Nick Fury).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 08/02/19 8:15:46 PM #26:	Because anything other than straight white males is bullshit pandering, especially since the bar for minority characters has to be very high or people will call them tokens. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/nDVyBfn.gif <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:925541559] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Because anything other than straight white males is bullshit pandering, especially since the bar for minority characters has to be very high or people will call them tokens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 08/02/19 8:19:59 PM #27:	Vol2tex posted... The point of the changes is to show that being a particular skin color isn't essential to the character (like Nick Fury). Wasn't Ultimate Nick Fury black? That isn't the same thing as say racebending the Power Rangers. <cite>r25 posted [p:925541689] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>Vol2tex posted...</cite> <quote>The point of the changes is to show that being a particular skin color isn't essential to the character (like Nick Fury).</quote> Wasn't Ultimate Nick Fury black? That isn't the same thing as say racebending the Power Rangers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vol2tex 08/02/19 8:21:55 PM #28:	r25 posted... Vol2tex posted... The point of the changes is to show that being a particular skin color isn't essential to the character (like Nick Fury). Wasn't Ultimate Nick Fury black? That isn't the same thing as say racebending the Power Rangers. The original wasn't though, unless you are mainly referring to movie/TV adaptations. Was Iris West black in the comics? --- https://imgtc.com/i/7cQjt43.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/UISXfjE.jpg <cite>Vol2tex posted [p:925541762] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>r25 posted...</cite> <quote>Vol2tex posted...</cite> <quote>The point of the changes is to show that being a particular skin color isn't essential to the character (like Nick Fury).</quote> Wasn't Ultimate Nick Fury black? That isn't the same thing as say racebending the Power Rangers.</quote> The original wasn't though, unless you are mainly referring to movie/TV adaptations. Was Iris West black in the comics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/02/19 8:24:48 PM #29:	I've nothing against it. There are a lot of good works -- particularly dealing with things such as science fiction, fantasy, action, superheroes, or westerns -- which stem from times when white male demographics were all the filmmakers or product makers thought about. Hence, those stories had a bunch of white guys and one token (white) female love interest. Today, things are different. It's not so much a changing demographic as it is an understanding that other groups do exist and deserve a voice. So if your favorite story is 9 white guys and 1 white girl, the remake is going to diversify the cast. That might mean the supporting character you identify with most is now a member of a different ethnic group. It happens. There are priorities and leaving characters and scenarios from pre-Civil Rights era media unchanged takes a backseat to being inclusive. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925541876] in Why are so... [t:77909916]...</cite> <quote>I've nothing against it. There are a lot of good works -- particularly dealing with things such as science fiction, fantasy, action, superheroes, or westerns -- which stem from times when white male demographics were all the filmmakers or product makers thought about. Hence, those stories had a bunch of white guys and one token (white) female love interest. Today, things are different. It's not so much a changing demographic as it is an understanding that other groups do exist and deserve a voice. So if your favorite story is 9 white guys and 1 white girl, the remake is going to diversify the cast. That might mean the supporting character you identify with most is now a member of a different ethnic group. It happens. There are priorities and leaving characters and scenarios from pre-Civil Rights era media unchanged takes a backseat to being inclusive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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