Board 8 > Tiny toon adventures mafia topic 5- Invading Your TV!

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The Playerlist
1. Alakazamtrainer
2. Ashetan
3. ChaosTonyV4
4. ColZach
5. Corrik
6. DoomTheGyarados (Chris)
7. FakeAccount3000
8. Forceful_Dragon
9. IfGodCouldDie
10. Meow1000 (Blade)
11. Nanahara715
12. pjbasis
13. red13n
14. TheSultanOfSlam

THE DEAD
[LD1] 5tarscream - Elmyra Duff, TINYTOON Hugger
[NK1] masterplum - Dizzy Devil, TINYTOON Dizzy

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day will end Tuesday at 11pm EST.
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Hi FD you missed a lot.
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Corrik posted...[D1, T1, P448]

So does sultan just have a bad way with words? I feel like almost every post I could be like... What does that mean...

Ironically you picked a very poor way to express that thought.

And I think the issue with Sultan's word choice isn't that you don't know what it means, but that the more obvious meanings paint him in a very negative light. Such as him saying Chris could be useful to "keep around".

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...[D1, T1, P453]

MZero11 posted...

It is, but you implied you either A) have enough leverage to lynch him when he has like no votes or suspicion on him or B) you're scum

Or C) you are town but have a killing power

So you are saying i could be anything good job detective you cracked the case lol

That's not "anything" though. And it's really just B or C because you clearly don't have A which doesn't leave a lot of room for you to phrasing that from a town perspective.

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Corrik posted...[D1, T1, P465]

Honestly, I do not blame plum. If FFD was scanned town via the host in bold, I would still probably not ever listen to him/or trust his analysis. He made it extremely clear after last game in the post game that he has an extreme, let me think how to phrase this nicely, failure when it unfortunately comes to making logical conclusions.

Umm, what the hell does this even mean? What did we even talk about in the post game of Blade Mafia that would lead you to say that? I consider myself to be a very logical person so this is a claim I actually take quite personally.

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Corrik posted...[D1, T2, P005]

masterplum posted...

I didnt realize Mzero was playing which probably isnt a good sign

Yeah it is probably a bad sign you didn't realize he replaced in.

I can understand targetting inactives when all else is equal. It will put more pressure on people to be active and it's generally a good thing. But it's also an easy way to appear like you yourself are doing something and so I'm not crazy about Corrik's focus on plum, particularly when he was far from the only inactive person at this point. So even putting aside the fact that plum is a confirmed town, I feel like this was an "easy" thing for Corrik to have spent effort on day 1, especially since there were people actually doing things that were worth being called out for more than your run of the mill inactivity.
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yeah thanks for topic but contribute now please
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...[D1, T2, P013]

Tony- Tony and col zach are on opposite sides and it really showed in the banter and that I believe that zach is the one who is town so that would leave Tony as the scumm

I'm going to ignore for the second that you said Tony and Col ARE on opposite sides. A definitive term ARE on opposites sides instead of SEEM TO BE on opposite sides.

Setting that aside, this is something I really think you need to explain more. How does the "banter" prove they are on opposide sides. Banter by its nature is something that is back and forth, and if one of them is town they don't whether or not the other is on their side or not so it's not something that could come across for their half of the conversation. The most you could generally make based on an interaction between two people is say "this makes it seem like these two people are not scum together". You seem to be deriving something else entirely from their interaction and I really don't see how you are getting to those conclusions.

Now back to that other thing, what the HELL do you mean they "ARE" on opposite sides. I didn't notice this previous to this read through and I do not like it one bit. Right now I would not be the slightest surprised if Sultan is scum with one of Tony and ColZach. And since I'm believing in Tony (based on his Bzzt post) I'm looking at Sultan/Zach scummates right now.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...[D1, T2, P022]

You know if you were paying close attention you'd see that I do have a few in my town pile...!

I actually agree though - I have not liked how so much suspicion has fallen on Alakazam and Sultan early on because it feels mostly (FD calm down) lazy.

I still don't understand this. I see someone behaving erratically and doing things that town should not do. Why should I stand down? If he wan't to not attract the kind of negative attention that I'm going to bring his way then maybe he needs to level up his town play, if that's even what this is.

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Ashethan posted...[D1, T2, P030]

People keep saying Red's different, but I don't see it. He was kind of playful last game if I remember correctly.

Saying things like:

red13n
06/26/18 2:23:39 PM
72
we just lynch shad immediately upon return, of course.

red13n
06/26/18 4:28:50 PM
120
are you saying you are a tree stump?

Those seem pretty playful to me.

I like this post from Ashe and the effort that was taken to support the conclusion. In this instance I don't agree that Blade Mafia red was being as playful as he has been this game, but I can appreciate the point that playful red is not completely unique to this game.

I believe Ashe is also the one who provides the fluffy Tony iso, so gold star for that as well.

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Alakazamtrainer posted...[D1, T2, P043]

5tarscream posted...

I dont think Sultan has the experience to go after Tony on the back of you as the first scum vote on town.
I think he was simply trying to divert attention away from Zam AND he wanted to get some attention on Ashe and Tony was already leading that way.
I guess my read from that is Sultan and Zam scum. Ashe and Tony town.

Yeah... No I semi claimed already

How is that an appropriate response to 5tar's post? How does you claiming vanilla affect how likely you are to be scum? That's like the number one thing that scum claims.
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Leafeon13N posted...[D1, T2, P048]

The fact that fd doesnt catch this as an immediate joke bothers the heck out of me. (i was very clearly making fun of the recent day 1s).

Except...that's not how all recent day 1's have gone down?

On day 1 prof had 9 votes and chris had 7 votes. Neither was a new player and both were scum. I mean we did sort of revert to that with this game, but with a very recent example of that not happening I couldn't just assume you were joking, and it doesn't make the joke not in poor taste.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...[D1, T2, P063]

Ah, you didn't get it - but that's alright.

The best thing you can do is to ask questions and challenge people on their opinions. You will note I have asked for perspective several times and that is because it makes people take stances. Stances which can be used for or against them as the game continues, depending on their answers.

This always always always bears repeating.

As town you should not be afraid to say what you think about people and you should not be concerned that you are going to be wrong sometimes, but one of the hardest things for scum to do is to maintain an indistinguishable and unshakeable town perspective throughout the entire game. The more questions they are asked the more chances there are that they make a mistake, or say too much, or have to make a difficult decision about publicly siding with or against a scummate or someone they know is town.

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red13n posted...

Hi FD you missed a lot.

Yes, I ended up getting a lot of much needed sleep.

ScareChan posted...

yeah thanks for topic but contribute now please

Umm, okay? I don't need you to tell me how to play.
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I wasnt expecting you to have posts ready, please continue
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FakeAccount3000 posted...

I'm really concerned if FD or Meow (blade) were scum though. It's because I don't think they are and because they have been consistently reasonable. Except to Alakazam who honestly, I don't know if he's just as bad at it as I am or scum like they say.

What does "double votals" mean? Is there being more votes than expected or something about how there was nearly a tie at the lynch?

Also oops at quoting Matt Ryan, I didn't mean to do that, I'm not sure how that got in there.

Didn't plum barely do anything day 1? It seems weird to go for someone like that to me. Wouldn't it make more sense to kill someone helpful? Tony, how would killing Plum cause extra confusion?

Is it reasonable for someone who is so green and new to the game to question the kill in this way as town? Not sure on this one
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Sultan or Fake or any other new playr I am missing

if you are a role called MILLER claim it right way thank you
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FakeAccount3000 posted...

SK doesn't mean Scum Kill does it? I was thinking it did at first but I'm hearing it mentioned as something else.

I feel he is riding the new thing here. All I have seen is him asking questions
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Zach had a recent town game, right?

He is so rigide he wont let go of his blade read
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FakeAccount3000 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Possibly, but also Nana wasn't in the catbird's seat for long was he?

I don't know what a catbird is.

I dont even know what basic powers like cop do. I figured they would have just been able to arrest someone overnight but apparently not.

I realize there is some leeway in specific game rules but is there some sort of general powers and roles guideline sheet thats not against the rules to talk about or link to? I was hoping for one when the game started tbh.

As for catbird seat it probably means the one who was gong to be lynched.

I still dont know what SK means though

This seems pretty fabricaed to me now. Wasnt he supplied with alink to mafia scum or something to see basic roles?
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FakeAccount3000 posted...[D1, T2, P122]

Actually, I was trying to play the ask questions game. But sure, Ill vote for you.

##NANAHARA217

Im as serious as I need to be since youre doubling down on me with no proof of any kind.

Were you trying to play the questions game? Because I don't see any questions.

I see these:

FakeAccount3000 posted...

Theres nothing youve done to convince me youre town. Convince me. Clearly youve been reading.

FakeAccount3000 posted...

Its also telling the only times you show up are to talk about me.

Even if you take this back to the previous page you get these:

FakeAccount3000 posted...

Doom, how do you feel about Nana?

FakeAccount3000 posted...

Then he deflects the conversation by "accidentally" posting about basketball and only starts cornering me again after I'm alone because I made a newbie mistake and deleted a post. Is this a coincidence?

If voting me was just testing the waters, why is he just letting it ride? Has he just not had time to come back yet?

And those posts contain question makes, yes, but you are questioning other people ABOUT nana. You are not questioning nana.

And yes getting other people's stances are important too, but it's an odd line of attack against nana to say "convince me you are town" and "I was playing the question game" when you... didn't ask nana any questions.

Not a great look for Fake in this Fake/Nana interaction.

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Alakazamtrainer posted...[D1, T2, P166]

Scummoning happen twice is.... concerning

Corrik posted...[D1, T2, P167]

##unvote:
##vote: Forceful

This was it? This was why corrik ended on me day 1? Because I showed up to post before work at the same time i'd shown up to post before work the previous day?

Day still had 5 hours left and i'm not sure when corrik stopped being around, but that's a poor reason to leave a day-ending vote.

And as red said, my posting habits do not change regardless of alignment. If I have time, I'm using it to post, when I don't have time, I don't.
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well I read from 2.6 to where I came into the game. I probably wont have time to read the early part ofgame but I will try and I will likely ne busy tomorrow for agood chunk, we'll see whats up
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...[D1, T2, P185]

Force ful dragon

Fd ffd same thing

I will end you.

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FakeAccount3000 posted...[D1, T2, P177]

Im aware its a thing you guys have been talking about. Someone is using an old game board for mafia discussion or something I assume?

Honestly this post for me starts to cross into the "intentionally oblivious territory" ane makes me suspicious. It's almost like Fake is trying to hard to not understand the concept of a scum board to the point of "I'll make a post that implies that I think the scum board is on a random dead board and it will look like i think that because I'm new and don't realize different websides are used for that kind of thing".

This particular post just sits funny to me.

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red13n posted...[D1, T2, P180]

nana has been...inactive.

This post came at an odd time considering Nana was in the middle of a very active and very visible back and forth with Fake.

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Nanahara715 posted...[D1, T2, P190]

FakeAccount3000 posted...

How is asking you a question about your behavior not questioning your behavior?

Are you fucking high? He asked for the reasoning for my vote and I gave it to him.

When you posted about me, no one was "questioning Nana", so it looks like you were looking for approval to try to train on me.

DoomTheGyarados posted...[D1, T2, P194]

Red, of course it is fake anger. he's angry at fake.

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I don't like Nana going so hard here (seriously this is just absurd at this point) and Tony's fluff problem was worse than I even realized.

Honestly going through this exchange I feel myself agreeing with Nana. Fake was not questioning nana, but fake did seem to be probing other people about nana as though he needed more justification before he felt safe enough to drop a vote.

I think in nana's shoes I'd be going off as well. BUUUT with that said...

Leafeon13N posted...[D1, T2, P197]

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Nana is that fake anger. That seems awfully angry. Unnecessarily so.

I don't fake anger, but that isn't to say I don't get angry as both Town and scum. I get accused a lot of "faking anger" though.

Why not just say you are angry town here instead of the ambiguous explanation.

Yeahh... When you are mad you don't explain how your madness does or does not correlate to your scum play. You continue to smash keys in your rage like the justifiably pissed off town you are.
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DREAM
Red, Chris, Blade, Corrik

Probable town
Zam, Ashe, Tony, Sultan

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MZero

proable scum
Zach, FD, Fake, PJ

that bottom scum team actually seems kind of real and throw in one DREAM and you've got a team
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Scare, I am not scum.

I am going to be very curious to see why you think that I am when I get to your replacing in.

And I just checked to see who you replaced and it was nana, interesting. Your slot isn't looking so hot so far :/
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tag
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FakeAccount3000 posted...[D1, T2, P202]

Nana have you at least considered the possibility Im someone who has never played mafia before so Im not going over it as closely as you.

Look at it this way: most of your rebuttals to me have been that you think Im. Or even paying attention, you said what a couple times and insinuated I made no sense.

How is it Im borderline incoherent in my defense and also using secret strategy message boards and know far too much for a newbie? These are incompatible ideas.

they are not incompatible ideas because it's very easy to pretend that you don't know what something is. It is almost easier to believe that you would be pretending to not know at this point than that you would still not be understanding the fundamental concept of a scum board.

Honestly neither Fake or Nana are looking good to me through this now. Though nana's is mostly relating to the post about how being mad isn't a scum tell.

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masterplum posted...[D1, T2, P222]

My read is that FD is scum and is flustered because town is randomly attacking him for a hilariously asinine non-tell

I honestly wish plum was still alive because I am incredibly curious to know where the word "flustered" came from.

I am not currently flustered.
I was not previously flustered.

I don't feel like I'm in a position where I need to explain myself for any reason. I am putting as much time as I have to the best use I can put it towards the game. It is a baffling take.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...[D1, T2, P247]

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Maybe I was just too pleased with the fluff that he was saying that I didn't recognize it for what it was, But the iso from Ashe on page 3 is actually pretty convincing. That's a whole lot of nothing in those 21 posts.

As much and more than 75% of the game, but let's go with that.

Whataboutism.

You can't defend your posts being fluffy by saying other people are doing it too. That isn't a defense. If anything it's an admission of guilt.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...[D1, T2, P260]

I watched a lot of Tiny Toons as a kid, and I BARELY remember Lil Sneezer, so I dunno.

That sounds like a you-problem then. It was a pretty dang obvious indicator. Maybe you should have made an offhand remark about how you have been having really bad allergies in real life or something more obscure.

Also you made a point to say you always leave a hint to your flavor, but what do you do when you are scum? Wouldn't you also leave a hint to the flavor that you intend to fake? Or is that something you literally only do as town and as scum you have a post that is damningly devoid of a hint? That doesn't sound very smart.

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Meow1000 posted...[D1, T2, P270]

Oh Chris hot take on Plum calling FD scum for being "flustered" because you probably know the guy better than I do

DoomTheGyarados posted...[D1, T2, P271]

Plum isn't always the best at reading people but FD getting pissy as town and going off on people was a highlight, from scum perspective, of Phoenix Wright mafia. Not sure which player you wanted to ask about but FD being pissy is a town thing for him (until I see hm fake it as scum anyway) and null for plum afaik

This baffles me as much as plum saying it to begin with.

At what point have I given the appearance of being flustered?

1) Zam said and did stupid things.

2) I pointed them out and voted him.

3) He said more stupid things.

4) I said why they were stupid.

5) ???

6) Flustered?

Yeah I'm a bit annoyed at everyone else for letting zam be literally the worst with zero consequences because maybe he's just a dumb town. Or maybe, when someone does things that only scum should ever do, we should vote that person.

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Meow1000 posted...[D1, T2, P329]

ColZach posted...

This day 1 is terrible. Scum has town running in circles and Im just pissed off now.

Is it 1 hour and 20 until deadline or two 20?

That was day 1 in Blade Mafia 5. Hell, that was the entire game.

But this suggests you have a scum list. Chris alone can't be the "scum has town running in circles".

So let's hear it.

I agree that nana should have been doing more at this point, but I disagree that the 'scum has town running in circles' line is indicative of a scumlist existing.

You don't have to know who scum is to see when town is lacking focus and is going in several different directions. And sure, it could be town pulling itself in different direction, but even then it's scum that is allowing that to happen.

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Meow1000 posted...[D1, T2, P335]

Oh and yes, it does. To think scum has town running in circles, it means you at the very least think the majority of highest posters are scum.

This is...actually a very good counterpoint to what I just said.

But even so I think you could maintain that scum is behind the lack of focus even if they are not the ones posting the most.

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ColZach posted...[D1, T2, P350]

I swear to Bugs Bunny

Watch your tongue, you leave the big guy outta this.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...[D1, T2, P380]

I'm debating on to drop the vote, but, I'm on FD because he's so focused on me that he isn't even looking at others.

This is just factually incorrect. I covered a lot of ground in those walls, just as I'm covering a lot of ground now. You got quoted more than most because of the terrrrrrrrible things that you were doing. The fact that you don't see this is incomprehensible to me.

And the rest of this post because why not.

Alakazamtrainer posted...[D1, T2, P380]

However my random thoughts

The emoji duo: annoying but I think both are town.

Nana: I'm leaning scum only for the reason he's inactive and being pointed about little things

Zach also leaning scum, but really it's more of a gut.

I'll be on and off till eod

Look at this shit.

Like really look at this shitty end of day post. He has presumably been reading along or at least skimming and presumably has the capacity to use his brain to think thoughts and THIS is all he can come up with for his lasting impression for the final hour(ish) of day 1?

He literally doesn't even realize who "The Emoji Duo" is that he is claiming to seem town because he goes on to call Zach scum two lines later. He is literally just calling them town because they spammed emojis, without even committing to memory the names of the users that he is claiming to be town?

THIS is not the kind of content that someone who is town provides. This is the fake content that someone says to appear like they are participating.

...and of course it is followed by people justifying and handwaving zam's incompetence.

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Meow1000 posted...[D1, T3, P015]

There's zero chance I'm getting off of him if he can't answer my questions because as far as I'm concerned he's done nothing but prove he's been here but not actually reading the topic.

The Nana vote was also awful and contextless.

This bit right here resonates. When i first saw that it was difficult to believe he actually flipped town. Even something as simple as a "I'm here, what's this now about lynching me" or "I'm town and Naha might not be so i have to preserve myself" would have been better than nothing. But all the factors together put some really terrible optics on 5tar's arrive

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I'll be watching HGG matches (Hearthstone Global Games) and grabbing some grub while I proceed, but I'm into day 3 now and will hopefully not pass out like last night. I feel like there was some pretty good stuff to look at from day 1 even though I had already skimmed those bits.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik posted...[D1, T1, P448]
So does sultan just have a bad way with words? I feel like almost every post I could be like... What does that mean...

Ironically you picked a very poor way to express that thought.

And I think the issue with Sultan's word choice isn't that you don't know what it means, but that the more obvious meanings paint him in a very negative light. Such as him saying Chris could be useful to "keep around".

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...[D1, T1, P453]
MZero11 posted...
It is, but you implied you either A) have enough leverage to lynch him when he has like no votes or suspicion on him or B) you're scum

Or C) you are town but have a killing power

So you are saying i could be anything good job detective you cracked the case lol

That's not "anything" though. And it's really just B or C because you clearly don't have A which doesn't leave a lot of room for you to phrasing that from a town perspective.

I have a lot of catching up to do here because apparently you guys don't sleep or you have jobs you can look at your phone all day or whatever.

But I already addressed this with Mzero. He miss read what I was talking about with Chris I never said I have enough of a case to lynch chris what i meant by the Chris statement was if chris Is my ally he is someone good to have around but if Chris isn't my ally i put a target on my back. Chris being a smart player and some one who gets information out of other players is useful even if we aren't on the same side it could be good to have around because I'm not the best at getting that kind of information out of people but if Chris isn't on my side I'm screwed because if he stays around long enough I'm gone because I put trust into someone on the other side..

Does that make sense?

And Fd you are looking way to far into my miss wording because you obviously understood what I was talking about with the whole zach Tony thing that I was assuming they are on opposite sides. Okay saying they are on opposite sides might have been miss wordings it but I continued my assumption..

You are trying to use some kind of scare tactic on me or something but your points on me are miss wording and nothing else.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...[D1, T2, P185]
Force ful dragon

Fd ffd same thing

I will end you.

So let me use the Mzero statement here so
A. You have a big enough case to lynch me
B you are scum
C. You are town power with a killing power

But you dont have A so what are you B or C
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I still think Forceful is scum.
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So my thoughts on the red thing. Red is avoiding the question of who he thinks the big fish in the scum pond are. Why not give an answer to that like hey I think it's so and so because blank so why wouldn't you want to point that out to be like hey lynch this person they are the scum lord! He is also saying inactives are hiding I'm not really sure who he would be talking about.

So red who are these scum you are talking about? Who's the big fish and who is hiding?

Or red are you the Scum lord?! Are you calling all the shots?
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Sultan, why don't you tell me 5 people that are scum.
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Well my possible scum list right now

Tony
Forceful
Red
Scare
Zam?

Last one is mostly because how freaking weird Zam is
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well my possible scum list right now

Tony
Forceful
Red
Scare
Zam?

Last one is mostly because how freaking weird Zam is

Okay. Now reasons for those 5.
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Though I'm only like 75% of the way caught up
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Tony and Zach are still a toss up but since I'm still leaning hard on Scare Tony makes more sense unless I was right on the zach and scare being a scum v scum to get attention off of the Scum power Scare.

Tony- Tony has a very weak claim of little sneezer seems like hey let me just throw a random tiny toon call it vanilla and i will look town. But the rest of Tony's actions haven't looked town it seems as if the little sneezer claim came off as fake because Tony continues to just play the anyone but me game and that seems scummy.

Forceful- well forceful is making a lot of weak arguments twords people and pointing out some things that have been explained like my thoughts on Chris and my other miss wording that he clearly understood. Forceful is also another guy who has been acting like a power. I already sort of said my thoughts on him so I'll leave this breif.

Red- red is also playing the let's come in and say something but not elaborate on it but some of the stuff he posted it's like I think this but they runs away with no explanation which was pointed out by a few people.

Scare- though scare has replaced Nana. Nana really dug that spot into a huge hole and I've explained that a few times nana kept hiding and refusing to answer questions so I think scare comes in and starts playing the hey guys leave me alone card. He picks a fight with zach out of mid air.. kind of odd so going back to the if its zach and not Tony scare is definitely the power house of scum. But I'm also still weary on Scare because he has been throwing bombs at anyone who says his name so he is playing scared.

Zam- like I said Zam has been playing really odd I dont know if I'm reading him wrong but the claim of Montana max seems odd. Either he is really telling the truth and is vanilla town Montana Max (kind of hard to believe) which if is true that's really funny and kudos to Eaed for doing that.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Nana really dug that spot into a huge hole

Weird way to put that
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Corrik posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Nana really dug that spot into a huge hole

Weird way to put that

You know what I mean though? Or do I need to explain
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Damnit FD it's too early in the morning I defocused at like the 5th or 6th wall
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Ok yeah I probably absorbed like 10% of what FD said
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You guys were busy last night...

Here are the votals:
Votals
[2] Nana/Scare - (Corrik), Sultan, ColZach
[2] Zach - (Scare), Mzero11, Zam
[1] Chris - Corrik
[1] FD - Scare
[1] pjbasis - (Scare), PJ
[0] MZero - (Nana)
[0] Tony - (ColZach)
[0] Sultan - (Nana)
[0] Corrik - (Chris)
[0] red - (Chris), (Scare)
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Has Pj posted at all during this day phase? Of so where?!
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eaedwards6400 posted...

[1] pjbasis - (Scare), PJ

Wait what
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FD reads as town to me this morning given his exposition posts.

eaedwards6400 posted...

1] pjbasis - (Scare), PJ

Aw yeah
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Has Pj posted at all during this day phase? Of so where?!

He has

I remember him doing one thing worthy of some kind of comment
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Fixed
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Corrik - I'll claim when more people think I should.

Not sure if ColZach is stubborn scum, trying to remain consistent. Or stubborn town thinking everyone after him is scum still. I still would like an answer as to why he thinks Scum Zam votes for fellow Scum Nana/Scare at end of day like he did.

Of the big-name players, Red probably concerns me the most at the moment. He keeps pushing this idea that it wasn't town/town/town at the end of day yesterday, as if it's inconceivable that all three lynches were town lynches. Here's the post:

red13n posted...

Also Scare I would love to see your perspective on that end of day yesterday. Because you are the one person who would know for certain it was town/town with a third splinter(And I still dont think it was town/town/town).

Why couldn't it be town/town/town? I mean it seems to me he's kind of setting up my mislynch, and then go "Oops. Still don't think it was town/town/town day 1. Sorry, Scare." At least if Scare is town.

He also says town was ripe for the picking:

red13n posted...

And again, part of it is meta, but I feel like scum wasn't particularly interested in bussing day 1. Mainly because of how late those lynches actually went down(And how few people were active at deadline), town was pretty ripe for the picking.

In which case how is that still not true when I'm also town? 3 town lynches (or even 4 if you count Tony if he's town too) and scum could do whatever they wanted. It allows them to hide. My lynch being the third viable lynch means nothing for my alignment.

Then it also feels (contrary to what Corrik says) more like he's trying to out town protection roles with this whole "Plum was an SK kill" thing. "Gee what happened to the extra kill that scum may or may not have had? Surely someone can explain this!"

And I honestly am not sure he's legitimately scum hunting here. Yesterday was day 1, so I gave it a pass that he found me 'different' from my last game. I mean it was day 1, and I'm pretty different on day 1 because I hate day 1. Though I don't really think we've played enough that he knows how I play. I mean he read my thoughts toward end of game last game, but that's after the first scum flips, and there's way more to discuss than "Who's in this game? And who's still posting?" He's thrown some general suspicion toward Blade and Chris, but feels my lynch is the 'safe' one. (Or rather he said I was the safe target).

I mean I get his logic--scum's unlikely to bus on day 1 unless they absolutely need to. But... I don't see where that makes it likely one of the top lynches were Scum? They could just as well all be town.
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K day ends in 12 hours let's pressure Pj

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ScareChan posted...

This seems pretty fabricaed to me now. Wasnt he supplied with alink to mafia scum or something to see basic roles?

Even if he was, he might not pick up on Serial Killer = SK. Or he might've not read that far yet.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Also you made a point to say you always leave a hint to your flavor, but what do you do when you are scum? Wouldn't you also leave a hint to the flavor that you intend to fake? Or is that something you literally only do as town and as scum you have a post that is damningly devoid of a hint? That doesn't sound very smart.

I've seen people drop flavor hints early. I remember Nana doing it in GTAV Mafia, though I don't think most of that game even knew the flavor very well. (I was kinda surprised when he didn't this game especially after claiming vanilla, but I don't think it means anything). I do think Sneezer early like that limits his possibilities of claiming, though I guess he could've always said "What? No! I wasn't claiming little sneezer. I don't even know who that is!" But then we'd probably lynch him.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

...and of course it is followed by people justifying and handwaving zam's incompetence.

Well it is Zam. Unfortunately, I don't' think it's alignment indicative. If it were anyone else, they'd probably get lynched hard.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

This bit right here resonates. When i first saw that it was difficult to believe he actually flipped town. Even something as simple as a "I'm here, what's this now about lynching me" or "I'm town and Naha might not be so i have to preserve myself" would have been better than nothing. But all the factors together put some really terrible optics on 5tar's arrive

I actually felt 5tar was town when he did that (which is why I didn't swap from Nana/Scare to him). Of course, I know I'm town so I knew that he wasn't coming in as scum to save me (and I also remembered that he leaned town on me/nana). So I can see Chris and Blade's logic there.
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All of PJ's day 2 posts:

pjbasis posted...

I would have unvoted if I was around but I got called to make some deliveries.

Fairly generic comment. Kind of saying "Not my fault power got lynched, I was busy." I mean if he's town, it's obviously true. But slightly scummy to say "Aww man, sorry I started that power lynch."

pjbasis posted...

From this topic FD and Tony have pinged my town radar pretty strongly.

Town read on two people, but without much context.

pjbasis posted...

Basically this. There's a natural or organic sense to his inconsistencies as town. When he's scum it's really easy to see the seams.

Town read on Zam, with a bit more context.

pjbasis posted...

I don't see how in Day 1 the scum team would need to sow confusion after a mislynch.

Talking about the death after the mislynch.

pjbasis posted...

It's been a long time since I've seen that

I'll have to go back and see what this was even in reference to. I'm thinking it was "Nala is purring" by blade.

Yeah, I don't even have to worry about fitting them all into one post. That's... pretty stark lack of content from pj today, with roughly 12 hours left in day.
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I was pretty clearly the first to bring up the Lynch, Pj was just the one to thoughtlessly hop on

I mean like..
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ScareChan posted...

Meow1000 posted...

It's 3-3 between Nana and Ashe.

k that means it's time to b8 special 5tarscream

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Man poor 5tarscream, I liked a post from him earlier. Then he too vanished.

Why are people so inactive

yeesh

Something about the way I put it still feels better humorous to me
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I wrote rather not better wtf phone
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And man Pj is even more inactive today than I remembered
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