Current Events > are millenials killing religion too?

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god i hope so
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Science help us

NBA posted...

Science help us

wtf how did no one take that name until 2015
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NBA posted...

Science help us

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also frivolous
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Religion deserved to be killed.

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Why do you keep talking about my hat and beard...?
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Science and spirituality can co-exist. In fact, I think an argument can be made that there's a link between the abandonment of spirituality, and the rise of depression and mental issues.
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We can only hope.
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You would have to kill billions of people to wipe out Islam alone.

Religion isn't going anywhere.
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Sir Will posted...

We can only hope.

Vindris_SNH posted...

Science and spirituality can co-exist. In fact, I think an argument can be made that there's a link between the abandonment of spirituality, and the rise of depression and mental issues.

Religion in and of itself isn't exactly wrong (though I personally do not believe that anything awaits you after you die, your consciousness is just going to evaporate when you're dead, sorry) but all the secular baggage that it has brought with it driven by personal ambition, greed, and agendas has ruined any chance of it being valid in this day and age of rational and scientific thinking.

It's fine if you want to give yourself hope for what lies beyond this life, true or not, but infusing it with hatred for gays, racism, politics, and all the other stuff that has zero basis in any belief system and is only motivated by brainwashing people into accepting a certain viewpoint is unacceptable. The fact anyone can do this while still claiming their "faith" gives them a higher moral ground and makes them a good person is even more disgusting.
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Science and spirituality can co-exist. In fact, I think an argument can be made that there's a link between the abandonment of spirituality, and the rise of depression and mental issues.

Spirituality and religion are far from mutually inclusive.

Or just priests' careers?
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Religious nutjobs are killing religion.
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I'm not happy that there is no meaning to life and that success in this life has no value beyond your death (unless it leaves a legacy that matters in some other way to humanity) but for me it is just ugly reality.

You die, your thoughts and memories go with it, your shit gets passed onto your ungrateful children, and that's the end of it.
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Nah.
Mass abandonment of, uh, mass, started a couple or three generations ago, with hippies.

Hopefully.
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No_U_L7 posted...

NBA posted...

Science help us

wtf how did no one take that name until 2015

When you believe in science anything is possible

Religion will very slowly phase out since we're learning a lot more and realizing how tiny we are relative to just the OBSERVABLE universe.

Millennials are 30+ too now, just a reminder.
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In first world countries what you're seeing is more people becoming irreligious, basically it's enough to say that you believe in god instead of doing the stupid rituals like going to church every sunday or reading the bible. Of course, most people who become irreligious eventually become agnostic and finally to being atheist because more people are seeing the light just how man made religion is in general.
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Prestoff posted...

In first world countries what you're seeing is more people becoming irreligious, basically it's enough to say that you believe in god instead of doing the stupid rituals like going to church every sunday or reading the bible. Of course, most people who become irreligious eventually become agnostic and finally to being atheist because more people are seeing the light just how man made religion is in general.

please don't tell me irreligious is an actual phrase...
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Organized religion

Belief in the supernatural is alive and well
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I don't think agnosticism necessarily leads to atheism.

Even I, as cynical as I am about religion, don't actively protest and push the idea of a godless universe. To me anyone doing that is just as bad as the converse. You don't NEED to accept that you have nothing waiting for you beyond the grave. There's no merit in driving that fact in like a stake just the same as insisting someone accept Jesus Christ as the savior and way to eternal life is equally as unnecessary to continue living a meaningful life in what time you have.

I inform people that I think their belief is not grounded in reality, sure, but I end it there. If they want to continue believing that one's existence is not tied to life on this planet, they're free to.
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Bananana posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Science and spirituality can co-exist. In fact, I think an argument can be made that there's a link between the abandonment of spirituality, and the rise of depression and mental issues.

Spirituality and religion are far from mutually inclusive.

But there's a very strong connection, and I think the modern stigma against religion is causing people to avoid spirituality altogether.
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Religion is one thing millennials cant kill fast enough.
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How many atheists ITT are actually anti-theists?
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Lol at the fedora tipping in here.
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Bananana posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Science and spirituality can co-exist. In fact, I think an argument can be made that there's a link between the abandonment of spirituality, and the rise of depression and mental issues.

Spirituality and religion are far from mutually inclusive.

But there's a very strong connection, and I think the modern stigma against religion is causing people to avoid spirituality altogether.

Ayahuasca.

When people say things like "look at the earth in comparison to the observable universe, we don't matter at all", even though they try to use it as an an argument against religion it is very much an anti-spirituality stance.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

When people say things like "look at the earth in comparison to the observable universe, we don't matter at all", even though they try to use it as an an argument against religion it is very much an anti-spirituality stance.

You can relax and have a "zen point of view" while still realizing that importance is something we made up.

No_U_L7 posted...

please don't tell me irreligious is an actual phrase...

Yeah, I didn't word it right at all and even then it's more anecdotal evidence than anything. Most atheists I knew growing up in a pretty religious town went through the same phases as me before becoming atheists ourselves. It's different for everybody dependent on their environment.

I inform people that I think their belief is not grounded in reality, sure, but I end it there. If they want to continue believing that one's existence is not tied to life on this planet, they're free to.

That's basically every atheists in real life ever unless they're hardcore anti-theists.

Dyinglegacy posted...

Lol at the fedora tipping in here.

I honestly really find it funny when people equate fedora's to atheism because it makes absolutely no sense. It just sounds like to me someone posts that term down because they don't like their religion getting made fun of or criticized.
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Prestoff posted...

I honestly really find it funny when people equate fedora's to atheism because it makes absolutely no sense. It just sounds like to me someone posts that term down because they don't like their religion getting made fun of or criticized.

I usually equate the response to people who think that anyone who criticizes religion is just making a "hot take" that has long since stopped being hot.

To that I say if the criticism from that long ago then we wouldn't have to make it now, no?
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SolidSonicEX posted...

To that I say if the criticism from that long ago then we wouldn't have to make it now, no?

What?
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No_U_L7 posted...

NBA posted...

Science help us

wtf how did no one take that name until 2015

idk

Religion is killing religion.

Also tc so angsty.
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Herugrim posted...

You would have to kill billions of people to wipe out Islam alone.

Religion isn't going anywhere.

This.

There's also more religious young people than there are non religious. People on the internet just think otherwise because they're interacting with people who are more likely to be nonreligious while religious youth are usually out with their friends, working charity events/community service and just generally living life
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C, final answer
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Prestoff posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

To that I say if the criticism from that long ago then we wouldn't have to make it now, no?

What?

Sorry, that thought was incomplete. I meant to say To that I say if the criticism from that long ago had actually had any effect we wouldnt have to make it now, no?
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Perascamin posted...

There's also more religious young people than there are non religious. People on the internet just think otherwise because they're interacting with people who are more likely to be nonreligious while religious youth are usually out with their friends, working charity events/community service and just generally living life

Around the world yeah, in many parts of first world countries "religious" isn't a very accurate word to describe a lot of young people. Church activities like attending Sunday masses are lower than they were in the past even when our population keeps going up. What we're seeing is a lot more millenials and gen z are irreligious, they're religion by name but don't actively participate in religious activities. But while I don't have hard numbers, I would probably agree with you with the community service/charity events. There's a local church nearby where I live that I help on a weekly basis whether it's a food bank, planting trees, packing food, repairing houses free, etc. I'm an atheist but I do appreciate many churches who actively do community services like this (fun fact, its also where I met my wife).

SolidSonicEX posted...

Sorry, that thought was incomplete. I meant to say To that I say if the criticism from that long ago had actually had any effect we wouldnt have to make it now, no?

Fair enough, I'm also guilty of not typing a complete thought at times as well.

That could literally apply to any arguments ever then. There's probably someone out there who regurgitated the same argument that you made, that still doesn't answer what fedora tipping has to do with it and why it's always equated to atheism. I could understand people calling certain bad arguments as petty or "edgy" like "Religion is the root cause of all evils" or "Atheists are smarter than religious people", but to equating Atheism to a fedora tipping doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Atheism has no dogma or ideology, it's literally just an answer to one question "do you believe in God/gods?" A simple yes or no. There's nothing in atheism that requires for you to wear a fedora or any of that sort.

With that said, I can understand about atheism not being a "hot topic" anymore, since I've seen the progression on youtube of the many atheist youtubers now transitioned over to being anti-sjw's. The religious right doesn't have the strength they used to have nor do they bring in as much viewers as they did back when the internet was in its infancy. Sjw's pose a bigger problem because we can actually see their progression from people of higher power like the entertainment industry and politics.
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SaithSayer posted...

Ayahuasca

This isn't a place for truth brother
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Nope
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Prestoff posted...

No_U_L7 posted...

please don't tell me irreligious is an actual phrase...

Yeah, I didn't word it right at all and even then it's more anecdotal evidence than anything. Most atheists I knew growing up in a pretty religious town went through the same phases as me before becoming atheists ourselves. It's different for everybody dependent on their environment.

I inform people that I think their belief is not grounded in reality, sure, but I end it there. If they want to continue believing that one's existence is not tied to life on this planet, they're free to.

That's basically every atheists in real life ever unless they're hardcore anti-theists.

Dyinglegacy posted...

Lol at the fedora tipping in here.

I honestly really find it funny when people equate fedora's to atheism because it makes absolutely no sense. It just sounds like to me someone posts that term down because they don't like their religion getting made fun of or criticized.

*Tips fedora

Responses like can't kill it fast enough or hurry it up are totally something a fedora would say lol.

If the fedora fits...
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Dyinglegacy posted...

*Tips fedora

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Nietzsche said that God was dead over 100 years ago dude.
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I think it's more that traditional religion is gradually losing its place as the necessary social adhesive.

Dyinglegacy posted...

Responses like can't kill it fast enough or hurry it up are totally something a fedora would say lol.

Yet people always seem to equate that to atheist responses, but not to other responses like Christians making claims that atheists are miserable with no purpose in life. They don't call that a fedora response, but simply an "edgy" or "ignorant" response, so why can't that be on atheists who make those comments as well?

Dragonblade01 posted...

I think it's more that traditional religion is gradually losing its place as the necessary social adhesive.

That's also true, religion back then was the answer to the unknown. With how much knowledge has been gained throughout the centuries, religion can't really provide answers because we know many of them to be false. At best religion provides psychological comfort like the idea of an afterlife or a way for people to do good deeds because they will ultimately get rewarded by a higher being.
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Not enough unfortunately
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