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PleaseClap 05/23/19 3:27:14 AM #1:	https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/22/proposed-hud-rule-would-strip-transgender-protections-homeless-shelters/?utm_term=.9138d441cbc0 The Department of Housing and Urban Development on Wednesday proposed a new rule that would weaken Obama-era protections for homeless transgender people, allowing federally funded shelters to deny people admission on religious grounds or force transgender women to share bathrooms and sleeping quarters with men. The proposed rule comes one day after HUD Secretary Ben Carson assured members of Congress the agency had no plans to eliminate the 2012 Equal Access Rule, which barred federal housing discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. When questioned by Rep. Jennifer Wexton (D-VA) on HUDs treatment of transgender people, Carson said his responsibility is to make sure everybody is treated fairly. He assured Wexton that HUD had no plans to alter the Equal Access protection, saying: "Im not currently anticipating changing the rule. The proposal is the latest move by the Trump administration to weaken protections for transgender Americans, including a Department of Defense ban on transgender troops and a Department of Health and Human Services proposal allowing medical providers to deny treatment to transgender people on religious grounds. In 2017, the HUD website removed links to documents that guided emergency shelters on how best to serve transgender people facing homelessness and comply with agency regulations. It also withdrew policy proposals requiring HUD-funded emergency shelters to post notices informing people of LGTBQ rights and protections. Carson told the House Financial Services Committee that those notices were unnecessary because the Equal Access Rule provisions already adequately provide for fairness for all communities. He said he wanted to allow for more local jurisdictional control over how to treat people. As to whether LGBTQ people should be protected under fair housing and other civil rights laws, Carson said: If you want to do something different about the definition of gender, that is a congressional duty. Wexton on Wednesday chastised Carson for HUDs move to roll back transgender protections. Yesterday, I asked Secretary Carson directly if he was anticipating any changes to HUDs Equal Access Rule and he said no. The announcement today that HUD will now allow anti-trans discrimination in shelters demonstrates that he either lied to Congress or has no idea what policies his agency is pursuing. Either way, its unacceptable," Wexton said in a statement. The agency published a one-paragraph summary of the proposal, allowing shelters whose facilities are segregated by sex -- such as bathrooms, showers, and sleeping quarters -- to establish a policy that considers an individuals sex for the purposes of determining admission. The new rule says shelters could consider a range of factors, including privacy, safety, practical concerns, religious beliefs, when deciding whether or how to accommodate someone. 1/2 --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922257983] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/22/proposed-hud-rule-would-strip-transgender-protections-homeless-shelters/?utm_term=.9138d441cbc0 <quote>The Department of Housing and Urban Development on Wednesday proposed a new rule that would weaken Obama-era protections for homeless transgender people, allowing federally funded shelters to deny people admission on religious grounds or force transgender women to share bathrooms and sleeping quarters with men. The proposed rule comes one day after HUD Secretary Ben Carson assured members of Congress the agency had no plans to eliminate the 2012 Equal Access Rule, which barred federal housing discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. When questioned by Rep. Jennifer Wexton (D-VA) on HUDs treatment of transgender people, Carson said his responsibility is to make sure everybody is treated fairly. He assured Wexton that HUD had no plans to alter the Equal Access protection, saying: "Im not currently anticipating changing the rule. The proposal is the latest move by the Trump administration to weaken protections for transgender Americans, including a Department of Defense ban on transgender troops and a Department of Health and Human Services proposal allowing medical providers to deny treatment to transgender people on religious grounds. In 2017, the HUD website removed links to documents that guided emergency shelters on how best to serve transgender people facing homelessness and comply with agency regulations. It also withdrew policy proposals requiring HUD-funded emergency shelters to post notices informing people of LGTBQ rights and protections. Carson told the House Financial Services Committee that those notices were unnecessary because the Equal Access Rule provisions already adequately provide for fairness for all communities. He said he wanted to allow for more local jurisdictional control over how to treat people. As to whether LGBTQ people should be protected under fair housing and other civil rights laws, Carson said: If you want to do something different about the definition of gender, that is a congressional duty. Wexton on Wednesday chastised Carson for HUDs move to roll back transgender protections. Yesterday, I asked Secretary Carson directly if he was anticipating any changes to HUDs Equal Access Rule and he said no. The announcement today that HUD will now allow anti-trans discrimination in shelters demonstrates that he either lied to Congress or has no idea what policies his agency is pursuing. Either way, its unacceptable," Wexton said in a statement. The agency published a one-paragraph summary of the proposal, allowing shelters whose facilities are segregated by sex -- such as bathrooms, showers, and sleeping quarters -- to establish a policy that considers an individuals sex for the purposes of determining admission. The new rule says shelters could consider a range of factors, including privacy, safety, practical concerns, religious beliefs, when deciding whether or how to accommodate someone.</quote> 1/2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/23/19 3:28:08 AM #2:	The agency, in its summary, also said the rule continues HUDs policy of ensuring that its programs are open to all eligible individuals and families regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. Transgender advocates characterized it as a heartless attack and said it signifies an escalation of the Trump administrations broader plan to erase transgender people from federal regulations and legal interpretations. It completely guts the Equal Access Rule," said Mara Keisling, Executive Director of the National Center for Transgender Equality. The Trump administration is, once again, targeting the most vulnerable trans people by empowering shelters to turn people away and deny them equal access to services." The agency told the Post it has no intention of removing the Equal Access Rule and will continue enforcing its provisions. But in a statement HUD acknowledged that the agency will be proposing a change later this year that will offer local homeless shelter providers greater flexibility when making decisions about individuals who may misrepresent their sex to access sex-specific shelters. One in three transgender people have experienced homelessness including one in eight in the last year alone, putting them at risk of physical and sexual violence and being forced into sex work, according to the National Center for Transgender Equality. Seventy percent of transgender people who tried going to a shelter in the last year were kicked out for being transgender, were physically or sexually assaulted, or faced another form of mistreatment because of their gender identity, the center said. The new proposal caught career staffers by surprise, including some who have worked on writing housing policies related to LGTBQ people. We dont even know where its coming from. What are they hoping to accomplish?" said one staffer who is not authorized to speak on the record. "Now its not clear what guidelines people are supposed to follow. Its crazy. Similarly, HUD career staff were not involved in another Trump administration proposal to purge undocumented immigrants from subsidized housing. Career staff later wrote an analysis of the proposal targeting families of mixed immigration status and concluded that it could put up to 55,000 children who are legal U.S. residents or citizens at risk of eviction and homelessness. I was told that the Trump administration were huge allies of the lgbt community, what happened? --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922257997] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><quote>The agency, in its summary, also said the rule continues HUDs policy of ensuring that its programs are open to all eligible individuals and families regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. Transgender advocates characterized it as a heartless attack and said it signifies an escalation of the Trump administrations broader plan to erase transgender people from federal regulations and legal interpretations. It completely guts the Equal Access Rule," said Mara Keisling, Executive Director of the National Center for Transgender Equality. The Trump administration is, once again, targeting the most vulnerable trans people by empowering shelters to turn people away and deny them equal access to services." The agency told the Post it has no intention of removing the Equal Access Rule and will continue enforcing its provisions. But in a statement HUD acknowledged that the agency will be proposing a change later this year that will offer local homeless shelter providers greater flexibility when making decisions about individuals who may misrepresent their sex to access sex-specific shelters. One in three transgender people have experienced homelessness including one in eight in the last year alone, putting them at risk of physical and sexual violence and being forced into sex work, according to the National Center for Transgender Equality. Seventy percent of transgender people who tried going to a shelter in the last year were kicked out for being transgender, were physically or sexually assaulted, or faced another form of mistreatment because of their gender identity, the center said. The new proposal caught career staffers by surprise, including some who have worked on writing housing policies related to LGTBQ people. We dont even know where its coming from. What are they hoping to accomplish?" said one staffer who is not authorized to speak on the record. "Now its not clear what guidelines people are supposed to follow. Its crazy. Similarly, HUD career staff were not involved in another Trump administration proposal to purge undocumented immigrants from subsidized housing. Career staff later wrote an analysis of the proposal targeting families of mixed immigration status and concluded that it could put up to 55,000 children who are legal U.S. residents or citizens at risk of eviction and homelessness.</quote> I was told that the Trump administration were huge allies of the lgbt community, what happened?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 05/23/19 3:29:54 AM #3:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHCwU9rUdY" data-time="&start=43 --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:922258034] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHCwU9rUdY" data-time="&start=43</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/23/19 3:31:20 AM #4:	What does HUD have to do with homeless shelters anyway? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922258048] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>What does HUD have to do with homeless shelters anyway?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 05/23/19 3:43:36 AM #5:	Is it really that big of a deal to have to use the mens room if you have a dick? <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:922258234] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Is it really that big of a deal to have to use the mens room if you have a dick?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 05/23/19 3:46:04 AM #6:	ZeroKelvin posted... Is it really that big of a deal to have to use the mens room if you have a dick? Look who didn't read. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:922258277] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZeroKelvin posted...</cite> <quote>Is it really that big of a deal to have to use the mens room if you have a dick?</quote> Look who didn't read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/23/19 10:32:23 AM #7:	Bump --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922266065] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/23/19 11:04:45 AM #8:	This is why we need to get that last 38th state to finally ratify the ERA. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922267244] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>This is why we need to get that last 38th state to finally ratify the ERA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/23/19 11:55:50 AM #9:	Questionmarktarius posted... This is why we need to get that last 38th state to finally ratify the ERA. Seems unlikely --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922269247] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>This is why we need to get that last 38th state to finally ratify the ERA.</quote> Seems unlikely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 05/23/19 11:57:51 AM #10:	disgusting --- I use Gameraven and you should too. http://error1355.com/ce/teepan95.html <cite>teepan95 posted [p:922269323] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>disgusting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/23/19 11:59:43 AM #11:	Federal funding is just a truck full of canned worms anyway. "why are there so many strings attached?!" "why aren't the strings I want attached?!" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922269391] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Federal funding is just a truck full of canned worms anyway. "why are there so many strings attached?!" "why aren't the strings I want attached?!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 05/23/19 12:01:09 PM #12:	Why do these people care so damn much about what others do with their own bodies? --- Sigful user. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:922269459] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Why do these people care so damn much about what others do with their own bodies?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Thinker 05/23/19 12:01:37 PM #13:	PleaseClap posted... I was told that the Trump administration were huge allies of the lgbt community, what happened? Have you ignored the comments made for years about pulling yourself up by the bootstraps? It is now being put into policy. --- Always 5 steps ahead <cite>The_Thinker posted [p:922269479] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote> I was told that the Trump administration were huge allies of the lgbt community, what happened?</quote> Have you ignored the comments made for years about pulling yourself up by the bootstraps? It is now being put into policy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/23/19 12:04:11 PM #14:	Shablagoo posted... Why do these people care so damn much about what others do with their own bodies? Because, unisex toilets disappeared sometime in the victorian era, and we're just now getting back to the idea. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922269597] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>Why do these people care so damn much about what others do with their own bodies?</quote> Because, unisex toilets disappeared sometime in the victorian era, and we're just now getting back to the idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 05/23/19 12:04:18 PM #15:	Guys, he held a rainbow flag upside down, remember? Greatest president for LGBT ever. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:922269604] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Guys, he held a rainbow flag upside down, remember? Greatest president for LGBT ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 05/23/19 12:06:47 PM #16:	why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? did a transgender person beat trumps ass as a kid or something? hes so triggered --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:922269679] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? did a transgender person beat trumps ass as a kid or something? hes so triggered</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/23/19 12:10:41 PM #17:	spudger posted... why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922269812] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people?</quote> This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 05/23/19 12:12:56 PM #18:	spudger posted... why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? did a transgender person beat trumps ass as a kid or something? hes so triggered - Mexicans are lazy, can't be trusted and ruining the economy, so we need a wall - Women's reproductive organs need to be decided for them, so we need more laws - Trans people aren't really a people, just a mistake that needs managing with regulations - Children are too smart these days, so we need to cut their funding - The military isn't big enough, that's where the education budget can go - It's still not quite enough so, grab some of those funds from those annoying EPA guys - Foreign aid is annoying and eats into valuable golf time There's a theme here. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:922269900] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? did a transgender person beat trumps ass as a kid or something? hes so triggered</quote> - Mexicans are lazy, can't be trusted and ruining the economy, so we need a wall - Women's reproductive organs need to be decided for them, so we need more laws - Trans people aren't really a people, just a mistake that needs managing with regulations - Children are too smart these days, so we need to cut their funding - The military isn't big enough, that's where the education budget can go - It's still not quite enough so, grab some of those funds from those annoying EPA guys - Foreign aid is annoying and eats into valuable golf time There's a theme here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 05/23/19 12:21:01 PM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... spudger posted... why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though. if they deny trans people? --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:922270191] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people?</quote> This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though.</quote> if they deny trans people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/23/19 12:22:21 PM #20:	spudger posted... Questionmarktarius posted... spudger posted... why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though. if they deny trans people? By throwing money at "faith-based" shelters, that have apparently been successful in lobbying to get that particular string removed. This new regulatory tweak doesn't compel trans discrimination, at least not that I'm aware of. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922270257] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people?</quote> This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though.</quote> if they deny trans people?</quote> By throwing money at "faith-based" shelters, that have apparently been successful in lobbying to get that particular string removed. This new regulatory tweak doesn't compel trans discrimination, at least not that I'm aware of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 05/23/19 12:26:06 PM #21:	Questionmarktarius posted... spudger posted... Questionmarktarius posted... spudger posted... why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people? This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though. if they deny trans people? By throwing money at "faith-based" shelters, that have apparently been successful in lobbying to get that particular string removed. This new regulatory tweak doesn't compel trans discrimination, at least not that I'm aware of. still rather disingenuous --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:922270402] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>why waste all this time money resources on hurting a group of people?</quote> This new tweak means more public money thrown at homeless shelters, though.</quote> if they deny trans people?</quote> By throwing money at "faith-based" shelters, that have apparently been successful in lobbying to get that particular string removed. This new regulatory tweak doesn't compel trans discrimination, at least not that I'm aware of.</quote> still rather disingenuous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 05/23/19 12:26:37 PM #22:	Nice --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:922270432] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Nice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/23/19 12:44:27 PM #23:	Im disappointed CE, it took 22 posts for someone to come out and say how this is actually a good thing. It only took the politics board 4 posts You guys are losing your edge --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922271121] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Im disappointed CE, it took 22 posts for someone to come out and say how this is actually a good thing. It only took the politics board 4 posts You guys are losing your edge</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 05/23/19 2:07:40 PM #24:	Questionmarktarius posted... What does HUD have to do with homeless shelters anyway? What does Housing and Urban Development have to do with housing homeless people in shelters... hmmm --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:922274649] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>What does HUD have to do with homeless shelters anyway?</quote> What does Housing and Urban Development have to do with housing homeless people in shelters... hmmm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 05/23/19 2:17:11 PM #25:	CableZL posted... Questionmarktarius posted... What does HUD have to do with homeless shelters anyway? What does Housing and Urban Development have to do with housing homeless people in shelters... hmmm Yep. If they were looking for something specific, Emergency Solutions Grant money can also be used for operating costs of emergency shelters. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:922275028] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>What does HUD have to do with homeless shelters anyway?</quote> What does Housing and Urban Development have to do with housing homeless people in shelters... hmmm</quote> Yep. If they were looking for something specific, Emergency Solutions Grant money can also be used for operating costs of emergency shelters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/23/19 4:17:06 PM #26:	Bump. --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922280003] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Bump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/23/19 9:12:57 PM #27:	I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922292454] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 05/24/19 5:45:32 AM #28:	PleaseClap posted... I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want first of all, how dare you --- Sigful user. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:922304935] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want</quote> first of all, how dare you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 05/24/19 5:53:18 AM #29:	If the shelter is there to help all homeless people, why would trans people require special means of help? People get so pissy when I say they only want equality when it's convenient for them, then shit like this keeps coming up and proving me right. If they have a dick, there's absolutely no reason they can't sleep with the men. Would you guys want me sleeping with your wives and daughters because I put on a dress and claim to be trans? Of course not, you'd be uncomfortable as hell. But if course these days nobody can admit that, for fear of offending some percieved protected group. Either take the equality you want so damn bad, or move elsewhere. If it's so damn bad here, what's keeping you here? --- "In the end we're all dicks".-ReiderAsmadi Candy, tastes like chicken if chicken was a candy -Toki Wartooth <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:922305014] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>If the shelter is there to help all homeless people, why would trans people require special means of help? People get so pissy when I say they only want equality when it's convenient for them, then shit like this keeps coming up and proving me right. If they have a dick, there's absolutely no reason they can't sleep with the men. Would you guys want me sleeping with your wives and daughters because I put on a dress and claim to be trans? Of course not, you'd be uncomfortable as hell. But if course these days nobody can admit that, for fear of offending some percieved protected group. Either take the equality you want so damn bad, or move elsewhere. If it's so damn bad here, what's keeping you here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 05/24/19 6:12:49 AM #30:	Lord_Wombat posted... If the shelter is there to help all homeless people, why would trans people require special means of help? People get so pissy when I say they only want equality when it's convenient for them, then shit like this keeps coming up and proving me right. If they have a dick, there's absolutely no reason they can't sleep with the men. Would you guys want me sleeping with your wives and daughters because I put on a dress and claim to be trans? Of course not, you'd be uncomfortable as hell. But if course these days nobody can admit that, for fear of offending some percieved protected group. Either take the equality you want so damn bad, or move elsewhere. If it's so damn bad here, what's keeping you here? This seems like a pretty emotional response given that this is in the first sentence of the article: The Department of Housing and Urban Development on Wednesday proposed a new rule that would weaken Obama-era protections for homeless transgender people, allowing federally funded shelters to deny people admission on religious grounds --- Sigful user. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:922305254] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Wombat posted...</cite> <quote>If the shelter is there to help all homeless people, why would trans people require special means of help? People get so pissy when I say they only want equality when it's convenient for them, then shit like this keeps coming up and proving me right. If they have a dick, there's absolutely no reason they can't sleep with the men. Would you guys want me sleeping with your wives and daughters because I put on a dress and claim to be trans? Of course not, you'd be uncomfortable as hell. But if course these days nobody can admit that, for fear of offending some percieved protected group. Either take the equality you want so damn bad, or move elsewhere. If it's so damn bad here, what's keeping you here?</quote> This seems like a pretty emotional response given that this is in the first sentence of the article: The Department of Housing and Urban Development on Wednesday proposed a new rule that would weaken Obama-era protections for homeless transgender people, allowing federally funded shelters to deny people admission on religious grounds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davidg4l 05/24/19 6:23:09 AM #31:	Separation of church and state should be mandatory. Religious views should not cloud one's role as public servant. --- Trigonometry is a math subject consisting of the study of triangles which can be briefly explained with the equation : Mind = Blown <cite>davidg4l posted [p:922305396] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Separation of church and state should be mandatory. Religious views should not cloud one's role as public servant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 05/24/19 6:50:53 AM #32:	Lord_Wombat posted... If the shelter is there to help all homeless people, why would trans people require special means of help? People get so pissy when I say they only want equality when it's convenient for them, then shit like this keeps coming up and proving me right. If they have a dick, there's absolutely no reason they can't sleep with the men. Would you guys want me sleeping with your wives and daughters because I put on a dress and claim to be trans? Of course not, you'd be uncomfortable as hell. But if course these days nobody can admit that, for fear of offending some percieved protected group. Either take the equality you want so damn bad, or move elsewhere. If it's so damn bad here, what's keeping you here? People have been killed just because they were trans. BUT WHY DO THEY NEED HELP!?>!? Smh And as someone said, there's no separation of church and state anymore. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:922305795] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Wombat posted...</cite> <quote>If the shelter is there to help all homeless people, why would trans people require special means of help? People get so pissy when I say they only want equality when it's convenient for them, then shit like this keeps coming up and proving me right. If they have a dick, there's absolutely no reason they can't sleep with the men. Would you guys want me sleeping with your wives and daughters because I put on a dress and claim to be trans? Of course not, you'd be uncomfortable as hell. But if course these days nobody can admit that, for fear of offending some percieved protected group. Either take the equality you want so damn bad, or move elsewhere. If it's so damn bad here, what's keeping you here?</quote> People have been killed just because they were trans. BUT WHY DO THEY NEED HELP!?>!? Smh And as someone said, there's no separation of church and state anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 05/24/19 7:07:10 AM #33:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... People have been killed just because they were trans. Not denying that, however in this case its irrelevant. Besides, what about the African Americans being killed because theyre black? What about females getting raped and killed? What about the homeless that get abused on the streets? What about areas where whites are the minority and get harassed/killed? Every group has issues, and none are any more importent than any other. Again, equality means we all recieve the same help, selective protection will do nothing but make the group even more of a target. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... And as someone said, there's no separation of church and state anymore. I've been saying this for 2 decades now. It won't be getting better anytime soon. --- "In the end we're all dicks".-ReiderAsmadi Candy, tastes like chicken if chicken was a candy -Toki Wartooth <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:922306068] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>People have been killed just because they were trans. </quote> Not denying that, however in this case its irrelevant. Besides, what about the African Americans being killed because theyre black? What about females getting raped and killed? What about the homeless that get abused on the streets? What about areas where whites are the minority and get harassed/killed? Every group has issues, and none are any more importent than any other. Again, equality means we all recieve the same help, selective protection will do nothing but make the group even more of a target. <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>And as someone said, there's no separation of church and state anymore.</quote> I've been saying this for 2 decades now. It won't be getting better anytime soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/24/19 10:20:00 AM #34:	davidg4l posted... Separation of church and state should be mandatory. Religious views should not cloud one's role as public servant. Sure, but don't be surprised when religious organizations don't bother with homeless shelters and community outreach any more. Of course, why they have to suckle on the federal teat to do so is itself another question. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922310471] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>davidg4l posted...</cite> <quote>Separation of church and state should be mandatory. Religious views should not cloud one's role as public servant.</quote> Sure, but don't be surprised when religious organizations don't bother with homeless shelters and community outreach any more. Of course, why they have to suckle on the federal teat to do so is itself another question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/24/19 11:14:50 AM #35:	Shablagoo posted... PleaseClap posted... I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want first of all, how dare you My lust for power knows no bounds Shablagoo posted... This seems like a pretty emotional response given that this is in the first sentence of the article: The Department of Housing and Urban Development on Wednesday proposed a new rule that would weaken Obama-era protections for homeless transgender people, allowing federally funded shelters to deny people admission on religious grounds Yeah, his post was...wild, to say the least. Im not really seeing how not allowing trans people into a homeless shelter is equality. --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922312341] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want</quote> first of all, how dare you</quote> My lust for power knows no bounds <cite>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote> This seems like a pretty emotional response given that this is in the first sentence of the article: The Department of Housing and Urban Development on Wednesday proposed a new rule that would weaken Obama-era protections for homeless transgender people, allowing federally funded shelters to deny people admission on religious grounds</quote> Yeah, his post was...wild, to say the least. Im not really seeing how not allowing trans people into a homeless shelter is equality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/25/19 5:41:59 PM #36:	PleaseClap posted... I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922364590] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>I'll bump this again because it's my topic and I do what I want</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 05/25/19 5:49:08 PM #37:	holy shit this is awful --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:922364835] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>holy shit this is awful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill2000 05/25/19 8:16:34 PM #38:	0xDEFECADE posted... holy shit this is awful It certainly has bad optics, but the Trump administration may still do something good with this. We don't have enough information yet to make a good judgment. --- CE's source of sage-ly advice Not changing this signature until the Buffalo Bills win the 2019 Super Bowl <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted [p:922369906] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>holy shit this is awful</quote> It certainly has bad optics, but the Trump administration may still do something good with this. We don't have enough information yet to make a good judgment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/25/19 8:17:16 PM #39:	Again, you really don't have to do this in every topic --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922369926] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote>Again, you really don't have to do this in every topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 05/25/19 8:17:51 PM #40:	PleaseClap posted... Again, you really don't have to do this in every topic honestly he amuses me lol --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:922369945] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Again, you really don't have to do this in every topic</quote> honestly he amuses me lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 05/25/19 8:50:22 PM #41:	TheRealDill2000 posted... 0xDEFECADE posted... holy shit this is awful It certainly has bad optics, but the Trump administration may still do something good with this. We don't have enough information yet to make a good judgment. What other information would you like? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:922371033] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>holy shit this is awful</quote> It certainly has bad optics, but the Trump administration may still do something good with this. We don't have enough information yet to make a good judgment.</quote> What other information would you like?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/25/19 10:31:53 PM #42:	0xDEFECADE posted... PleaseClap posted... Again, you really don't have to do this in every topic honestly he amuses me lol guess we'll agree to disagree --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922374606] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Again, you really don't have to do this in every topic</quote> honestly he amuses me lol</quote> guess we'll agree to disagree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/26/19 12:46:44 PM #43:	Ruvan22 posted... TheRealDill2000 posted... 0xDEFECADE posted... holy shit this is awful It certainly has bad optics, but the Trump administration may still do something good with this. We don't have enough information yet to make a good judgment. What other information would you like? I think hes already made up his mind --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922393429] in Proposed H... [t:77734420]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>holy shit this is awful</quote> It certainly has bad optics, but the Trump administration may still do something good with this. We don't have enough information yet to make a good judgment.</quote> What other information would you like?</quote> I think hes already made up his mind</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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