Current Events > Brian Kemp is blocking 53K voters from registering. Most of them are black.

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Tmaster148 10/10/18 10:51:02 PM #1:	https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/brian-kemp-is-blocking-53k-applicants-from-registering-to-vote-most-of-them-black Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemps (R) office is blocking 53,000 people from registering to vote, according to records obtained by the Associated Press, a huge number that could sway his gubernatorial race against Democrat Stacey Abrams. As TPM laid out this morning, Kemp has used a controversial exact match program to approve or block voter registrations that disproportionately impacts minority voters. Now we know exactly how many people that might affect this election. According to the AP, fully 70 percent of the voter applications that are being held up by Kemps office are from black people. Its unclear how many of these voters will be able to get on the rolls by Election Day. People whose registrations are still pending have 26 months to correct the problem, and get one notice by mail advising them of the issue. They can still vote in-person provided they present a drivers license or other form of photo ID, something that minorities are less likely to have, or cast a provisional vote and return within three days with valid proof of identification. The secretary of state has waged a years-long battle against voting rights groups in the state, regularly going after minority voter registration efforts, while purging voting rolls and making it harder for many people to vote. This figure shows how much impact that could have. Georgia Gov. Nathan Deals (R) 8-point reelection margin in 2014 was just 200,000 votes total. Abrams and Kemp have been statistically tied in most public and private polls. Whether or not these voters get on the rolls could determine who wins the election. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910325528] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/brian-kemp-is-blocking-53k-applicants-from-registering-to-vote-most-of-them-black <quote>Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemps (R) office is blocking 53,000 people from registering to vote, according to records obtained by the Associated Press, a huge number that could sway his gubernatorial race against Democrat Stacey Abrams. As TPM laid out this morning, Kemp has used a controversial exact match program to approve or block voter registrations that disproportionately impacts minority voters. Now we know exactly how many people that might affect this election. According to the AP, fully 70 percent of the voter applications that are being held up by Kemps office are from black people. Its unclear how many of these voters will be able to get on the rolls by Election Day. People whose registrations are still pending have 26 months to correct the problem, and get one notice by mail advising them of the issue. They can still vote in-person provided they present a drivers license or other form of photo ID, something that minorities are less likely to have, or cast a provisional vote and return within three days with valid proof of identification. The secretary of state has waged a years-long battle against voting rights groups in the state, regularly going after minority voter registration efforts, while purging voting rolls and making it harder for many people to vote. This figure shows how much impact that could have. Georgia Gov. Nathan Deals (R) 8-point reelection margin in 2014 was just 200,000 votes total. Abrams and Kemp have been statistically tied in most public and private polls. Whether or not these voters get on the rolls could determine who wins the election.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 10/10/18 10:52:53 PM #2:	Southern republican putting down minorities, what else is new --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (3-2): https://imgur.com/XZuJMNR <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:910325625] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Southern republican putting down minorities, what else is new</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 10/10/18 10:54:04 PM #3:	It's almost like a candidate for governor shouldn't have control over the voter rolls... <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:910325682] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like a candidate for governor shouldn't have control over the voter rolls...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 10/10/18 10:58:37 PM #4:	In 2018 people are still complaining that showing id is racist and oppressive --- https://imgur.com/gWCYPlD https://imgur.com/J9kjYjA https://imgur.com/Ls3OgWR <cite>Awesome posted [p:910325914] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>In 2018 people are still complaining that showing id is racist and oppressive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/10/18 11:01:14 PM #5:	Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? <cite>nemu posted [p:910326048] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 10/10/18 11:02:41 PM #6:	nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Liberals think that everything they believe is something everybody should follow --- https://imgur.com/gWCYPlD https://imgur.com/J9kjYjA https://imgur.com/Ls3OgWR <cite>Awesome posted [p:910326129] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Liberals think that everything they believe is something everybody should follow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/10/18 11:05:22 PM #7:	Skip the whole registering and voter ID thing. Get rid of districts and gerrymandering. One person, one vote. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910326242] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Skip the whole registering and voter ID thing. Get rid of districts and gerrymandering. One person, one vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 10/10/18 11:05:28 PM #8:	Awesome posted... In 2018 people are still complaining that showing id is racist and oppressive Why does such a shit poster have such an ironic name? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:910326248] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>In 2018 people are still complaining that showing id is racist and oppressive</quote> Why does such a shit poster have such an ironic name?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 10/10/18 11:06:23 PM #9:	nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910326290] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbreakable 10/10/18 11:08:32 PM #10:	Awesome posted... nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Liberals think that everything they believe is something everybody should follow This is ironic, coming from a Trump apologist --- But Wait... there's more <cite>Unbreakable posted [p:910326381] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Liberals think that everything they believe is something everybody should follow</quote> This is ironic, coming from a Trump apologist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/10/18 11:11:14 PM #11:	Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID. In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race? <cite>nemu posted [p:910326514] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID.</quote> In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/10/18 11:12:29 PM #12:	nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? To liberals if there is a disparity in outcome, no matter the circumstances, it has to be proof of opression. Personal choice, actions, and effort should never be considered in determining if discrimination is at fault for said disparity. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910326564] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> To liberals if there is a disparity in outcome, no matter the circumstances, it has to be proof of opression. Personal choice, actions, and effort should never be considered in determining if discrimination is at fault for said disparity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 10/10/18 11:12:30 PM #13:	nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID. In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race? Accessibility is a major issue. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:910326566] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID.</quote> In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race?</quote> Accessibility is a major issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 10/10/18 11:20:32 PM #14:	nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID. In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race? SSN isn't an actual ID despite it's use as one. People can lose their birth certificates due to no fault of their own. Like their parents losing it on them. It's also not an easy process to get a replacement either. But ultimately voter ID laws are struck down, because the voter id bills target IDs that certain groups generally use and not allowing them and shutting down DMVs in areas of those groups to force them to have to make a huge trip to a DMV to get a correct ID. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910326949] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID.</quote> In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race?</quote> SSN isn't an actual ID despite it's use as one. People can lose their birth certificates due to no fault of their own. Like their parents losing it on them. It's also not an easy process to get a replacement either. But ultimately voter ID laws are struck down, because the voter id bills target IDs that certain groups generally use and not allowing them and shutting down DMVs in areas of those groups to force them to have to make a huge trip to a DMV to get a correct ID.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 10/10/18 11:28:07 PM #15:	People like to make excuses all the time, after election day they have a whole year until the next election day but they dont get the id then complain that its discriminatory once officials require an id to vote. But these lunatics think that getting an id is just for voting when you need an id now in 2018 for a long of things, how they live normal lives without an id in america i have no idea. Even illegal immigrants in america in some areas where they give a form of ids get one, but citizens just say its damn racist and a voter tax when they want proof of who you are. No personal accountability. --- https://imgur.com/gWCYPlD https://imgur.com/J9kjYjA https://imgur.com/Ls3OgWR <cite>Awesome posted [p:910327260] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>People like to make excuses all the time, after election day they have a whole year until the next election day but they dont get the id then complain that its discriminatory once officials require an id to vote. But these lunatics think that getting an id is just for voting when you need an id now in 2018 for a long of things, how they live normal lives without an id in america i have no idea. Even illegal immigrants in america in some areas where they give a form of ids get one, but citizens just say its damn racist and a voter tax when they want proof of who you are. No personal accountability.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbreakable 10/10/18 11:29:04 PM #16:	@Awesome You never answered @0AbsoluteZero0 s question about whether you wear a diaper or have your mother just clean up the messy sheets in the morning --- But Wait... there's more <cite>Unbreakable posted [p:910327301] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>@Awesome You never answered @0AbsoluteZero0 s question about whether you wear a diaper or have your mother just clean up the messy sheets in the morning</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/10/18 11:29:15 PM #17:	Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID. In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race? SSN isn't an actual ID despite it's use as one. People can lose their birth certificates due to no fault of their own. Like their parents losing it on them. It's also not an easy process to get a replacement either. But ultimately voter ID laws are struck down, because the voter id bills target IDs that certain groups generally use and not allowing them and shutting down DMVs in areas of those groups to force them to have to make a huge trip to a DMV to get a correct ID. Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. <cite>nemu posted [p:910327311] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID.</quote> In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race?</quote> SSN isn't an actual ID despite it's use as one. People can lose their birth certificates due to no fault of their own. Like their parents losing it on them. It's also not an easy process to get a replacement either. But ultimately voter ID laws are struck down, because the voter id bills target IDs that certain groups generally use and not allowing them and shutting down DMVs in areas of those groups to force them to have to make a huge trip to a DMV to get a correct ID.</quote> Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 10/10/18 11:31:26 PM #18:	nemu posted... Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910327408] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. </quote> https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 10/10/18 11:34:32 PM #19:	Voter ID laws are usually combined with closing polling stations or making them inaccessible or steps to make obtaining an ID more difficult or steps to make using your ID more difficult So yeah, this stuff that Republicans shill out mysteriously around every election time is horse shit --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:910327571] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Voter ID laws are usually combined with closing polling stations or making them inaccessible or steps to make obtaining an ID more difficult or steps to make using your ID more difficult So yeah, this stuff that Republicans shill out mysteriously around every election time is horse shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 10/10/18 11:34:51 PM #20:	You dont have to go to the dmv to get an id, you can get a passport card at a post office. More excuses to blame non-liberals for their inaction. --- https://imgur.com/gWCYPlD https://imgur.com/J9kjYjA https://imgur.com/Ls3OgWR <cite>Awesome posted [p:910327589] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>You dont have to go to the dmv to get an id, you can get a passport card at a post office. More excuses to blame non-liberals for their inaction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbreakable 10/10/18 11:36:03 PM #21:	Let's also acknowledge that there's little to no reason for voter ID laws. Trump had extensive investigations done which turned up jack shit for voter fraud. It's just a stupid boogeyman --- But Wait... there's more <cite>Unbreakable posted [p:910327638] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Let's also acknowledge that there's little to no reason for voter ID laws. Trump had extensive investigations done which turned up jack shit for voter fraud. It's just a stupid boogeyman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 10/10/18 11:36:10 PM #22:	I'm sorry, Awesome, but I just can't take you seriously since you mentioned that thing about the bed lol I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just can't lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:910327645] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry, Awesome, but I just can't take you seriously since you mentioned that thing about the bed lol I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just can't lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unbreakable 10/10/18 11:38:08 PM #24:	Doom_Art posted... I'm sorry, Awesome, but I just can't take you seriously since you mentioned that thing about the bed lol I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just can't lol It's great that @Awesome shitting the bed has become a CE meme --- But Wait... there's more <cite>Unbreakable posted [p:910327734] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry, Awesome, but I just can't take you seriously since you mentioned that thing about the bed lol I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just can't lol</quote> It's great that @Awesome shitting the bed has become a CE meme </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/10/18 11:38:53 PM #25:	Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening. <cite>nemu posted [p:910327774] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. </quote> https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law</quote> What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 10/10/18 11:39:38 PM #26:	Doom_Art posted... I'm sorry, Awesome, but I just can't take you seriously since you mentioned that thing about the bed lol I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just can't lol You are a smart person, you can admit that i never said i shit the bed. Lets be real here, a lot of users on this board are psychotic and have ocd that would shock the best mental health professionals. --- https://imgur.com/gWCYPlD https://imgur.com/J9kjYjA https://imgur.com/Ls3OgWR <cite>Awesome posted [p:910327810] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry, Awesome, but I just can't take you seriously since you mentioned that thing about the bed lol I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just can't lol</quote> You are a smart person, you can admit that i never said i shit the bed. Lets be real here, a lot of users on this board are psychotic and have ocd that would shock the best mental health professionals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/10/18 11:41:07 PM #27:	Republicans need to keep control of both the house and the Senate. It doesn't matter how they win. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:910327875] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Republicans need to keep control of both the house and the Senate. It doesn't matter how they win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/10/18 11:41:15 PM #28:	Awesome posted... But these lunatics think that getting an id is just for voting when you need an id now in 2018 for a long of things, how they live normal lives without an id in america i have no idea. I literally haven't had to pull out my ID once in the past few years since I started looking old enough to not have to be carded for alcohol. People keep spreading this lie for some reason <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910327879] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>But these lunatics think that getting an id is just for voting when you need an id now in 2018 for a long of things, how they live normal lives without an id in america i have no idea.</quote> I literally haven't had to pull out my ID once in the past few years since I started looking old enough to not have to be carded for alcohol. People keep spreading this lie for some reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/10/18 11:41:46 PM #30:	Well... this one took a strange turn. nevermind <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:910327907] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Well... this one took a strange turn. nevermind</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 10/10/18 11:45:06 PM #31:	nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening. The problem is that voter ID laws are adding on things to make it intentionally harder for certain groups to get the proper ID. And the people crafting these laws are using data to specifically target certain groups. That's why people have a problem with the laws. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910328054] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. </quote> https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law</quote> What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening.</quote> The problem is that voter ID laws are adding on things to make it intentionally harder for certain groups to get the proper ID. And the people crafting these laws are using data to specifically target certain groups. That's why people have a problem with the laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 10/10/18 11:46:52 PM #33:	CrimsonRage posted... if you want to make ids mandatory, you better make it easier to get them. I would even argue a federal id would be the starting point. Since it's a standard for the entire country and would make it harder for the situation of states being selective on IDs to omit certain groups. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910328132] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>if you want to make ids mandatory, you better make it easier to get them.</quote> I would even argue a federal id would be the starting point. Since it's a standard for the entire country and would make it harder for the situation of states being selective on IDs to omit certain groups.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/11/18 12:10:45 AM #34:	nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening. i can give an anecdotal example in college i let my drivers license lapse, i didn't drive and to be honest i just forgot. realized that could be a problem, so i road the bus to the DMV (which is a bitch in and of itself), waited in line for 2 hours, and got to the desk only to find out that i needed 2 (might have been 3, cant remember) forms of id to get my license and my SSID didn't count (which is fucking hilarious). besides a birth certificate (something easily lost), i had the choice of bill statements (which someone homeless wouldn't have), a bank statement (which someone poor/homeless is not necessarily going to have), or a state ID card which requires the above documents to get... oh and i think passport was a possibility. i had to spend two days jumping through hoops for an ID i couldn't make use of. if i didn't have the free time to do it, something someone working 2+ jobs will not have, i'd have completely skipped getting it. --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:910329110] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. </quote> https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law</quote> What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening.</quote> i can give an anecdotal example in college i let my drivers license lapse, i didn't drive and to be honest i just forgot. realized that could be a problem, so i road the bus to the DMV (which is a bitch in and of itself), waited in line for 2 hours, and got to the desk only to find out that i needed 2 (might have been 3, cant remember) forms of id to get my license and my SSID didn't count (which is fucking hilarious). besides a birth certificate (something easily lost), i had the choice of bill statements (which someone homeless wouldn't have), a bank statement (which someone poor/homeless is not necessarily going to have), or a state ID card which requires the above documents to get... oh and i think passport was a possibility. i had to spend two days jumping through hoops for an ID i couldn't make use of. if i didn't have the free time to do it, something someone working 2+ jobs will not have, i'd have completely skipped getting it.</quote> ... 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Howl 10/11/18 12:48:25 AM #35:	monkmith posted... nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening. i can give an anecdotal example in college i let my drivers license lapse, i didn't drive and to be honest i just forgot. realized that could be a problem, so i road the bus to the DMV (which is a bitch in and of itself), waited in line for 2 hours, and got to the desk only to find out that i needed 2 (might have been 3, cant remember) forms of id to get my license and my SSID didn't count (which is fucking hilarious). besides a birth certificate (something easily lost), i had the choice of bill statements (which someone homeless wouldn't have), a bank statement (which someone poor/homeless is not necessarily going to have), or a state ID card which requires the above documents to get... oh and i think passport was a possibility. i had to spend two days jumping through hoops for an ID i couldn't make use of. if i didn't have the free time to do it, something someone working 2+ jobs will not have, i'd have completely skipped getting it. In the example you provided, you absolutely did not have to spend 2 days doing that. You went there not even knowing what to take with you, which could have been fixed by a Google search and spending 2 minutes to read what you needed to take with you. You only had to do that because you didn't think for a second, What all do I need to take with me to get my ID? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910330557] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. </quote> https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law </quote> What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening.</quote> i can give an anecdotal example in college i let my drivers license lapse, i didn't drive and to be honest i just forgot. realized that could be a problem, so i road the bus to the DMV (which is a bitch in and of itself), waited in line for 2 hours, and got to the desk only to find out that i needed 2 (might have been 3, cant remember) forms of id to get my license and my SSID didn't count (which is fucking hilarious). besides a birth certificate (something easily lost), i had the choice of bill statements (which someone homeless wouldn't have), a bank statement (which someone poor/homeless is not necessarily going to have), or a state ID card which requires the above documents to get... oh and i think passport was a possibility. i had to spend two days jumping through hoops for an ID i couldn't make use of. if i didn't have the free time to do it, something someone working 2+ jobs will not have, i'd have completely skipped getting it.</quote> In the example you provided, you absolutely did not have to spend 2 days doing that. You went there not even knowing what to take with you, which could have been fixed by a Google search and spending 2 minutes to read what you needed to take with you. You only had to do that because you didn't think for a second, What all do I need to take with me to get my ID?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/11/18 12:51:18 AM #36:	Howl posted... monkmith posted... nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening. i can give an anecdotal example in college i let my drivers license lapse, i didn't drive and to be honest i just forgot. realized that could be a problem, so i road the bus to the DMV (which is a bitch in and of itself), waited in line for 2 hours, and got to the desk only to find out that i needed 2 (might have been 3, cant remember) forms of id to get my license and my SSID didn't count (which is fucking hilarious). besides a birth certificate (something easily lost), i had the choice of bill statements (which someone homeless wouldn't have), a bank statement (which someone poor/homeless is not necessarily going to have), or a state ID card which requires the above documents to get... oh and i think passport was a possibility. i had to spend two days jumping through hoops for an ID i couldn't make use of. if i didn't have the free time to do it, something someone working 2+ jobs will not have, i'd have completely skipped getting it. In the example you provided, you absolutely did not have to spend 2 days doing that. You went there not even knowing what to take with you, which could have been fixed by a Google search and spending 2 minutes to read what you needed to take with you. You only had to do that because you didn't think for a second, What all do I need to take with me to get my ID? neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id... --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:910330654] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> Difficult, but not impossible. I understand it might be a pain, but they really should be reinforcing the idea of everyone obtaining identification anyway. And people who are interested in voting should know this is a possibility and thus be working on obtaining it. With voting cycles being far apart, there is plenty of time to get it sorted out. The only valid excuse is if they are 100+ miles from anywhere that could do it, but I'd have to imagine that is not the problem affecting the bulk of black people. It feels like we're mostly just letting laziness take hold, unless there are more specific statistics showing distance is the most prevalent issue. </quote> https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law </quote> What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. The question is if it's actually that big of a deal to get an ID. I want to know if there is some factor that is making it nearly impossible for so many people, or if it's just a cultural attitude that puts no importance on obtaining one. Is it that everyone is just crying racism and letting the status quo remain instead of enticing people to obtain them, or is it that it is really that hard for them? It's also a big problem for old people. I can understand why that could be. I don't necessarily understand it for black people at least to the extent that it is happening.</quote> i can give an anecdotal example in college i let my drivers license lapse, i didn't drive and to be honest i just forgot. realized that could be a problem, so i road the bus to the DMV (which is a bitch in and of itself), waited in line for 2 hours, and got to the desk only to find out that i needed 2 (might have been 3, cant remember) forms of id to get my license and my SSID didn't count (which is fucking hilarious). besides a birth certificate (something easily lost), i had the choice of bill statements (which someone homeless wouldn't have), a bank statement (which someone poor/homeless is not necessarily going to have), or a state ID card which requires the above documents to get... oh and i think passport was a possibility. i had to spend two days jumping through hoops for an ID i couldn't make use of. if i didn't have the free time to do it, something someone working 2+ jobs will not have, i'd have completely skipped getting it.</quote> In the example you provided, you absolutely did not have to spend 2 days doing that. You went there not even knowing what to take with you, which could have been fixed by a Google search and spending 2 minutes to read what you needed to take with you. You only had to do that because you didn't think for a second, What all do I need to take with me to get my ID?</quote> neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 10/11/18 12:57:37 AM #37:	Most of these voter ID laws will -eventually- be struck down, the country at large is catching onto them being used as suppression tools and the right is currently in a "well we don't have enough time to rectify them yet" as an excuse to use them for another election or so. The only question really is how big a buffoon people are willing to look like defending them up until that point. --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:910330882] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Most of these voter ID laws will -eventually- be struck down, the country at large is catching onto them being used as suppression tools and the right is currently in a "well we don't have enough time to rectify them yet" as an excuse to use them for another election or so. The only question really is how big a buffoon people are willing to look like defending them up until that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/11/18 12:57:48 AM #38:	monkmith posted... neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id... I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910330888] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id...</quote> I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 10/11/18 1:00:08 AM #39:	Howl posted... monkmith posted... neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id... I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time. Yes, blame him for doing what everyone on the fucking planet does when they decide to take care of something they forgot. Shut the fuck up. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:910330971] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id...</quote> I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time.</quote> Yes, blame him for doing what everyone on the fucking planet does when they decide to take care of something they forgot. Shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 10/11/18 1:00:33 AM #40:	The nuevo poll tax. Republicans know they are on the losing end of the demographics front, that's why they are trying different methods at voter suppression that targets minorities. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:910330988] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>The nuevo poll tax. Republicans know they are on the losing end of the demographics front, that's why they are trying different methods at voter suppression that targets minorities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/11/18 1:02:16 AM #41:	dave_is_slick posted... Howl posted... monkmith posted... neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id... I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time. Yes, blame him for doing what everyone on the fucking planet does when they decide to take care of something they forgot. Shut the fuck up. What? Most people are not dumb enough to go to the DMV without calling them to ask what they need to bring with them or just googling it to find out first. What planet do you live on where you make 2 hour plus trips without taking 2 minutes to be sure you have required supplies needed to fulfill the purpose of that trip? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910331049] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote> neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id... </quote> I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time.</quote> Yes, blame him for doing what everyone on the fucking planet does when they decide to take care of something they forgot. Shut the fuck up.</quote> What? Most people are not dumb enough to go to the DMV without calling them to ask what they need to bring with them or just googling it to find out first. What planet do you live on where you make 2 hour plus trips without taking 2 minutes to be sure you have required supplies needed to fulfill the purpose of that trip?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 10/11/18 1:02:41 AM #42:	dave_is_slick posted... nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID. In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race? Accessibility is a major issue. So what does that mean? --- If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all. <cite>muchdran posted [p:910331069] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID.</quote> In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race?</quote> Accessibility is a major issue.</quote> So what does that mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 10/11/18 1:12:55 AM #43:	Requiring to show your ID should be necessary. Obtaining your identification shouldnt be difficult. If Democrats are concerned so much then they should be trying to help their members get their paperwork in order. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:910331427] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote>Requiring to show your ID should be necessary. Obtaining your identification shouldnt be difficult. If Democrats are concerned so much then they should be trying to help their members get their paperwork in order.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/11/18 1:19:37 AM #44:	iPhone_7 posted... Requiring to show your ID should be necessary. Obtaining your identification shouldnt be difficult. If Democrats are concerned so much then they should be trying to help their members get their paperwork in order. It's easier to scream that something is racist online to make any actual effort to help people. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910331667] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Requiring to show your ID should be necessary. Obtaining your identification shouldnt be difficult. If Democrats are concerned so much then they should be trying to help their members get their paperwork in order.</quote> It's easier to scream that something is racist online to make any actual effort to help people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarLightGlimmR 10/11/18 1:20:32 AM #45:	Awesome posted... In 2018 people are still complaining that showing id is racist and oppressive <cite>StarLightGlimmR posted [p:910331694] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Awesome posted...</cite> <quote>In 2018 people are still complaining that showing id is racist and oppressive</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 10/11/18 1:32:53 AM #46:	iPhone_7 posted... Requiring to show your ID should be necessary. Obtaining your identification shouldnt be difficult. If Democrats are concerned so much then they should be trying to help their members get their paperwork in order. Showing your ID is required when buying a gun, or alcohol. In Australia, it's even required if you want a mobile phone. We do have voter ID cards here in Australia, but you are only required to present them if requested. I haven't been requested to present mine in almost 22 years of voting. I was going somewhere with this... be like Australia, I guess. Voting is mandatory here, make it mandatory in America. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:910332095] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Requiring to show your ID should be necessary. Obtaining your identification shouldnt be difficult. If Democrats are concerned so much then they should be trying to help their members get their paperwork in order.</quote> Showing your ID is required when buying a gun, or alcohol. In Australia, it's even required if you want a mobile phone. We do have voter ID cards here in Australia, but you are only required to present them if requested. I haven't been requested to present mine in almost 22 years of voting. I was going somewhere with this... be like Australia, I guess. Voting is mandatory here, make it mandatory in America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/11/18 1:41:04 AM #47:	nemu posted... What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. And that's bad. These laws in the US are almost universally proposed in hopes that they will suppress voting from certain demographics. That should never be allowed no matter how easy it is to jump through the hoops. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:910332313] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> What about it? I have no doubt there are people using laws to try to sway the voting. They're going to do that whenever and wherever they can. </quote> And that's bad. These laws in the US are almost universally proposed in hopes that they will suppress voting from certain demographics. That should never be allowed no matter how easy it is to jump through the hoops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 10/11/18 1:45:24 AM #48:	nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? if they need ID, then how else are illegals going to stuff the ballot boxes? --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:910332425] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> if they need ID, then how else are illegals going to stuff the ballot boxes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 10/11/18 1:46:08 AM #49:	muchdran posted... dave_is_slick posted... nemu posted... Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people? Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID. In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race? Accessibility is a major issue. So what does that mean? the system is racist and the white man doesnt want them having drivers licenses....get with the program dude, its ALWAYS the white man stopping them --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:910332445] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>muchdran posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is getting a non-license ID some kind of major hurdle or something? Why is this an issue? Why is it a bad thing to want to identify people?</quote> Because generally the voter ID laws are combined with a push to make it harder for certain groups to obtain the right ID. If you want Voter ID laws so bad, you also have to make it easy for anyone to get the ID.</quote> In what way is it so hard to get an ID? Generally, shouldn't it be social/birth certificate/etc, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and then you're off to the races? What barriers are they facing that has to do with race?</quote> Accessibility is a major issue.</quote> So what does that mean?</quote> the system is racist and the white man doesnt want them having drivers licenses....get with the program dude, its ALWAYS the white man stopping them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 10/11/18 6:24:30 PM #50:	Howl posted... dave_is_slick posted... Howl posted... monkmith posted... neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id... I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time. Yes, blame him for doing what everyone on the fucking planet does when they decide to take care of something they forgot. Shut the fuck up. What? Most people are not dumb enough to go to the DMV without calling them to ask what they need to bring with them or just googling it to find out first. What planet do you live on where you make 2 hour plus trips without taking 2 minutes to be sure you have required supplies needed to fulfill the purpose of that trip? You STILL ignored the rest of his post.. about how difficult obtaining some of those documents can be depending on your life circumstances. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:910368381] in Brian Kemp... [t:77086863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote> neat, you read maybe the first sentence and completely disregarded the other points just to act like you've won the argument. added bit, i did actually have a bank statement the first day. but it wasn't the most recent and thus was rejected as a valid form of id... </quote> I read the entire post. Nothing in your post makes anything I said any less valid in any way. You weren't required to waste an entire day going to the DMV only to be denied because you didn't have the required documents for your license. That was your own stupidity that was the cause of that waste of time.</quote> Yes, blame him for doing what everyone on the fucking planet does when they decide to take care of something they forgot. Shut the fuck up.</quote> What? Most people are not dumb enough to go to the DMV without calling them to ask what they need to bring with them or just googling it to find out first. What planet do you live on where you make 2 hour plus trips without taking 2 minutes to be sure you have required supplies needed to fulfill the purpose of that trip?</quote> You STILL ignored the rest of his post.. about how difficult obtaining some of those documents can be depending on your life circumstances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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