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Bass_X0
03/26/18 5:49:17 PM
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Not me. I'm not that.

Just wondering if such a thing exists.

"Yeah, I believe in God, Jesus and everything in the bible! Still not worshipping them or converting to Christianity!"
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SageHarpuia
03/26/18 5:51:12 PM
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James 2:19

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
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MorningRose
03/26/18 5:51:34 PM
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 5:51:57 PM
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I believe god exists

YHVH is a scourge upon the entire human race and needs to be eradicated and worship of him heavily restricted
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TheGoldenEel
03/26/18 5:52:42 PM
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Isnt that basically satanism
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SageHarpuia
03/26/18 5:52:47 PM
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Based gunplagirl
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DirkDiggles
03/26/18 5:52:50 PM
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lilORANG
03/26/18 5:53:08 PM
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CruorComa
03/26/18 5:54:44 PM
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Theological Satanism and Luciferianism
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Thrillwell
03/26/18 5:55:03 PM
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this is the kind of topic that will bring in the people who shouldn't talk much about the subject

atheists are just a bad day away from loving god
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Thrillwell
03/26/18 5:56:41 PM
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I bet Satan sitting in Hell like... omg here comes victim shaming.
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LordMarshal
03/26/18 5:57:42 PM
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I think everyone knows religions made up. Its just rude to outwardly accept it.
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SageHarpuia
03/26/18 6:00:05 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
I think everyone knows religions made up. Its just rude to outwardly accept it.

Stubborn denial at its finest
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Thrillwell
03/26/18 6:00:30 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
I think everyone knows religions made up. Its just rude to outwardly accept it.


God is everywhere.
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SageHarpuia
03/26/18 6:01:02 PM
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Do you really think people become willing martyrs for the sake of not being rude?
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Tyranthraxus
03/26/18 6:01:15 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Not me. I'm not that.

Just wondering if such a thing exists.

"Yeah, I believe in God, Jesus and everything in the bible! Still not worshipping them or converting to Christianity!"

"Fool" is the christian word for that, as defined by Jesus.
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LordMarshal
03/26/18 6:04:41 PM
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Another day of there literally being no God. More stretched rationalizations to try to entertain the idea he might exist or you might get to see your lost loved ones someday.

You know, Monday.
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Dyinglegacy
03/26/18 6:11:57 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
YHVH is a scourge upon the entire human race and needs to be eradicated and worship of him heavily restricted


lol

So, like, should churches be banned, and those who practice eradicated? Or their religious texts outlawed? Or people can worship, but they cannot approach anyone about their faith, and their worship must be done in a specific place at a specific time AND heavily monitored?

That sounds pretty hardcore.
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Ray-Ray
03/26/18 6:12:46 PM
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satanist
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Dyinglegacy
03/26/18 6:15:26 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
Another day of there literally being no God.


Are you saying that as a definitive statement, or more of an opinion? Use of the word literally gives me the impression that you know for certian no god exists, BUT... this is gamefaqs, and people love to use that word incorrectly. I do it myself.
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dameon_reaper
03/26/18 6:16:18 PM
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How does that make one a satanist?

That's like saying "I'm not a democrat and therefore I'm a Republican" or "I know Steve but i don't like him so I must like Dave"
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prince_leo
03/26/18 6:16:48 PM
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hollywood atheist?
y'know, the one who blames their childs death on god or something and eventually comes around to accept jesus
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Kaname_Madoka
03/26/18 6:16:59 PM
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Kazi1212
03/26/18 6:17:10 PM
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Satanist?
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Damn_Underscore
03/26/18 6:26:17 PM
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 6:28:14 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
gunplagirl posted...
YHVH is a scourge upon the entire human race and needs to be eradicated and worship of him heavily restricted


lol

So, like, should churches be banned, and those who practice eradicated? Or their religious texts outlawed? Or people can worship, but they cannot approach anyone about their faith, and their worship must be done in a specific place at a specific time AND heavily monitored?

That sounds pretty hardcore.

rRzXloU


lol

But yeah, ban people from fucking going door to door to complete strangers houses trying to recruit them to their death cult.

Also maybe make it so those fuckers who hand out those comics from the 1970s showing people melting in fire can't do it during hours where kids are riding to school.

Also ban running on a religious platform as per seperation of church and state.
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LastTomorrow
03/26/18 6:28:41 PM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
gunplagirl posted...
YHVH is a scourge upon the entire human race and needs to be eradicated and worship of him heavily restricted


lol

So, like, should churches be banned, and those who practice eradicated? Or their religious texts outlawed? Or people can worship, but they cannot approach anyone about their faith, and their worship must be done in a specific place at a specific time AND heavily monitored?

That sounds pretty hardcore.


How would you do that to omniscient being? All those anime and cartoons and that prick Zeus is a liar
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Dyinglegacy
03/26/18 6:32:35 PM
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 6:32:46 PM
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LastTomorrow posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
gunplagirl posted...
YHVH is a scourge upon the entire human race and needs to be eradicated and worship of him heavily restricted


lol

So, like, should churches be banned, and those who practice eradicated? Or their religious texts outlawed? Or people can worship, but they cannot approach anyone about their faith, and their worship must be done in a specific place at a specific time AND heavily monitored?

That sounds pretty hardcore.


How would you do that to omniscient being? All those anime and cartoons and that prick Zeus is a liar


YHVH is a variety of greater beings whose power stems from the faith behind them. It's why he rules with fear, "join me or go to hell and be punished" even if that penalty is because of sins he supposedly knew we'd commit

It's also beneficial that his followers banned worship of "heathen" gods whose powers generally stem from nature.

So.
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HotMaladorianAI
03/26/18 6:41:22 PM
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By definition I believe Satanists are just anti-Christian in a lot of ways so yes, they would fit the topic title. They acknowledge God and the devil and just explicitly side with the devil. And Muslims do consider Jesus a prophet in the vein of Moses...but not as a son of God or an embodiment of God. Not sure how Allah/Yahweh stack up though.
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LastTomorrow
03/26/18 8:20:51 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
LastTomorrow posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
gunplagirl posted...
YHVH is a scourge upon the entire human race and needs to be eradicated and worship of him heavily restricted


lol

So, like, should churches be banned, and those who practice eradicated? Or their religious texts outlawed? Or people can worship, but they cannot approach anyone about their faith, and their worship must be done in a specific place at a specific time AND heavily monitored?

That sounds pretty hardcore.


How would you do that to omniscient being? All those anime and cartoons and that prick Zeus is a liar


YHVH is a variety of greater beings whose power stems from the faith behind them. It's why he rules with fear, "join me or go to hell and be punished" even if that penalty is because of sins he supposedly knew we'd commit

It's also beneficial that his followers banned worship of "heathen" gods whose powers generally stem from nature.

So.

So he loses power by people not worshipping him and they worship others giving them more power. That's not answer and you're take a risk with that

You're saying you think you know the solution. Losing faith makes him lose power. It may not be the way you think or you're think and hoping it's the way and think humanity is way better yet we see time and again people aren't better. If. It religion then greed and we'll soon die by that greed by us because earth is on a time limit by various things
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DarkDragon400
03/26/18 8:27:22 PM
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The term for someone who believes in gods but doesn't believe they are deserving of worship is misotheist.
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SageHarpuia
03/26/18 8:27:51 PM
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Gunplagirl proving once again that they know absolutely nothing about anything they talk about.
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 8:52:05 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Gunplagirl proving once again that they know absolutely nothing about anything they talk about.

You have your gods, I have mine

And get out of here with that "gunplagirl knows nothing" crap, it's pathetic and a cop-out. "You're wrong. I won't say what about or why or what the right answer is. But you're wrong." It's circular logic AT BEST.
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LastTomorrow
03/26/18 8:56:28 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Gunplagirl proving once again that they know absolutely nothing about anything they talk about.

You have your gods, I have mine

And get out of here with that "gunplagirl knows nothing" crap, it's pathetic and a cop-out. "You're wrong. I won't say what about or why or what the right answer is. But you're wrong." It's circular logic AT BEST.

So you're god is...
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Rathalos888
03/26/18 8:57:16 PM
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ITT: People that think Satanists believe in God.
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 9:01:15 PM
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LastTomorrow posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Gunplagirl proving once again that they know absolutely nothing about anything they talk about.

You have your gods, I have mine

And get out of here with that "gunplagirl knows nothing" crap, it's pathetic and a cop-out. "You're wrong. I won't say what about or why or what the right answer is. But you're wrong." It's circular logic AT BEST.

So you're god is...


You're

:l

The ones I worship primarily hail from the Norse pantheon but there's others I acknowledge
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 9:02:23 PM
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Rathalos888 posted...
ITT: People that think Satanists believe in God.

There's some branches that do

Most just think "hey, be awesome and you do you, buddy" without being set up around any deities or whatnot
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muchdran
03/26/18 9:02:43 PM
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MorningRose posted...
"Idiot"

What about Quran?
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muchdran
03/26/18 9:03:50 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Rathalos888 posted...
ITT: People that think Satanists believe in God.

There's some branches that do

Most just think "hey, be awesome and you do you, buddy" without being set up around any deities or whatnot

Antifa isn't a religion
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SageHarpuia
03/26/18 9:06:13 PM
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And get out of here with that "gunplagirl knows nothing" crap, it's pathetic and a cop-out. "You're wrong. I won't say what about or why or what the right answer is. But you're wrong." It's circular logic AT BEST.


Except that you are inherently wrong. YHWH is one single entity, the God worshipped by the Jews and Christians. To say that he sends people to Hell as punishment is looking at it backwards. Hell is simply the result of your own rejection of Christ, and you go there of your own volition. You don't bite the hand that feeds you and the expect to continue being fed.
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RoboLaserGandhi
03/26/18 9:07:48 PM
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...Satanist?
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FortuneCookie
03/26/18 9:10:18 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
I think everyone knows religions made up. Its just rude to outwardly accept it.


That's like someone saying there's no such thing as a conservative, only liberals who like to act contrarian.
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Tyranthraxus
03/26/18 9:10:59 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Rathalos888 posted...
ITT: People that think Satanists believe in God.

There's some branches that do

Most just think "hey, be awesome and you do you, buddy" without being set up around any deities or whatnot

No there aren't.

Levayan satanism is basically Atheism + stupid magical ritual shit.

Satanic Church is a secular atheist religion and doesn't believe in anything but their own moral code.

There is no significant organization of Satan worshippers unless you count edgy high school teens in mom's basement.
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 9:19:19 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
And get out of here with that "gunplagirl knows nothing" crap, it's pathetic and a cop-out. "You're wrong. I won't say what about or why or what the right answer is. But you're wrong." It's circular logic AT BEST.


Except that you are inherently wrong. YHWH is one single entity, the God worshipped by the Jews and Christians. To say that he sends people to Hell as punishment is looking at it backwards. Hell is simply the result of your own rejection of Christ, and you go there of your own volition. You don't bite the hand that feeds you and the expect to continue being fed.


I actively implore, nay, beseech the deity known as YHVH to eat my farts.

If he is omnipotent then they knew what would happen and yet still allowed it to happen

They can not be a just lord if they would punish all future generations for the sins of Adam and Eve. For that matter, YHVH tried to flood the world and kill all sinners once before. Including kids who had yet to commit any sins of their own volition, as he knew they would one day commit them. Sentencing innocents to death because of what they would one day do. And hell is no different. He supposedly knows one day everyone who will accept or deny him, before their parents were even conceived. Basically? It's playing with a stacked deck for a single hand. The outcome is fixed and regardless of if you raise, call or fold, you'll still lose or win.

Therefore we have to conclude that either free will is not possible as everything is predetermined/ acting along a set script, or that your YHVH lied about their powers. Regardless, they can suck my farts.

I'll give Jesus props though, I think we all need to smash tables and use whips on bankers. And not just in a fetishistic way.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
03/26/18 9:20:59 PM
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Yes... the FneeEEfnfnorflrBBBlglrG7scloorpnfNFn
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gunplagirl
03/26/18 9:21:08 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Rathalos888 posted...
ITT: People that think Satanists believe in God.

There's some branches that do

Most just think "hey, be awesome and you do you, buddy" without being set up around any deities or whatnot

No there aren't.

Levayan satanism is basically Atheism + stupid magical ritual shit.

Satanic Church is a secular atheist religion and doesn't believe in anything but their own moral code.

There is no significant organization of Satan worshippers unless you count edgy high school teens in mom's basement.


Them: nobody worships Satan
Me: except a few actually do
You: nobody does, oh but I guess a few do but they don't count

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SageHarpuia
03/26/18 9:21:12 PM
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You can expound upon that all you want, but building assumptions on false premises won't get you anywhere.
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